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|  A good compromise - she pays $18,000
I think Jammie Thomas should consider herself lucky if the damages are reduced to what her lawyer is asking for - $18,000. Especially since she had multiple opportunities to settle the case for much less than $18,000.
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If the award is changed, Thomas-Rasset argues she should pay the minimum damages of $18,000.
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I think even 18,000 is a bit much.
they keep arguing that stealing music is the same as walking into a store and stealing a CD. Well... if I stole that CD, and loaned it out to friends, would I have to pay for their use too?
$80,000 per song. Lets say people bought these songs on Itunes... She's paying equal amounts to 80,000 sales... and this doesn't seem absurd to the judge/jury?
I don't think RIAA/MPAA is wrong for trying to prevent piracy, and if anyone was in their place (Pirates who hate RIAA even) they would too. What makes everyone hate them... is how they do it.
Bankrupting moms/dads, ruining lives of familys to set an example... it's scaring/bully tactics. People refer to RIAA/MPAA as Mafia...and this is the exact reason.
I'm glad Canada is a bit more fair on the issue. And I'm pretty sure no Canadian would accept any such punishment if they were threatened to be imposed... I don't see how Americans can sit back and be robbed/bullied like this. |
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 Whether or not the RIAA accepts this settlement, in my opinion this case is irrelevant.
When this case is concluded it will not set a precedent as to whether or not the RIAA should be able to shake down an innocent broadband subscriber when their ISP has sent the RIAA the name and address of the wrong subscriber. To me this is the really important issue. The RIAA's Machine Gun Justice should be stopped.
I am aware from other comments that Jammie should have received sufficient notice to disable file sharing on her computer if she new how. Only Jammie can reveal why she did not. |
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said by TKJunkMail  :I think Jammie Thomas should consider herself lucky if the damages are reduced to what her lawyer is asking for - $18,000. Especially since she had multiple opportunities to settle the case for much less than $18,000. » news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-102805···1_3-0-20 If the award is changed, Thomas-Rasset argues she should pay the minimum damages of $18,000. $18,000 is a bit much, but I think the penalty should be enough to make people think twice about copyright infringement. If you make it 10x the cost of a song on Itunes, it gets to be $180 for 18 songs shared. Maybe 100x the cost would be fair.
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Considering she isn't innocent, why would you say that this case won't set a precedent for for other alleged copyright violations? |
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said by Mr Matt : RIAA should be able to shake down an innocent? broadband subscriber Innocent?? Don't make me laugh. She did it and 2 juries know she did it. She lied thru her teeth and tried to cover it up. And that is why the 2nd jury hammered her.
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Mr Matt : RIAA should be able to shake down an innocent? broadband subscriber Innocent?? Don't make me laugh. She did it and 2 juries know she did it. She lied thru her teeth and tried to cover it up. And that is why the 2nd jury hammered her. Guilty or not, the punishment should fit the crime. There should be a cap on the damages.
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baineschile
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She shouldnt have to paid a dime. This is the RIAA making an example of someone. We should all be suing the RIAA for selling us $19.99 8 track CDs for 10 years. |
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Re: A good compromise - she pays $18,000
I know dude, this is worse than $375 speeding tickets, or $5000 DUI fines.
It's almost like they're trying to send a message with such exhorbitant fines!
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said by baineschile : We should all be suing the RIAA for selling usholding a gun to our heads and demanding that we pay $19.99 8 track CDs for 10 years. Fixed it for you. |
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salut123
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American only seem to care if their guns and cheap beer is take away and then they will revolt... the rest who cares. Is sad what this country has come up to. |
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openbox9
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You're right. Throw her in prison since she perjured herself |
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I agree she shouldn't have to pay a dime. unless she was turning around and selling them.
I don't see this any different than recording a song off the radio.
or coping a cassette tape. do you remember (i know some of you won't) the high speed dubbing dual cassette radios, so you could make a copy of your cassettes for your friends? Where was the RIAA then? Why weren't they all over Sony and Panasonic for distributing these machines encouraging copyright infingment?
they are still selling them
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but due to the decline of the cassette tape I guess it's less of an issue, they would rather harass moms and little girls.
I have discovered a ton of music by downloading that I normally wouldn't hear on terrestrial radio (thank God I have sirrus/xm).
Who listens to CD's anymore and why? I can fit over 200 songs on my 1G mp3 player and carry it in my hand. how many CDs would I have to have if I wanted to listen to those same 200 songs 100+ and have a much larger player... come on RIAA get with the times. These recording artists are not starving by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe if they would stop flaunting their money with gold teeth and 100 pound gold chains hanging off their neck as they step out of a Rolls Royce limousine...well maybe then I would feel bad.
until then...my MP3 player has an insatiable appetite. |
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said by jester121 :I know dude, this is worse than $375 speeding tickets, or $5000 DUI fines. It's almost like they're trying to send a message with such exhorbitant fines! Message received. Drunk driving = less riskier than downloading an mp3! |
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I think 'stealing' music and the like should fall under petty theft or grand theft depending on how much was 'stolen'. It is mind boggling how stealing a song worth $1 (based on how much it is being sold for online or on a typical CD, not the actual cost to produce it) can result in a $80000 fine and stealing something like: a book, electronics, food, cigarettes, etc. will typical result in a fine less than $500.
I'm sick of this crap that makes the entertainment industry that looks like the center of the: world, universe, life, economy, and everything else under ths sun. I'm also sick of the MAFIAA being able to: operate the way that is does, strongly influence the government to sway to their side, sue with reckless abandon, make examples out of people, and more recently being able to push a so called 'treaty' (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement ) that appears to bypass the people. I thought the government representatives were suppose to work for the general population, not some select group of individuals that happen to have lots of money. Maybe the government needs to more change than the entertainment industry. |
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Don't you realize the difference? When you drive under the influence you can kill someone. But when you share out copyrighted works without the copyright owners' permission, you're *INFRINGING COPYRIGHT!!!!* That's much, much worse than simply killing people. Isn't it?
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Perhaps you need to go back and learn how to read, TK...
"When this case is concluded it will not set a precedent as to whether or not the RIAA should be able to shake down an innocent broadband subscriber when their ISP has sent the RIAA the name and address of the wrong subscriber."
He did not say that she was innocent. He said that this case would not set a precedent on the RIAA's ability to shake down potentially innocent people in the future.
You really only see what you want, don't you?
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Alexandria, VA | And this case was about "shaking down" a guilty person. Why would any case where the defendant is found guilty set a precedent against innocence? |
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