inmate717
join:2009-07-06
Yuma, AZ
| How Much Do I really Need
Ok here goes. I am travelling into extremely uncharted waters here. I want to start providing wifi access to local rv parks how many customers/users can I possibly put onto each respective pipe before you notice a massive slowdown. I know all of the big ISP's oversell and I am just looking to find out what is a good ration. I also know that not every subscriber will be on at the same time and not all of them will be fully using each connection. my prices quotes I have are for the following pipes
10Mbps
20 Mbps
30 Mbps
45 Mbps
and
100Mbps all fiber dedicated internet access .
I plan on throttling each customer to around 1000 Kbps or about 1 Mbps both up and down. So there is my problem any suggestions besides run its not worth the headache? |
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mogooder
join:2002-11-26
Washougal, WA
| "how many customers/users can I possibly put onto each respective pipe before you notice a massive slowdown"
It doesn't matter, today you have no customers and no need for bandwidth, but in the future you will need to buy a scaleable bandwidth solution that can be increased to provide service to your clients. Now, the reason I say "It Doesn't Matter" is if you start with a 45 meg connection prior to your first client, the payment will eat you alive.
There are many decisions to be made, and things to be done, before you will ever need any bandwidth, focus on them. When you have a phased network design in place and functioning first phase, then you can make decisions on bandwidth, it just isn't the place to start.
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John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp | reply to inmate717
There are a lot of other factors other than the upstream pipe size that cause "slowdown"...
If you need something to plan with, I would suggest using the 10 Mbps pipe pricing.
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Inssomniak
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join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON | reply to inmate717
You will find you will get a lot of customers on 10mbps. |
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jesman
join:2008-12-28
| reply to inmate717
said by inmate717  :Ok here goes. I am travelling into extremely uncharted waters here. I want to start providing wifi access to local rv parks how many customers/users can I possibly put onto each respective pipe before you notice a massive slowdown. I know all of the big ISP's oversell and I am just looking to find out what is a good ration. I also know that not every subscriber will be on at the same time and not all of them will be fully using each connection. my prices quotes I have are for the following pipes 10Mbps 20 Mbps 30 Mbps 45 Mbps and 100Mbps all fiber dedicated internet access . I plan on throttling each customer to around 1000 Kbps or about 1 Mbps both up and down. So there is my problem any suggestions besides run its not worth the headache? man, you should check up the professional,
NYCwireless or Wiredtown(Previous WiFisalon).
They are experts in park deployment. |
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superdog
I Need A Drink
Premium,MVM
join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| reply to Inssomniak
said by Inssomniak :You will find you will get a lot of customers on 10mbps. Yeppers. Especially with a Netequalizer or M0n0wall box hooked to it.
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Killa200
Premium
join:2005-12-02
Spring City, TN | reply to inmate717
if you want an example, i have two ap's deployed in a mobile park... bout 20 - 30 clients.... on a t1. everyone seems happy. |
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viperm
Carpe Diem
Premium
join:2002-07-09
Winchester, CA | reply to inmate717
Killa what speed are you capping them at or are they wide open? |
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Killa200
Premium
join:2005-12-02
Spring City, TN
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1 edit | i am letting them run wide open (to be fair it is an older group mostly using this as a method of contacting family while they do contract work in the area nuclear plant, as this park is catering to them in specific). If traffic gets horrid, i will start with QOS, followed by speed caps.
::EDIT:: on a side note for those looking into back haul lines..... atm att is on my bad side. This park T1 connection and about 6 other separate dsl accounts in the area (prob more if not all connections in this area, but i had direct access to those 6) have been going through intermittent 1000ms+ latency spikes and inability at times to get traffic outside the city for the past 26 HOURS. It just started to clear up around lunch today. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to inmate717
Sounds like TWC offerings. Since it'll all be over their fiber, I'd start at 10Mbps and work your way up. 10Mbps is a decent slice of bandwidth if you're selling 1Mbps on it. Since you'll be getting a fiber circuit in anyway, it should be relatively simple to open up the port wider to 20+ Mbps as needed. Throw a NetEqualizer in there and you should be good to go. |
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charlesa920
Premium
join:2007-01-20
Sikeston, MO
| reply to inmate717
If you are planning on leaving your pipe wide open then I doubt if you will ever havve enough bandwidt. But if you shape each user (m0n0wall or similar) you can get 75 happy users @ 512kbps on a single DSL (able to play x-box live, stream youtube, email pictures, etc.) Downstream will be fine but your limiting factor will be the uploading.
starting with a DSL, even if you only get 35 customers before saturation, will allow easy scalability by bonding another DSL. |
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