Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| Transparent Proxies
So, how long has Cogeco been using these?
Case in point, was at the office the other day waiting forever for a driver to download from Asus' website. The download was at around 80% when my boss decided to try and download the exact same file. The file downloaded to his machine at wire speed up to 80%, then slowed down to the exact same 20KB/s or so as I was getting once it hit the same amount that I had already downloaded.
So, how long as this been going on, and has Cogeco mentioned anything about this in the past? Transparent proxies used to cause a hell of a lot of issues with Bell. I haven't noticed anything bad happen yet, but I'm always weary about this sort of stuff.
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exseven
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Beamsville, ON
1 edit | no proxies anymore, used to have them (the autoconfig ones) then they were just decommissioned. That was a while ago |
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON
| said by exseven  :no proxies anymore, used to have them (the autoconfig ones) then they were just decommissioned. That was a while ago There has to be something transparent, somewhere. |
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
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If properly configured I have zero issues with Cogeco using transparent proxies. We could even benefit from them (if setup correctly).
Snickerdo, the content provider (someone on Asus's side) could also be using a reverse proxy. I haven't seen any indication whatsoever that Cogeco's using any form of proxying... at least anything that would nefariously affect my internet experience. |
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
Niagara Falls, ON | Yeah, poor configuration was my primary concern.
I'll have to do some more testing. If it was indeed a reverse proxy from Asus then fair enough. Just seemed real odd, hah. |
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exseven
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Beamsville, ON | asus' sites are really messed. Sometimes you will connect to a TW server sometimes to the .com (which is actually slower than .tw in most cases) |
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON | Yea, when I'm forced to use them, I find their Asian sites faster almost all the time.
exseven, are you able to disclose what proxies you were using? Just curious! |
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exseven
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Beamsville, ON | no idea what they were other than it was option-252 in DHCP  |
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Krispy
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the stix
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said by Snickerdo :said by exseven :no proxies anymore, used to have them (the autoconfig ones) then they were just decommissioned. That was a while ago There has to be something transparent, somewhere. Nope, there's no proxies (transparent or otherwise) in the network that would be impacting this, all proxies were decommissioned ~2007 I believe. It's possible that ASUS uses Akamai (which of course is not Cogeco) but I don't know offhand and doubt that would be causing your issues as that's supposed to prevent that type of issue. Also remember, if you're using Windows, that sometimes what I call Microsoft math can be misleading especially on files you've already partially downloaded. Lastly there's a possibility that the browser could be doing something strange if this is a HTTP download..have you tried multiple browsers if it is indeed a HTTP download?
If you want to PM me the link I can test for a few days and see if I'm seeing the same thing.
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON
| said by Krispy :Lastly there's a possibility that the browser could be doing something strange if this is a HTTP download..have you tried multiple browsers if it is indeed a HTTP download? If you want to PM me the link I can test for a few days and see if I'm seeing the same thing. We were both on the same Cogeco connection at our office. I was downloading the file using Firefox and it was taking forever. My boss decided to use IE on another computer. His download came in a wire speed (~1.7MB/s) until it downloaded to as far as I had already downloaded, then both our downloads dropped to the same speed, ~15KB/s or so.
The file was »dlcdnas.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/soc···VELL.zip. I'd curious to know what caused it, as the only conclusion we both could come up with is that there was some sort of transparent proxy.
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON | reply to Snickerdo
Using IDM, I was able to get 450 KB/Sec on that file, using a single connection I could barely get 20 KB/Sec. I've had this problem on ASUS' site for over 5 years.
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON
| said by Fireblade :Using IDM, I was able to get 450 KB/Sec on that file, using a single connection I could barely get 20 KB/Sec. I've had this problem on ASUS' site for over 5 years. Still doesn't explain why he was able to pull the entire length of the file I had already downloaded at wire speed, and then dropping down to 15-20KB/s once he reached the level that I had downloaded up to.
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exseven
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Beamsville, ON | like i said earlier it all depends on what FTP you connect to. The .com ftp is dog slow all the time. |
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Snickerdo
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| said by exseven :like i said earlier it all depends on what FTP you connect to. The .com ftp is dog slow all the time. Still, that's besides the point. It doesn't explain why we saw what we saw.
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exseven
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Beamsville, ON
1 edit | you connected to a slow FTP in their CDN, your boss connected to a faster/less used one. Its like the difference in downloading from fedora.com
in one case you could connect to less and get 16mbit, but your boss could connect to uwaterloo and get 1mbit |
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON
| said by exseven :you connected to a slow FTP in their CDN, your boss connected to a faster/less used one. Its like the difference in downloading from fedora.com in one case you could connect to less and get 16mbit, but your boss could connect to uwaterloo and get 1mbit Um, did you not read the part where I said how his download was 16Mbit up until the same amount of data that I had already downloaded to my machine, then his download on the other machine also slowed down to 15-20KB/s and pulled in data at an identical rate to mine? So basically what you're saying that the server switched mid-download to the same one I was using at the exact same time where he reached the same amount of data that I already downloaded? Right.  Still doesn't answer my question.
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urbanriot
join:2004-10-18
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| Well, if Cogeco isn't proxying and you don't believe it's a reverse proxy, it's also possible that whatever's funky between you and Asus was alleviated coincidentally around the same time and it only seemed like he was downloading the bits he had. That file is so small, I had it almost immediately after I clicked on it, so I don't know that I'd be able to tell the difference. |
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exseven
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join:2003-05-23
Beamsville, ON | reply to Snickerdo
sorry, i misread then |
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