 usa2kBlessedPremium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
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Re: [DNS] Comcast Launches Trial of Domain Helper Service This should work like a lead balloon!
»Invalid URL Redirects?
»news.cnet.com/2100-1032_3-5086101.html
Very BAD idea. Good name for it though |
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| said by nate1234:Maybe they can use the money from this to fund network expansion, and remove the 250gb cap? Not likely.
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AVonGaussPremium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | reply to nate1234
I am not really a fan of DNS redirection for many of the reasons already stated here and in the news article comments, but I do want to commend the process in which this system is being rolled out. Its good to see the trend of Comcast being more open and forthcoming about changes continuing.
The burden definitely is not all Comcast's, but what I would be much more interested in seeing from any IETF efforts is a plan to correct what is broken by DNS redirection. Marketing spins aside, DNS redirection by ISPs is really about additional ad revenue and name branding which means it is primarily (if not solely) targeting the user and more specifically browser related services such as http, https, ftp, ftps - gopher? 
If DNS redirection is going to be implemented by ISPs as an opt-out system, there really should be efforts to address the issues caused at the browser level (caching, history, etc) and mechanisms established that allow other services such as SSH, POP, IMAP, SMTP and VPNs to continue to receive the NXDOMAIN responses as originally intended and currently specified in the standards. This is also something needed by networks such as WiFi hot spots or other semi-public networks that require a login and use DNS redirection to provide the user a login page. In this case, its not so much of the NXDOMAIN response as it is selectively redirecting browser requests vs all requests from all types of services.
Not trying to be preachy, but something I think all ISPs should remember; your customers are paying you for a service. They are not signing up to be an audience for ads that you are selling or reselling and while they will tolerate it to a point, there is definitely a threshold to that tolerance at which the customer will start to devalue your service no matter how well that service performs.
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | reply to freebird317
Well, SOMEONE has got to pay for those funny turtles.
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usa2kBlessedPremium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
kudos:3 | So as long as I continue to use DNS 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.4
I should be immune from the redirection.
That is how I opted out on WideOpenWest Cable. |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | said by usa2k:So as long as I continue to use DNS 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.4 I should be immune from the redirection. That is how I opted out on WideOpenWest Cable. They can hijack your DNS settings.
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 pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium
join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | said by AVD:said by usa2k:So as long as I continue to use DNS 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.4 I should be immune from the redirection. That is how I opted out on WideOpenWest Cable. They can hijack your DNS settings. I sure hope not.. I also use 3rd party DNS to aviod issues just like this topic.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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said by AVD:They can hijack your DNS settings. Comcast has already stated that they will not.
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PittsPghPremium
join:2003-08-21
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | reply to N3OGH
said by N3OGH:Well, SOMEONE has got to pay for those funny turtles. I thought they needed to pay for the drugs that freaked out rabbit is on! LOL |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | reply to NormanS
said by NormanS:said by AVD:They can hijack your DNS settings. Comcast has already stated that they will not. I never said they do or would, I just said that they can.
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