milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B
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Re: CRTC Hearing - Day 6 - The Last Day
Now that the housekeeping is done, what are the chances the Union des Consommateurs will cover all the critical points of traffic management that we don't have any trouble discussing on this very forum, but which too many intervenors at the CRTC were incapable of explaining in a clear and concise way during the previous week? |
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Money trail
@videotron.ca
| said by milnoc  :Now that the housekeeping is done, what are the chances the Union des Consommateurs will cover all the critical points of traffic management that we don't have any trouble discussing on this very forum, but which too many intervenors at the CRTC were incapable of explaining in a clear and concise way during the previous week? Seriously?
The CRTC keeps asking where the money will come from.
I have to wonder if this is a loaded question from them.
Maybe them Begging someone to finally show some money the users are paying?
There was a topic I think you made about money.
-UBB
-loop fee's
-the +20$/month wholesale charge
-System access fee's
- +other
and also the gem JF covered which I tried to put into words here:
»Re: Cogeco's throttle and DPI-Discussed
+ more that the customer pays for maintenance, double dipping in B/W, upgrade fee's, line maintenance and so on.
These monies are being taken.
The only investment is their own in wholesale-locked-out remotes. Monopoly.
People on wholesale did pay these fee's. But now the maintenance, upgrades and B/W is being denied (yet double-dipping continue's).
This is a form of abuse, to which the CRTC said there was none and they are not willing to accept that there is any abuse occurring.
Bell is doing it, Rogers, Cogeco and of course TSI and all wholesalers will be part of the double-dipping even if they don't want to be, in order to fill Bell's coffers.
Their eyes need to be opened on this little thing.
The CRTC keeps asking (almost every day), Do you expect the shareholders to pay this?
Everyone to date more or less stuttered at this question when Konrad asks it.
I think they should boldly answer this question when it gets asked again next week. No stuttering.
There is double dipping going on here, as JF's presentation fully shows.
I think they need to spend at least 2-minutes of their 15-minutes on this part to show consumers are already paying and re-paying.
as for the rest... dunno. |
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jfmezei
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join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
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>Now that the housekeeping is done, what are the chances the Union des
>Consommateurs will cover all the critical points of traffic management
>that we don't have any trouble discussing on this very forum
The Union's academic expert supported Bell's claims that having 10 TCP sessions allowed one user to use 10 times as much bandwidth as one who has only TCP 1 session. So my hopes are not high.
However, they may be good in terms of the false advertising issue of ISPs advertising speeds that they cannot provide. |
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milnoc
join:2001-03-05
H3B
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by jfmezei :The Union's academic expert supported Bell's claims that having 10 TCP sessions allowed one user to use 10 times as much bandwidth as one who has only TCP 1 session. So my hopes are not high. If that were true, then I should be using twice as much bandwidth at work (two lines) than I do at home (one line).
But that ain't what's happening, even with the BitTorrent server up and running.
I might have to respond to the CRTC after the hearings are over. I really didn't like how things went this week. I'm starting to wonder if I should have made my own oral presentation. The only problem is that if I said what I wanted to say, I'd probably be sued for slander by now. |
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N Terloper
@bell.ca
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panem et circenses
said by jfmezei :... However, they may be good in terms of the false advertising issue of ISPs advertising speeds that they cannot provide. Unfortunately, corporate truth-shading, misdirection and outright lying has become so pervasive that people expect to be lied to and just shrug their shoulders in response. For example, where's the mass anger response to the financial meltdown and have any laws with teeth regarding accountability been passed since then?
Short of the ignition of some sort of revolutionary fire under the arses of a public easily distracted by shiny objects, I'm not optimistic about this angle. |
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