Jurgelaitis
@americanprogress.org
| Adult version of Magicjack?
Is there some clever Chinese entrepreneur who can build an ATA that is the size of a magicjack but that plugs into the router, and has an additional cable that plugs into a usb port for power?
That then connects to headquarters and registers you with vosp A and gives you a phone number?
If Dan can do it for $40, why can't a more respectable vendor do it for $40 + x?
They would have some good advertising hooks: no pc has to be left on; nothing is installed on your pc; uses the proven technology of sip; and you can trust vosp A, which has a solid record unlike some fly-by-night outfits. |
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voiplover
Premium
join:2004-05-28
Portsmouth, NH
 ·callwithus
·Axvoice
| Two more questions why you are at it?
1. Since my ATA has an ether net jack that I can plug my computer into to get internet, can I now cancel my DSL because my computer doesn't connect to the modem any more?
2. If they can send a man to the moon, how come we can't put ordinary metal in a micro wave? |
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dcm
join:2008-09-12
Pennsylvania
| reply to Jurgelaitis
said by Jurgelaitis :
has an additional cable that plugs into a usb port for power? said by Jurgelaitis :
no pc has to be left on; Umm ... don't you have to leave a PC on to get power from a USB port?
Yeah, you can get a USB adapter plug to plug into the wall, but I don't think that's what you meant. |
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Jurgelaitis
@ac.kr
| said by dcm  :Umm ... don't you have to leave a PC on to get power from a USB port? Yeah, you can get a USB adapter plug to plug into the wall, but I don't think that's what you meant. I forgot about that little detail. Well, either plug it into a wall socket or forget about it and let MJ rule the world. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| reply to Jurgelaitis
(Assuming this is serious) What are you talking about? Every ATA "plugs into the router", has an additional cable for power, and connects to a remote VoIP provider. What is the difference and/or advantage in your scenario, other than slightly smaller size and the unsustainable $20/year price point?
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Jurgelaitis
@blogomdet.com
| said by B :(Assuming this is serious) What are you talking about? Every ATA "plugs into the router", has an additional cable for power, and connects to a remote VoIP provider. What is the difference and/or advantage in your scenario, other than slightly smaller size and the unsustainable $20/year price point? What's the difference!? The difference is that the gizmo will automatically connect to headquarters when it is first plugged in and do whatever it is that magicjack does when you plug it in. After that, you have the usual beautiful ATA experience instead of the weird mj experience.
When grandad is starving because he is paying Bell $70/month for stuff he can get through voip for peanuts, and finally decides that the voip thing he heard about might be the ticket, he buys magicjack because it is a no-brainer to set up (apparently - I have never seen one).
Make this gizmo a no-brainer to set up, and the better sound and reliability, the lack of mj's sleaze, and the bells and whistles that mj does not have, will convince grandad to try it and allow him to put on weight.
Is it really that hard to build in a program that does the setup for you, mj style?
Anybody can figure out how to go to his callcentric panel and play around with the settings later, but you have to get him past the initial setup and get the magic dial tone. Once you have the buyer past the setup, you are home free. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| I still don't know what you are talking about. Every major VoIP company provides exactly the experience you are describing.
1. The company sends you a preconfigured ATA.
2. You attach it to your router. No configuration needed.
3. You attach a phone and start making phone calls.
That list includes everyone from Vonage to Packet8 to PhonePower to Viatalk to VoicePulse to Voipo etc. etc. etc.
No PC, no "weird mj experience", no sleaze...
I still don't see what you are asking for, other than perhaps a smaller sized ATA. The ones I've seen are plenty small enough for me.
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erikthebean
join:2007-06-25
Manchester, NH | reply to Jurgelaitis
Are you talking about an ATA that would be the same size of a magicjack??? And if anyone currently makes something that size??? |
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samarai
join:2009-07-06
Spring, TX | Patton Electronics has started shipping a micro ATA. |
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jurgelaitis
@privacyfoundation.de
| reply to B
said by B :I still don't know what you are talking about. Every major VoIP company provides exactly the experience you are describing.... That list includes everyone from Vonage to Packet8 to PhonePower to Viatalk to VoicePulse to Voipo etc. etc. etc. Oh.
I didn't know that. Please forget what I said. |
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mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
| reply to Jurgelaitis
said by Jurgelaitis :
Is there some clever Chinese entrepreneur who can build an ATA that is the size of a magicjack but that plugs into the router, and has an additional cable that plugs into a usb port for power? If you have a NAT/Firewall WiFi router with a built-in USB2 port and supported by OpenWRT, then you can plug an old and long discontinued VoiPBlaster to the USB port on the router to use as your ATA device. You will need to compile its driver from Fobbit along with an open SIP UA to install on your router to support this device. The only drawback that I can think of is you are limited to the built-in hard-coded G723.1 CoDec that no one knows how to disable it.
If you are a tech savvy and have friends who own some NAT/Firewall WiFi router with a built-in USB2 port and supported by OpenWRT and some of VoiPBlaster units to spare, then you can install the Fobbit directory server code on your router to serve them. This way, you can call each other for free.
I had done this using a computer back then. The only problem I had encountered using this approach is the call quality degraded substantially with packets lost. I believe this is due to the nature of a G723.1 CoDec.
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mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
| reply to voiplover
said by voiplover :2. If they can send a man to the moon, how come we can't put ordinary metal in a micro wave? Hmm ..., very interesting. I thought the whole inside case of a microwave is made from metal sheets. That said, I wonder what will happen if a metal plate placed inside a microwave and is well grounded to make connection to the metal case?  |
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
| reply to mazilo
said by mazilo :If you have a NAT/Firewall WiFi router with a built-in USB2 port and supported by OpenWRT, then you can plug an old and long discontinued VoiPBlaster to the USB port on the router to use as your ATA device. You will need to compile its driver from Fobbit along with an open SIP UA to install on your router to support this device. The only drawback that I can think of is you are limited to the built-in hard-coded G723.1 CoDec that no one knows how to disable it. Sounds perfect for grandad!  |
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Jurgelaitis
@blixtvik.se
| reply to mazilo
said by mazilo :If you have a NAT/Firewall WiFi router with a built-in USB2 port and supported by OpenWRT, then you can plug an old and long discontinued VoiPBlaster to the USB port on the router to use as your ATA device. You will need to compile its driver from Fobbit along with an open SIP UA to install on your router to support this device. Ah, to hell with it. I'm buying Ooma! |
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n1zuk
My wood is stacked
Premium
join:2001-10-24
South Burlington, VT
·Future Nine Corpor..
·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
| reply to mazilo
said by mazilo :said by voiplover :2. If they can send a man to the moon, how come we can't put ordinary metal in a micro wave? Hmm ..., very interesting. I thought the whole inside case of a microwave is made from metal sheets. That said, I wonder what will happen if a metal plate placed inside a microwave and is well grounded to make connection to the metal case? I don't know, but I remember watching David Letterman microwave some lightbulbs on the Late Show (both lightbulbs and oven from G.E., of course). I couldn't find a link for the clip, but this guy tried the same thing:
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I294xoqGcE
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pagemen
join:2008-12-28
planet earth
| reply to Jurgelaitis
There are too much good mysteries about USB, as if it's the cure for everything and works anywhere with a USB plug -- PC, router or even mobile phones. I once saw someone asked if this device will work with MagicJack dongle.
»cgi.ebay.com/4X-USB-A-Female-to-···upported |
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mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
| said by pagemen :There are too much good mysteries about USB, as if it's the cure for everything and works anywhere with a USB plug -- PC, router or even mobile phones. I once saw someone asked if this device will work with MagicJack dongle. » cgi.ebay.com/4X-USB-A-Female-to-···upported An interesting USB-to-RJ45 dongle. However, I don't think MJ USB device will work with this dongle mainly because an MJ USB device expects a Windows OS host to run (its own) SIP software to talk to its USB device.
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