tmh
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The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL. |
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Eat Me
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The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
If you have a generator or battery/inverter or UPS you can extend that. |
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NickD
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My parents still have a landline that's used sparingly, mostly for international calls. |
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Matt
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said by tmh :
The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
How many emergencies require you to be on the phone for 8 hours? |
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| said by Matt  :said by tmh :
The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
How many emergencies require you to be on the phone for 8 hours? Not many. It's the emergencies that begin after 8 hours of power loss that might pose a problem. 
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v35_pilot
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said by Matt :How many emergencies require you to be on the phone for 8 hours? I believe the 8 hour limit is without phone usage. If one is on the phone the backup power reserve drops significantly, perhaps to as low as two hours.
Obviously the issue is that the phone becomes useless after a day or so during an extended power outage. |
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| said by v35_pilot :said by Matt :How many emergencies require you to be on the phone for 8 hours? I believe the 8 hour limit is without phone usage. If one is on the phone the backup power reserve drops significantly, perhaps to as low as two hours. Obviously the issue is that the phone becomes useless after a day or so during an extended power outage. That is correct. The 8 hour battery kicks in the minute the power goes out, and is used to power the ONT. After the initial 8 hours is up you are out of luck, unless you have a generator or some other setup at your house.
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 I lost power for over 4 days after a Hurricane. I had Two POTS Lines. The line that was tied to the Central Office via a Subscriber Line Carrier System failed after about 9 Hours. The other line ran directly to the Central Office on Copper and remained operational for the duration of the power outage. If one is connected to the Central Office via Subscriber Line Carrier do not expect to have telephone service during long term power outages. The design criteria for SLC is eight to twelve hours of battery backup. |
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Don't they still have that "Press this button for 2 extra hours" feature on their Battery Backup units or did they just phase those out after a while? But yes, UPS, a deep cycle 12v battery + Power Inverter or a small generator will get you by for a while.
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| said by Smith6612 :Don't they still have that "Press this button for 2 extra hours" feature on their Battery Backup units or did they just phase those out after a while? I am not sure how many different ONT's Verizon has deployed, or the differing features of each. However as nice as 2 extra hours is, during a lengthy emergency its almost pointless.
said by Smith6612 :But yes, UPS, a deep cycle 12v battery + Power Inverter or a small generator will get you by for a while. The real issue is that 99% of Verizon subs have no idea what you just said. When they install FIOS at a house, the take away the copper (in most cases) and run the phone service through the ONT. The average person wont know that anything is different, that is until the power goes out for a few hours and the battery backup craps out on them.....
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The design criteria for SLC is eight to twelve hours of battery backup. Indeed. The Florida PSC does not view the SLC as a remote CO (even tho that is actually what they are) and has no statutory requirement for battery capacity. Battery backup, while it is supposed to be good for 8-24 hours, doesn't always happen. I had to report the local ILEC to the PSC twice because the SLC had zero battery capacity. When you live in the boonies, and the power fails, its hard to call the power utility if the POTS line fails as well.
I'll leave it the imagination of the reader who the ILEC might be  |
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said by Matt :said by tmh :
The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
How many emergencies require you to be on the phone for 8 hours? It's not so much that..... it's extended powerloss, which is a very real threat, especially in the hurricane-states along the gulf and atlantic. Friends of mine only saw a little bit of a RAIN STORM up in Northern Louisiana when Katrina came barreling through.... their town had virtually no damage, maybe an uprooted tree here and there. But they were without power for three weeks because a major power line further south - closer to the actual path - had failed, and couldn't be repaired until weeks later.
Now..... in THEIR case, the phone was out as well. Completely. And it took about three days for them to repair that and get it back up and running, so having a land line is no guarantee either.....
In my case? I have a Vonage line and a land line. The landline is the business line for my wife's business, the vonage line is our regular home phone.
$25 unlimited America, Canada and serveral other countries. Hasn't let me down yet, and if there really is a bad, bad power failure..... I will still have that land line.
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said by Eat Me :said by tmh :
The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
If you have a generator or battery/inverter or UPS you can extend that. As being one who lived through the Northridge Earthquake, I had no power for a week and felt lucky when my power was turned back on. My POTS line (all that was available at that time) never missed a beat. FiOS, or even multiple battery back-ups, can't beat that. |
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normat
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I've gone weeks without power or landlines following hurricanes. While it didn't work well post apocalypse my cell phone actually was the most reliable service. Luckily, I was able to get power sources to charge the phone. |
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st7860
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said by Mr Matt : I lost power for over 4 days after a Hurricane. I had Two POTS Lines. The line that was tied to the Central Office via a Subscriber Line Carrier System failed after about 9 Hours. The other line ran directly to the Central Office on Copper and remained operational for the duration of the power outage. If one is connected to the Central Office via Subscriber Line Carrier do not expect to have telephone service during long term power outages. The design criteria for SLC is eight to twelve hours of battery backup. is an SLCC the same thing as those mini dslams(green thing ona concrete pole) that provide DSL and landlines to remote areas? in Vancouver BC, a phone tech on a forum said that theirs are powered by a DC over a 48 pair cable |
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said by burgerwars :As being one who lived through the Northridge Earthquake, I had no power for a week and felt lucky when my power was turned back on. My POTS line (all that was available at that time) never missed a beat. FiOS, or even multiple battery back-ups, can't beat that. You could always be in a Verizon territory and in a green field deployment. We don't have the option of copper POTS; it's all fiber and a battery backup for the ONT, or nothing. (Not that I care, as I haven't had a home phone in ~6 years, but it is a point to note)
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dlewis23
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said by tmh :
The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
Thats actually not really true. In florida when we had the back to back really bad hurricane seasons, in 3 of the storms that hit my area I lost power for over a week each time, and each time I had bellsouth home phone service through the entire time the power was out. |
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patcat88
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said by wesm :You could always be in a Verizon territory and in a green field deployment. We don't have the option of copper POTS; it's all fiber and a battery backup for the ONT, or nothing. (Not that I care, as I haven't had a home phone in ~6 years, but it is a point to note) So what happens if you want to order CLEC local POTS? What about universal service? |
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patcat88
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said by st7860 :in Vancouver BC, a phone tech on a forum said that theirs are powered by a DC over a 48 pair cable You think a US phone company will buy such luxuries? |
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said by burgerwars :said by Eat Me :said by tmh :
The backup battery dies after 8 hours. Then your SOL.
If you have a generator or battery/inverter or UPS you can extend that. As being one who lived through the Northridge Earthquake, I had no power for a week and felt lucky when my power was turned back on. My POTS line (all that was available at that time) never missed a beat. FiOS, or even multiple battery back-ups, can't beat that. I had power and phone back up in 24 hours. Sounds like you were living in wrong place at wrong time.
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