cpsycho
join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON | reply to milnoc
Re: CRTC Hearing - Day 6 - (Not Quite) The Last Day
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | reply to milnoc
So JF will you be staying an extra day to watch the Bell presentation and grill-a-thon?  |
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24 | reply to MaynardKrebs
How could Bell claim bias when the commission has sided with them thus far? I think the crtc's had quite the education this past week, and now just has some "interesting" questions for them. |
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jam_bongo
join:2002-07-17
Toronto, ON | reply to milnoc
does this mean the deadline to make comments is extended then? |
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cpsycho
join:2008-06-03
Orangeville, ON | when is the deadline? |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
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Im just very pleased that the CRTC are treating this fairly and accurately with the facts at hand, and not just taking speculation ( which is evidently obvious coming from these big Telcos )
youve heard them speak .. so your final submissions should give you a sense on how they answer and word their paragraphs on the different sections.
that song just came to mind ¨can see clearly now .. the rain is gone ... i can see ALL the OBSTACLES in my WAAAAAAAAAy ¨ |
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N Terloper
@bell.ca
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Re: CRTC Hearing - Day 6 - The Last Day
said by Thane_Bitter  :Napster killed the network? Huh? That was a fiendishly clever, cheap and sleazy trick. He's trying to taint p2p with illegitimacy/illegality in the minds of the CRTC by conflating it with Napster. |
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InvalidError
join:2008-02-03
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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Re: CRTC Hearing - Day 6 - (Not Quite) The Last Day
said by Candoo3 :How could Bell claim bias when the commission has sided with them thus far? I think the crtc's had quite the education this past week, and now just has some "interesting" questions for them. I think many of the presentations last week made it abundantly clear that application-specific throttling would threaten to ruin new innovative applications and content distribution strategies before the affected parties could get an ex-post resolution. As such, I believe carriers have pretty much lost all chances of completely escaping regulation.
If someone could drive home the point that most broadband subscribers are members of a captive audience rather than a competitive market place, it will make the need for unmolested carrier network access for TPIA/GAS even more obvious. |
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N Terloper
@bell.ca
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said by MaynardKrebs :said by DJMASACRE :hey JF , what was the expression on SHAW guys face when Fincklestein said that ¨we will give Bell the interrogation they deserve .. after all they started this whole thing ¨.. id like to know the expressions on peoples faces, lol That one glib comment may give Bell all the ammunition they need to 'prove' bias and have any ruling against them vacated. He didn't say "tough interrogation it deserves". Maybe he meant "light interrogation it deserves". KVF is a former Canadian judge of some standing. I think he knows what he can and cannot say (but I could be wrong). |
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jmay
join:2008-11-20
Kingston, ON | reply to milnoc
Is it just me? It seems from the Twitter comments and some of the comments on hear that my audio stream is delayed several minutes. |
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InvalidError
join:2008-02-03
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Re: CRTC Hearing - Day 6 - The Last Day
said by lester :They only throttle upload though just like Robbers If you reduce upload speeds low enough, you can increase the ACK round-trip time to the point where all TCP/IP traffic on that socket gets slowed down because TCP/IP will reduce its reception window in response to detecting a slow/congested link.
So there is a point where limiting upstream bandwidth will limit downstream bandwidth. |
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InvalidError
join:2008-02-03
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said by N Terloper :
That was a fiendishly clever, cheap and sleazy trick. He's trying to taint p2p with illegitimacy/illegality in the minds of the CRTC by conflating it with Napster. I think the CRTC is giving due consideration to ZIP.ca's presentation from last week about "Innovation Without Permission" and how P2P throttling is negatively impacting his plans for BitTorrent-powered content distribution. same with the independent film producers' association.
The CRTC has a mandate to promote Canadian content, the CRTC cannot ignore the pleas of the independent film producers on the basis that telcos/cablecos do not like P2P and subscribers contributing bandwidth to P2P file distribution. |
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MaynardKrebs
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join:2009-06-17
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Re: CRTC Hearing - Day 6 - (Not Quite) The Last Day
Enough of that shite for one day. |
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Jethro86
join:2005-05-27
Winchester, ON | reply to milnoc
Is the Torrent out for the 13th (today's) CRTC hearings. Hard to find in 50 pages of replies. |
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Cyborg994
join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC | reply to milnoc
Not yet. |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B | Almost there! |
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BurnHavoc
join:2003-07-14
Kitchener, ON | reply to milnoc
Apparently I missed all the fun :P Just got home from work and caught up on the thread. I'm glad Bell is on tomorrow, I have the day off =D MUAHAHA
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B | reply to milnoc
Today's files are now available. »CRTC Hearing - Day 7 - For Whom The Bell Tolls |
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cbp
join:2005-11-24
Montreal, QC | reply to milnoc
Can anyone summarize the whole day? I don't really want to listen to several hours of crap. |
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CanerisErik
Caneris
Premium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
| said by cbp :Can anyone summarize the whole day? I don't really want to listen to several hours of crap. The telcos are evil. Everyone else is supposedly good. The End.
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