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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to digitalfreak

Re: Mapping

Agenda? I'll ask you the same question that I asked ropeguru See Profile, what's your mapping proposal?


morbo
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join:2002-01-22
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No, the onus is on YOU to DEFEND this shitty mapping proposal owned and crafted by AT&T.

How is it in the public interest to send $350 million to AT&T? We know their financial interests are to lie and claim that the country is fully wired for broadband. This proposal would be worse than what we're doing now as it will create an air of legitimacy to the lies being spewed by telco and cableco PR departments.


backness

join:2005-07-08
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reply to openbox9
Well considering there are OTHER Providers than AT&T out there, perhaps giving this company the keys to the castle while others are left to wonder if the public data is accurate. If I were AT&T, I'd spend 349 Million on finding out exaclty where the weakneses in Comcasts network were. The other million i'd spend on lunch and vacations for key politians.

Basically anything that didn't give one-sided access to funds and data collection would be preferable.



fAcEtIOUs
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reply to morbo

said by morbo:

No, the onus is on YOU to DEFEND this shitty mapping proposal owned and crafted by AT&T.

How is it in the public interest to send $350 million to AT&T?
1st - the mapping proposal isn't owned by AT&T. That is an accusation never proved, by one group - Public Knowledge. »www.publicknowledge.org/node/252···ent-1546

2nd - the money isn't going to AT&T. It would be going to Connected Nation, an independent group.
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to morbo

said by morbo:

No, the onus is on YOU to DEFEND this shitty mapping proposal owned and crafted by AT&T.
I asked a simple question that people can't/won't answer. I don't need to defend anything. I'll ask you the same question as ropeguru See Profile and digitalfreak See Profile, what is your proposal?
said by morbo:

How is it in the public interest to send $350 million to AT&T?
Where did you get that from? How is AT&T getting $350M for broadband mapping?
said by morbo:

We know their financial interests are to lie and claim that the country is fully wired for broadband.
I don't understand this claim. AT&T only stands to gain more $$ from grants, subsidies, and USF-like slush funds to continue wiring the country if President Obama's administration is truly sincere about wiring the US.
said by morbo:

This proposal would be worse than what we're doing now as it will create an air of legitimacy to the lies being spewed by telco and cableco PR departments.
You're right, long live mapping by zip code where the US is nearly 100% connected with broadband

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to backness
AT&T isn't getting this infamous $350M. If Connected Nation does receive the money for mapping connectivity, it doesn't funnel into AT&T's coffers.

said by backness:

Basically anything that didn't give one-sided access to funds and data collection would be preferable.
Such as?

backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

You could probably do a better job.


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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reply to fAcEtIOUs
Connected Nation's board is stocked to the brim with telco execs. I can provide you with a link detailing the board members and their significant ties to the big businesses if you actually care.


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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reply to openbox9
Um, AT&T doesn't want the money to be given to smaller independent carriers willing to wire the rest of the gaps. They don't want competition. They also don't want consumers demanding that they provide better service considering their franchise agreements with various cities.



fAcEtIOUs
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said by sonicmerlin:

Connected Nation's board is stocked to the brim with telco execs. I can provide you with a link detailing the board members and their significant ties to the big businesses if you actually care.
I've seen it. Thanks.

All that proves is that Connected Nation will be well placed thru contacts to obtain the data they need easily and without any fuss or muss.
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lvlorpheus

join:2008-02-17
Springdale, AR

"All that proves is that Connected Nation will be well placed thru contacts to obtain the data they need easily and without any fuss or muss."

If its such a no fuss or muss with their contacts; whats been the major malfunction up to this point? With such easy and simplicity as you seem to imply with your, ...no fuss or muss, why wold they even ask for money for something so simple when the nation is so strapped.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to sonicmerlin
Your point? What for profit company wants their competition to grow?


sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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Because CN is the one who's mapping. They're tasked with the duty of providing unbiased and detailed mapping data. Obviously with their board stocked with telco execs there's a conflict on interest.


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