 jlivingoodPremium,VIP
join:2007-10-28
Philadelphia, PA
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1 edit | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? said by funchords:I'm personally hopeful that Comcast is looking ahead at bringing the bandwidth instead of holding it off. Signs are that they have no taste for this scarcity game any longer. They want people who think big things about telecom to think good things about Comcast. They don't just want to be ruler, they want to be the elected ruler. I hope that's true. [personal hat on]
I think it is, personally speaking. That's what we're doing with DOCSIS 3.0. But it is always a balance... We'll throw more and more downstream and more and more upstream capacity in the network, and then the apps have to sort of catch up a bit. You can't out-drive the headlights too much or in the end the finance guys call you on it and you have trouble justifying the investment. But that's also the nice part of our network design, is that the investments can be fairly incremental and understandable.
[personal hat off]
So I'm also working on a 5-year bandwidth plan.... What d'ya think you want and need then? (seriously) 
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3 edits | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? I think it would be a good idea to map out what kinds of speed was available 5 years ago, and make a graph showing the increase. Then make a trend line, and add 15-30%
Comcast could help pull America to the top of the average internet connection speed statistics.
"The median download speed increased by only four-tenths of a megabit per second (from 1.9 mbps to 2.3 mbps), and the median upload speed barely changed (from 371 to 435 kbps). At this rate, it will take the United States more than 100 years to catch up with current Internet speeds in Japan." | |
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 CjaicemanPremium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
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1 edit | said by jlivingood:So I'm also working on a 5-year bandwidth plan.... What d'ya think you want and need then? (seriously) More upload. I'm actually happy with the 24mbps download I get now out of my 22/5, but I would be a lot more happy with a 25/25, which is easily done on D3 once upstream bonding is rolled out (and once the CMTS's get gold certs from Cable Labs). 50/50 would great and I would jump all over that. The only thing better would be 100/100, which would be a stretch on a D3 network, but could be done w/ 4 channels in each direction, but by then there may be 8x4, so 100/100 wouldn't even stress the download side with a lot of users on.
A basic residential user would be happy I think with a 20/10.
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3 edits | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? I agree. I think all packages should be symmetrical, and in 10mbps increments all the way to 100/100 or higher. 8 channels bonding both ways is probably a good idea. Maybe try to get it down to below 50 users per node, or go FTTH. | |
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| |  EGThe wings of lovePremium
join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ
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1 edit | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? Where does it end... ? | |
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1 edit | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? where does what end? | |
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| | | | EGThe wings of lovePremium
join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ
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2 edits | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? Keeping up with the *Joneses* ??  | |
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1 edit | What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? Until you hit 100 Mb/s? | |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | said by jlivingood:So I'm also working on a 5-year bandwidth plan.... What d'ya think you want and need then? (seriously) In 2014, assuming status quo capping
$40/mo, 50 Mbps/10 Mbps, up to 2 TB usage
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|  IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
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1 edit | Re: What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? I'll bet that by that time, 2TB will feel like 250GB... Seriously. Technology does not have a linear growth pattern. It grows exponentially. | |
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1 edit | Re: What do you think will be needed in bandwidth in 5 years? how about like this:
"15% of the total amount of bandwidth you could use in a month"
you could increase the percentage over time
i.e.
50/10 Mb/s tier would get: 2.5 TB
22/5 Mb/s tier would get: 1 TB
16/2 Mb/s tier would get: .75 TB
12/2 Mb/s tier would get: .5 TB
8/2 Mb/s tier would get: .35 TB
6/1 Mb/s tier would get: .25 TB | |
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1 edit | What does comcast pay for 1GB of data transfer? What does comcast pay for 1GB of data transfer? | |
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| | | | | | | | | IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
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1 edit | What does comcast pay for 1GB of data transfer? It would be great to know but I am sure it is some kind proprietary info. | |
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| | | | |  JohnInSJPremium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
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| Re: If metered, What cost would you pay? said by nate1234:What cost per GB or 10GB would you pay? Let's look at Amazon Ec2 transport costs (why not?)
from »aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing
Internet Data Transfer
The pricing below is based on data transferred "in" and "out" of Amazon EC2.
Data Transfer In
All Data Transfer $0.10 per GB
Data Transfer Out
First 10 TB per Month $0.17 per GB
Next 40 TB per Month $0.13 per GB
Next 100TB per Month $0.11 per GB
Over 150 TB per Month $0.10 per GB
So, you're looking at 10 cents per GB to 17 cents per GB. 250GB is $25-$42.50 depending on the in/out mix - call it $35 on average.
That's probably a bit more then the carry cost for Amazon (ie, they make a buck )
Using a hosting service like Godaddy, you'll get 300GB/mo for your $5/mo web site. That's pretty cheap. Want cheaper? inmotionhosting.com gives you 1TB/mo on their cheap personal hosting plan.
This show you that the cost is associated more with the customer side then the backhaul - apparently backhaul is nearly free.
Funny Aside... »www.isp-planet.com/business/pricing3a.html - in 1999 using a T1 full out would cost you $4/GB! Your 250GB allotment from comcast would be the same as using a full T1 for 35 days, or $1000.
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| | | | | | | | Re: If metered, What cost would you pay? Inmotionhosting.com = $7/mo for unlimited bandwidth and disk space! | |
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| Re: If metered, What cost would you pay? said by nate1234:Inmotionhosting.com = $7/mo for unlimited bandwidth and disk space! Nice, but bandwidth is only free after you get out of a neighborhood. *all* (essentially) of comcasts costs are NOT backhaul.
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| | You should make a web page or sticky'd topic that contains all of those IETF documents easily available, so we don't have to look through sub-threads.
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