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Stepford, CA | Armchair Generals, Calm The Fk WAY Down Several websites, including the Treasury and Secret Service sites, were knocked completely offline [...] LMAO. And why exactly is this worthy of a response with deadly force? It's not like either the Treasury OR the SS web sites, or any other web site for that matter, have any kind of life or death relevance to the population. |
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said by major marco:Several websites, including the Treasury and Secret Service sites, were knocked completely offline [...] LMAO. And why exactly is this worthy of a response with deadly force? It's not like either the Treasury OR the SS web sites, or any other web site for that matter, have any kind of life or death relevance to the population. Major dittos to the conservative from the land of the Stepford wives. |
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 Mr NeutronLooks like I picked the wrong week toPremium
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Gorham, ME | reply to major marco
said by major marco:Several websites, including the Treasury and Secret Service sites, were knocked completely offline [...] LMAO. And why exactly is this worthy of a response with deadly force? It's thought to be worthy of one because the US is a country that can do things to other countries largely with impunity. And I think that's what makes folks so confident when it comes to doing things to other countries: the fact that those other countries are largely powerless to do anything back.
I, too, am fascinated/mortified by all the tough talk I see here. And, no offense, but I'm guessing that most of the folks doing the talking have ever heard a shot fired in anger. I say this because, if you have, you tend to take a much different view fn warfare than if the only fighting you've ever done involved a mouse and a keyboard.
Anyone who is gung-ho about shooting at other folks, whether it's with missles or with bullets, should be booking a flight to Afghanistan where, I've heard tell, there are plenty of opportunities for action-seekers to make themselves useful. Perhaps we can start up a program that will allow civilians a chance to hump a pack for a Marine and give them a bit of a break, huh? 
Or, better yet, maybe these same gung-ho types could volunteer a few hours at the local VA helping to take care of the people who almost, but not quite, made it back from the last few conflicts we've been in.
In case no one has noticed, we're already embroiled in two shooting wars. Which makes this apparent eagerness to create still more veterans when the government has demonstrated that it can't adequately take care of the old ones all the more puzzling (to me, at least). To say nothing of the economic repercussions of shooting at other folks when the economy is still circling the toilet bowl.
Sorry to sound so peacenik, but, Jesus Christ: when are people going to learn that this country has never benefitted from going to war ("defensively" or otherwise)? All we ever get out of it are dishpan hands and a bunch of dead people.
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| said by Mr Neutron:when are people going to learn that this country has never benefitted from going to war ("defensively" or otherwise)? All we ever get out of it are dishpan hands and a bunch of dead people. I'd like to see you say that to the face of a WW2 combat Vet.
What an asinine thing to say. |
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Mr NeutronLooks like I picked the wrong week toPremium
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1 edit | said by LaminarFlow:said by Mr Neutron:when are people going to learn that this country has never benefitted from going to war ("defensively" or otherwise)? All we ever get out of it are dishpan hands and a bunch of dead people. I'd like to see you say that to the face of a WW2 combat Vet. What an asinine thing to say. It's funny you should say that. Because it so happens that my father was a participant in that conflict. In fact, he's the one who told me, firsthand, about the dishpan hands and dead friends part: it seems he ended up with a few. They were among the 400,000-plus casulaties we suffered for the privilege of handing Europe over to the Russians when it was all over.
Asinine, indeed. Neither he nor any other combat veteran ever derived any benefit from a war, unless you'd care to count seeing your friends shot up and blown to pieces (atomized, really) as a "benefit." And even the guys who did make it back in one piece were never the same after. How could you be after seeing murder take place on such a massive scale?
Sir, there is no such thing as a "good war." Someday, we will learn that, but it's becoming obvious that it's something we'll be forced to learn, seeing as how we can't seem to recognize that fact on our own.
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And I agree that there never is a good war, but sometimes you are forced to go to war (if you want to keep your freedoms).
I'm glad I'm not speaking German right now and I can't honor those enough who given their life in defense of my freedoms. |
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Mr NeutronLooks like I picked the wrong week toPremium
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1 edit | said by imanogre:And I agree that there never is a good war, but sometimes you are forced to go to war (if you want to keep your freedoms). I would hope that we have a higher threshold for going to war than merely having websites undergoing a denial of service attack. Sorry, but I have a hard time equating a DOS attack on a website with an attempt to steal my freedom in any meaningful way.
Besides which, I have yet to see any actual proof that the North Koreans are thoe ones who are behind this. The last article I read on this claimed that "North Korea or North Korean sympathizers" [emphasis mine] were the culprits.
Call me Mr. Skeptical, but I have a hard time believing that North Korea has any sympathizers. Even the Chinese (who are basically their sponsors) have been having a hard time liking the North Koreans these past few years. I do believe, however, that the North Koreans can certainly serve as a convenient bogeyman who, along with the Iranians, can serve to help distract the increasingly restive folks in the US from their real problems.
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I agree, yet we need to keep the big picture in mind. Only a month ago the BBC announced that Chinese and Russian Cyber spies were in our power grid. That same day five fiber optic cables were cut in San Jose (mother ship of computer land) - two million people lost phone, cell and internet for two days. The message is clear, they intend to bring us down its just a matter of when and who.
July 4th was for the significance of the date. Just like 9-11... |
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