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Romney2012
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reply to en102

Re: Open Source Chrome OS

said by en102:

(i.e. don't get Vista with less than 3GB of RAM)
My 2 Vista systems runs very well on 2 GB of ram with no problems whatever. And I run a test Windows 7 bootable region on 2 GB of memory and it is even faster than Vista.
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Overtkill
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Diggity! Aint it! Vista is totally tamable. I have no problems making SP1 livable, and even better with SP2.

Windows 7 is definitely coming along nicely. I think most people don't appreciate what an undertaking it is to create an OS of this magnitude!

-Akbar humor aside.... If there was a concentrated effort in the Open Source (Linux) community, I believe they could compete well. The obvious difference is all the paid developers Micro$oft has with mega overtime. I for one am interested in seeing what Google (Skynet Indeed!) produces over Linux. Perhaps a good starting (or jumping off) point for the community!



en102
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reply to Romney2012
I since I only have 1 Vista Home Premium and it originally came with 1 GB (horrific) on a Compaq AMD 64 3800+ and was horrific. I was able to get a deal on memory and upped it to 3GB.
On Fedora core, 1GB was more than enough.

The laptop came with 3GB

The main differences that I've noticed:
Linux by default = Kernel + a few daemons (sshd, syslogd, etc.) most are 'sleeping' and consuming very little RAM / cpu.

Windows by default has a significant amount of services running, and most 'builds' toss in a whole ton of junk, many consuming a lot of RAM while sleeping. I typically see many svchost.exe processes totalling up to ~200MB, IE consuming over 100MB, and cpu ~8-10%

On a server level, there's no comparison - I've had people wondering if monitoring was broken, as ntload would be all over the map (caching files, AV sweeps, reindexing, etc). The linux box sitting between 99% and 100% idle - of course an ftp server running on a quad Xeon 3.40GHz AS 3 box is WAY overkill

63 processes: 62 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  cpu    user    nice  system    irq  softirq  iowait    idle
           total    0.0%    0.0%    0.1%   0.0%     0.0%    0.0%   99.9%
           cpu00    0.0%    0.0%    0.2%   0.0%     0.0%    0.0%   99.8%
           cpu01    0.0%    0.0%    0.0%   0.0%     0.0%    0.0%  100.0%
           cpu02    0.0%    0.0%    0.2%   0.0%     0.0%    0.0%   99.8%
           cpu03    0.0%    0.0%    0.0%   0.0%     0.0%    0.0%  100.0%
Mem:  4087688k av, 4066944k used,   20744k free,       0k shrd,  156344k buff
                   3082648k actv,  591032k in_d,   89060k in_c
Swap: 2048276k av,       0k used, 2048276k free                 3639320k cached
 

Of course, for DB, I prefer a real box
 prtdiag
System Configuration:  Sun Microsystems  sun4u Sun SPARC Enterprise M5000 Server
System clock frequency: 1012 MHz
Memory size: 32768 Megabytes
 
==================================== CPUs ====================================
 
      CPU                 CPU                         Run    L2$    CPU   CPU
LSB   Chip                 ID                         MHz     MB    Impl. Mask
---   ----  ----------------------------------------  ----   ---    ----- ----
 00     0      0,   1,   2,   3                       2150   5.0        6  147
 00     1      8,   9,  10,  11                       2150   5.0        6  147
 00     2     16,  17,  18,  19                       2150   5.0        6  147
 00     3     24,  25,  26,  27                       2150   5.0        6  147
 
============================ Memory Configuration ============================
 
       Memory  Available           Memory     DIMM    # of  Mirror  Interleave
LSB    Group   Size                Status     Size    DIMMs Mode    Factor
---    ------  ------------------  -------    ------  ----- ------- ----------
 00    A        16384MB            okay       2048MB      8 no       4-way
 00    B        16384MB            okay       2048MB      8 no       4-way
 
 

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Romney2012
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said by en102:

Windows by default has a significant amount of services running, and most 'builds' toss in a whole ton of junk, many consuming a lot of RAM while sleeping.
I agree that that is a problem. Especially all the extra junk put on a new computer by retail outfits.

And the 1st thing I do with a new system is uninstall all the junk; stop services that are not needed; and modify many default settings for performance reasons. Mostly I blame the retailer for this problem more than I do Microsoft. It is they who could deliver a system built & tuned for performance instead of trying to impress users with all the useless freebies they add on to the system. It is a shame really, because the average user could be sold a Windows system that can fly, instead of one clogged with junk.

Some tuning guides:
»www.microsoft.com/Downloads/deta···ylang=en

»www.pctipsbox.com/speed-up-windo···-tuning/

and there are lots of others.
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S_engineer
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Most people I know uninstall the preloaded crap that comes on laptops...or desktops for that matter. But Vista still had too many processes running for my comfort. Even after I butchered vista, it was still running 60 some processes. Then the switch came real easy for me....I installed a windows update and it put my 4 week old Vista laptop into a shutdown/start up cycle that made it unrecoverable. I switched to 7 and have been running 7 on that laptop ever since. Fully loded with the apps I use, 7 is running with 28-30 processes. Getting rid of Vista was a blessing.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Romney2012
A lot of the 'junk' that the retailers add/bundle in are 'paid' installs that 3rd party companies want your business and throw in a whole bunch of trial ware / Toolbars (plague of the modern PC), and tons of apps that want to 'dial home' for updates frequently.
Many peripherals have become that way, IMO.
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AnonDOG

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reply to Romney2012
Basically you fix the broken system that you bought, instead of just using a system that is not broken in the first place?


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