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1 edit | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far said by IPPlanMan:So far, we're going to have Docsis 3.0 with the same Caps. Not all areas have been upgraded to DOCSIS 3.
Greatest common divisor is the easiest approach when setting the policy, considering 99.99+% of the subscriber base won't be affected by it.
A 38mbps DOCSIS channel cannot move more than 12312GB/mo. When you factor out overhead and CDV bandwidth, the HSI share is still divided out across approximately 250 users per channel today. If you do the math, it's not possible to support every user hitting 250GB.
Over time that will improve, but you have to keep in mind that network expansion is done over years, not months. | |
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1 edit | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far Wow... In my neighborhood (where everyone has comcast, and at least 125 homes are served off of one node) One bonded channel would only allow for 100 GB per person per month... but w/ 4 bonded channels that goes to 400 GB per home, and then doubles again with 8 channels. | |
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2 edits | How is this possible? Again, no caps on a Docsis 3.0 system...
»twitter.com/midconews/status/2420466717
»West Fargo Gets DOCSIS 3.0 Before Manhattan
Just like cablevision, as was discussed earlier...
What is so different about Comcast that they cannot do this on their Docsis 3.0 tiers?
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1 edit | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far said by IPPlanMan:What is so different about Comcast that they cannot do this? Are you implying that because one company makes an "at this time" business decision, all companies should operate under the same business decision?
Mod Note: Did this thread lose a sticky? | |
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2 edits | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far Cablevision makes it at least 2 companies that can do this. I am sure that there are more.
It shows that it is technically possible. | |
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1 edit | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far said by IPPlanMan:It shows that it is technically possible. Many things are technically possible. Should all businesses do everything that is technically possible? | |
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1 edit | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far I'm not sure what you're getting at. | |
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3 edits | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far said by IPPlanMan:I'm not sure what you're getting at. Your facts were correct, but I think the point you were trying to make was not valid. Just because one company does something under their current variables and needs, does not mean all will make the same business decisions at the same time.
My .02: I think this thread has digressed into yourself and sturmvogel  agreeing with each other about why you are both upset at Comcast. I think we all get it. Are there any new topics that have not been raised (or beat to death?) | |
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1 edit | said by IPPlanMan:How is this possible? Again, no caps on a Docsis 3.0 system... No published caps.
said by IPPlanMan:What is so different about Comcast that they cannot do this on their Docsis 3.0 tiers? Different subscriber:channel ratios on the DOCSIS plant, and a vastly different service footprint. | |
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1 edit | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far If so, and i am not sure if there's anything to indicate that. But if so, think they're higher than 250GB?
What effect does the footprint have?
What's kept Comcast from adjusting its ratios? | |
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2 edits | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far said by IPPlanMan:If so, and i am not sure if there's anything to indicate that. But if so, think they're higher than 250GB? Cablevision has a well documented history of throttling connections of heavy users. If you get throttled to the point that you can't transmit more than a certain amount of bits across the wire, it's essentially coming down to the same thing as a bandwidth cap.
We've covered this ground earlier in the thread here: »Comcast vs. Cablevision caps
Check out the first post in this thread -- sortofageek has invested quite a bit of effort in summarizing out the various topics.
It's to the point now where "Round and Round" by Ratt should start playing when you click on this thread. | |
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3 edits | DOCSIS 3.0 has the same cap, so far I think that subthread has been overlooked in certain respects. | |
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2 edits | Traffic Control For The Remainder Of Topic, Please Read said by espaeth: We've covered this ground earlier in the thread here: » Comcast vs. Cablevision capsCheck out the first post in this thread -- sortofageek has invested quite a bit of effort in summarizing out the various topics. It's to the point now where "Round and Round" by Ratt should start playing when you click on this thread. In fairness to all forum participants, as I have heard from so many, the repetition of the circular debates has been dizzying and tiring. It has long been obvious continuing this repetition is only important to a couple of people and I really believe we have given you guys a fair length of time to express your views.
In regard to my links in the first post, yes, I have really tried to rename subtopics and provide those links. I always welcome suggestions if I miss some which should be included. I had two reasons for doing that: (1) to help people searching for info and (2) to help a couple of you find the previous discussions so, hopefully, you would not feel the need to repeat, so that your views were not really buried and you could see they are still accessible.
To those who really would like to see the repetition end, when you see it, heymod the post and give me a link to where it was discussed previously. While even a rantlike complaint is allowed in this forum, to a point, pounding us with it repeatedly just needs to stop.
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