 knightmbEverybody Lies
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Franklin, TN | No surprise, old site, meet the new (same) sites Given how many sites are similar (but with a different theme) to the site. It just being the most popular makes the biggest target, so really, nothing has changed.
Google is still here, the number torrent search engine as far as I'm concerned. 
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| said by knightmb:Given how many sites are similar (but with a different theme) to the site. It just being the most popular makes the biggest target, so really, nothing has changed. Google is still here, the number torrent search engine as far as I'm concerned. Exactly - after all this time and money no one has prevented a single user from pirating.
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said by knightmb:Given how many sites are similar (but with a different theme) to the site. It just being the most popular makes the biggest target, so really, nothing has changed. Something has changed. Grow large enough to be noticed and the MPAA & the RIAA will paint a big target on your back. If you plan on running one of these sites that will replace TPB, then you better hope you make a lot of money - to pay for all the lawyers you will need.
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:Grow large enough to be noticed and the MPAA & the RIAA will paint a big target on your back. Funny how that huge RICO target on the backs of the RIAA and MPAA has not caused the Feds to go after them. Money talks, especially in DC.
There is no honor among thieves, corporate or "pirate". The artists and actors still get screwed by both. |
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by knightmb:Given how many sites are similar (but with a different theme) to the site. It just being the most popular makes the biggest target, so really, nothing has changed. Something has changed. Grow large enough to be noticed and the MPAA & the RIAA will paint a big target on your back. If you plan on running one of these sites that will replace TPB, then you better hope you make a lot of money - to pay for all the lawyers you will need. How is that change? Napster anyone?
same show different day
Also, with at least 50% of people using DHT (unknowingly) expect all of TPB to live on for a very long time. |
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| said by DataRiker:By the way, the RIAA did not take down TPB. Then who did? Who pushed for their prosecution from behind the scenes? |
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2 edits | said by fAcEtIOUs:said by DataRiker:By the way, the RIAA did not take down TPB. Then who did? Who pushed for their prosecution from behind the scenes? NV -
doen't matter - the point is with so many DHT enabled on so many clients expect to see TPB live on for quite some time without any need for servers (well enormous static servers that is) |
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said by DataRiker:said by knightmb:Given how many sites are similar (but with a different theme) to the site. It just being the most popular makes the biggest target, so really, nothing has changed. Google is still here, the number torrent search engine as far as I'm concerned. Exactly - after all this time and money no one has prevented a single user from pirating. epic waste of time and money. Not really. Although the current torrents are mirrored, NEW torrents will be harder to add. The torrent tracker is still the weak link and OpenBitorrents.com is not going to be any less susceptible to takedown than TPB was. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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said by DataRiker:Also, with at least 50% of people using DHT (unknowingly) expect all of TPB to live on for a very long time. TPB disables DHT on their torrents. |
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| said by Matt:said by DataRiker:Also, with at least 50% of people using DHT (unknowingly) expect all of TPB to live on for a very long time. TPB disables DHT on their torrents. Yes, as do many private trackers, and guess what DHT still works. Just like ratio spoofing still works. |
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No, you're making the mistake of equating a technically possible solution with wide market penetration.
All that the owners are trying to do is to shut down and cripple the most popular, most visible, and easiest-to-use sites. This will stop 90% of the casual users from going the pirate route.
Just because it's technically possible to share pirated material doesn't mean that that techical solution has any significant usage or penetration.
All the owners really want to do is to raise the barrier of entry for the average user to become a pirate. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | reply to DataRiker
said by DataRiker:Yes, as do many private trackers, and guess what DHT still works. Just like ratio spoofing still works. I'd be curious to know how DHT works if it's disabled in the torrent? Just because you're logged into DHT, doesn't mean you're actively using it for every torrent. Your client can log into DHT, but if it's disabled for the torrent, you won't use DHT peers for that torrent.
Unless by associating it with ratio spoofing you mean you have to use a hacked client? If so, how many people do you think will run a hacked client or even know how to? |
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said by MyDogHsFleas:No, you're making the mistake of equating a technically possible solution with wide market penetration. All that the owners are trying to do is to shut down and cripple the most popular, most visible, and easiest-to-use sites. This will stop 90% of the casual users from going the pirate route. Just because it's technically possible to share pirated material doesn't mean that that techical solution has any significant usage or penetration. All the owners really want to do is to raise the barrier of entry for the average user to become a pirate. Bingo! Very well said. |
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A rational consumer will look at this as a tradeoff.
Pay $10 or $20 for a CD or DVD, or less than that to buy from iTunes....
vs. figure out where to go to start, download the app, start it, configure it, search for what you want, worry about whether it's really a virus, download it, and play it.
Now... iTunes and the like make the latter process dirt simple, reliable, well-known, and cheap. Whenever the owners see something springing up that approaches that level, they will react. They want the average consumer to say, "Screw it, this is too hard/dangerous, I'll just buy it." |
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said by Matt:said by DataRiker:Yes, as do many private trackers, and guess what DHT still works. Just like ratio spoofing still works. I'd be curious to know how DHT works if it's disabled in the torrent? Just because you're logged into DHT, doesn't mean you're actively using it for every torrent. Your client can log into DHT, but if it's disabled for the torrent, you won't use DHT peers for that torrent. Unless by associating it with ratio spoofing you mean you have to use a hacked client? If so, how many people do you think will run a hacked client or even know how to? Well to the last of my knowledge anyone with an older client of Utorrent that had enabled DHT would have it enabled on every torrent.
This allowed many to trade on pivate trackers without incurring ratio penalties.
As for TPB i can 100% assure you DHT is alive and kicking. |
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knightmbEverybody Lies
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Franklin, TN | reply to MyDogHsFleas
said by MyDogHsFleas:No, you're making the mistake of equating a technically possible solution with wide market penetration. All that the owners are trying to do is to shut down and cripple the most popular, most visible, and easiest-to-use sites. This will stop 90% of the casual users from going the pirate route. Just because it's technically possible to share pirated material doesn't mean that that techical solution has any significant usage or penetration. All the owners really want to do is to raise the barrier of entry for the average user to become a pirate. The piratebay was the easiest to use? All it had going for it was a search engine and torrent trackers, you still needed the right software to play movies, burn mp3 to CD, run programs (and hope a virus didn't lurk inside).
From an end user standpoint, it won't matter at all. I have friends that are half-way technical still don't know how to use the piratebay properly.
I think once people figured out that 'any torrent' = free stuff, the piratebay name became moot. Most of them just look in google, yahoo, bing, whatever now anyway because the pirate bay was too difficult for them to use.
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Franklin, TN | reply to MyDogHsFleas
said by MyDogHsFleas:A rational consumer will look at this as a tradeoff. Pay $10 or $20 for a CD or DVD, or less than that to buy from iTunes.... vs. figure out where to go to start, download the app, start it, configure it, search for what you want, worry about whether it's really a virus, download it, and play it. Now... iTunes and the like make the latter process dirt simple, reliable, well-known, and cheap. Whenever the owners see something springing up that approaches that level, they will react. They want the average consumer to say, "Screw it, this is too hard/dangerous, I'll just buy it." No need to, with google, yahoo, etc. isn't much more difficult to find the torrent than it was on the pirate bay. Yeah, they took down a big target, but so what. If the piratebay was the only place in the world to find stuff, then yeah, store a big one for corporate. But really, the end user isn't as helpless as you make them out to be. They know that in the infinite wisdom of the Internet, it only takes a few clicks to find it elsewhere.
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They will never stop the Pirates.
Boycott the RIAA, any label who signs with them, and any artist who signs with them.
Support local artists and independent labels and/or artists. |
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kudos:12 | said by gorehound:They will never stop the Pirates. Boycott the RIAA, any label who signs with them, and any artist who signs with them. Support local artists and independent labels and/or artists. While this is great in concept, local bands typically suck. There is a reason they are local. |
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| said by Matt:said by gorehound:Support local artists and independent labels and/or artists. While this is great in concept, local bands typically suck. There is a reason they are local. »www.ilovemetric.com/ |
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