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sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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Re: no crime here

It's a crime because it limits competition, which is in essence anti-competitive. Phone manufacturers don't have to compete with each other directly, and wireless carriers can lock in customers for multiple years without having to worry about the service and quality of their network just because they have a good phone (*cough* AT&T *cough*).

fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
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said by sonicmerlin:

It's a crime because it limits competition, which is in essence anti-competitive.
You CLEARLY do not know what "competition" is, based on that comment alone. The competition is that one carrier has asked for a phone for THEIR network which means THEY have something desirable over someone else.. THAT is called "competition".. there are OTHER handsets that you can make calls on.. there is NOTHING in the law that requires a handset maker to make their sets available to all networks.

When it comes to right/wrong and the law, there is "the law" and there is what everyone else "feels" things should be.. As imperfect as some laws are, I'll still live by the law over what people WANT things to be... any day!

Phone manufacturers don't have to compete with each other directly, and wireless carriers can lock in customers for multiple years without having to worry about the service and quality of their network just because they have a good phone (*cough* AT&T *cough*).
Again.. you're wrong. You don't HAVE to be locked into a carrier for any term.. YOU lock yourself into the carrier by taking the cheap phone offers.. pay full price and you're out anytime you want.

There is plenty of competition in cellular business.. While you may all it "crappy service" others may call it superior. Just becuase YOUR tower or set of towers gives you poor service doesn't mean towers down the street or in another city do.. the same goes from carrier to carrier.

.. and yea.. if you want the "good phone" then that is the part of the competition that you bought into.. personally, I like Sprints calling plans.. their phones aren't the greatest in my opinion.. while others MAY like their phone, such as the Palm Pre but say the rate plan they are required to have sucks..

.. it ALWAYS is more than a 2-way street.. competition is just fine. Just because someone doesn't like the phone, the plan, or a combination of both, available to them doesn't mean there is no competition.. it just means that they aren't pleasing everyone - and never will. This is OFTEN mistaken for "lack of choice".. and there is NOTHING that guarantees that everyone will have an option that fits their needs best..

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:1

You know, I could write a 1000 word essay disputing your claims and demonstrating your obvious logical fallacies, but I'd rather just point out that you have a history of bias and blatant misrepresentation.

Really, comments like "There is plenty of competition in cellular business" completely strip you of any credibility.


Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

said by sonicmerlin:

You know, I could write a 1000 word essay disputing your claims and demonstrating your obvious logical fallacies, but I'd rather just point out that you have a history of bias and blatant misrepresentation.

Really, comments like "There is plenty of competition in cellular business" completely strip you of any credibility.
Can't be said any truer than that.

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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reply to sonicmerlin
When you're done living in your own opinions, and want to rejoin the real world, we'll talk. Your "cute" and allegedly witty responses don't win arguments - facts do.

The fact that you have nothing to say, rather, chose to attempt to discredit me by posting ANY response at all shows your incredible lack of knowledge. (And your cheer leader that followed your post as well)

For your information...

Competition:

Competition is a combat between individuals, groups, nations, animals, etc. for territory, a niche, or allocation of resources. It arises whenever two or more parties strive for a goal which cannot be shared. Competition occurs naturally between living organisms which co-exist in the same environment. For example, animals compete over water supplies, food, and mates, etc. Humans compete for water, food, and mates, though when these needs are met deep rivalries often arise over the pursuit of wealth, prestige, and fame. Business is often associated with competition as most companies are in competition with at least one other firm over the same group of customers.

Competition may give incentives for self-improvement. For example, if two watchmakers are competing for business, they will hopefully improve their products and service to increase sales. If one watchmaker is more responsive to the needs of consumers, this watchmaker will flourish. If birds compete for a limited water supply during a drought, the more suited birds will survive to reproduce and improve the population.

Rivals will often refer to their competitors as "the competition". The term can also be used to refer to the contest or tournament itself.



jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL

reply to sonicmerlin
If there's supposedly no competition, why do I see commercials all over the place for ATT, Verizon, Sprint, TMobile, US Cellular?

What are they doing if not competing, oh gifted oracle of wisdom?


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