Vampirefo
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-11
Huntington, WV
 ·Comcast
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Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade?
said by Fishead1  : I have to agree with you Wolfie00.I would like to just upgrade to WIN XP PRO 64 bit version but I may hold off on even that. Bill Gates loves to make you pay and pay for updated versions of the same OS with a lot of stuff thats been fixed from the VISTA OS and not a lot really new that is usable for most of us. Its like they want to emulate MAC OS's.Looking pretty doesn't matter to me. I have limited funds at the moment .I'm on a fixed income(SSI Disability)and it takes time to gather money for new build and new OS. I won't upgrade until I "have" to. I remember back when I was using XP MS used to give away the 64bit in an even trade for your 32bit license. Basically MS provided a download link that one could download the 64bit, and upgrade their 32 bit for free.
But I guess not that's not the case now.
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voip_user
join:2006-06-14
Middletown, CT | I believe that is still the case -- when you buy Windows7 you get both the 32bit and 64bit versions |
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howie
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-08
Little Falls, NJ
| said by voip_user :I believe that is still the case. It is. 
»Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? |
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | reply to howie
said by howie :Here is a concept video of what Windows 8 may look like: Copenhagen User Experience from Copenhagen Concept on Vimeo. [EDIT] I'd upgrade as you can always sell it for more than you paid. Microsoft WILL NOT offer any special offers on Windows 7 upgrades after today. ya know whats funny about that video if you look at the menus they look like htey are macintosh ROFL
and linux already has the ability to do all that funky stuff why pay and bother. |
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Wily_One
Premium
join:2002-11-24
San Jose, CA | reply to balloonshark
To answer the OP, I'd never buy anything site unseen. I'll let the OS hit the market and get a good shakedown before I would even consider buying it. |
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balloonshark
Lets Go Mountaineers
join:2006-08-11
WV
| reply to balloonshark
Just an update. I did order the Premium upgrade but will think about the whole transition for a couple of months.
Windows 7 requires 16GB to install while I have XP HOME and 3 snapshots in about 19GB total. One of those snapshots is for gaming.
Running XP sorta feels like a pair of old blue jeans and anything new just wouldn't feel right. I like the idea that Vista and 7 make running as a LUA easier but I don't like the size of the OS. In the end it will come down to the priorities of the individual.
Maybe it's time to move on but at least I'm in no hurry. I also feel that I'm not alone from some of the replies.
Thanks all!
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ultracooldave
@verizon.net
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You may have a problem running games and programs on anything above XP-but, XP Home?-NO, you need XP Proff. Sp3 the best OS there is unless you really want to upgrade your gaming, then use Vista Ultimate SP1 if your software will work with it.
Win 7 I have found to be unstable. Do yourself a favor and spend the money for the full version CD's and do a clean install, image your active partition with acronis TI, reserve a partition for just the OS and programs like 50Gig, use another partition for massive data, that way it only takes a few minutes to re-write your OS partition from a good earlier image if you get any problems like malware, harddrive failure, bad updates/software installs.
I know you won't take this advice so the alternative is regularly "fixing" your computer, searching around forums for ways to solve problems. something I have not had any need for many years with 9 computers and 15 operating systems all working perfectly all the time.
It amazes me the number of people who tolerate their computers not working perfectly, the huge benefit of a clean install from a full CD is you are getting all the files you need in perfect condition, you want to do everything you can not to change them! For some time now the first thing I do with a new computer is get rid of all the crap with a clean install ( one of the 2 Os's listed above) and download the drivers you need, make an image of this first install and proceed to install programs, make another full image and so on, if you find problems go back to a prior image and try again since it only takes a few minutes. |
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balloonshark
Lets Go Mountaineers
join:2006-08-11
WV
| I do have an external HDD for imaging but I'm lazy about how often I do it. I also have FD-ISR but it won't work with Windows 7. It's one of the main reasons I'm so comfortable with XP.
I did image my install phases of XP and I will do the same with 7. I've learned from hanging out on security forums that removing malware is crazy when an image does a better job.
My current install is on a 60GB partition and I have a data partition an extra room for whatever. This is also my first XP mildly nlited install and has been running ok for over a year. My last machine ran for 3 years on the same OEM install.
You are right, imaging is priceless! I've been using the free Seagate Disc Wizard (ATI) but it doesn't appear compatible with Windows 7 yet so I'll keep an eye on it's progress.
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ultracooldave
@verizon.net
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Sounds like you are one of the minority who has said bye bye to fixing computers that don't work, I don't know about seagate but I don't believe there is an OS you cannot image with TI Home Ver11, I even image several installs of Leopard even though windows cannot read the file system- it does a sector by sector image so it does not matter what the file system is- I find this much better and faster than using time machine, but I cannot see how you could not go back to XP if you have a valid image. Thats the fun of using imaging-if you don't like it you can wipe it and get back to where you were before without any activation or install problems.
I have gone back to XP with my main computer- I enjoy having only 1 click to turn off my network rather than 6 or 7 with Vista. I would make another image before you install win7. |
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Fishead1
Premium
join:2001-05-08
Bronx, NY
| ultracooldave you seem to be very organized.I applaud you in having everything worked out and gone thru the trouble of setting that all up.I don't think balloonshark is in the minority,he is more in the majority and you are in the minority and I don't mean that in a bad way.
But I think you would agree that a lot of us avoid the obvious like backing up your important stuff offline.We are lazy mofo's.
I write down passwords and such in a note book that I keep under my pillow.
So go easy on us please. |
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howie
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-08
Little Falls, NJ
| reply to balloonshark
said by balloonshark : I've been using the free Seagate Disc Wizard (ATI) but it doesn't appear compatible with Windows 7 yet so I'll keep an eye on it's progress. Although DiscWizard (a "lite" Acronis True Image 10) may not work inside Windows 7, you should be able to just boot the Recovery CD and image/restore your Windows 7 NTFS partition from there. |
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RICK JAMES
join:2002-11-29
Buffalo, NY
|  reply to balloonshark
I have XP and I'm currently running XP Home SP3 OEM and I'm very comfortable with my setup and security.
I have tried Vista does not work for all the programs nor is an stable have tryied 7 it ok some impressed with it.  |
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ultracooldave
@verizon.net
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I have learned to only do imaging from the recovery CD, I also do not do incremental imaging anymore after a couple of fails and the large file sizes, so now I keep the OS and programs on a separate partition (30GIG) which only takes about 10 minutes to backup or restore and I do it once a month for my main computer and maybe once every 6 months for my other computers. My data partitions I don't image anymore- I simply keep video/pictures files on 2 or more computers now. Important files like my MS Money/Quicken I keep a realtime backup on an ext. harddrive every time I use it.
After having 5 hard drive failures earlier in the year (all seagate inc. 2 replacements) you have to assume HD failure is a real possibility these days so its essential to image. |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
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·AT&T Midwest
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I have been beta testing Windows 7 for a while on an old 1.2Ghz processor with 1.5GB of memory 20gb hard drive and a dvd drive.
for the most part and surfing the web it would be just fine for. It takes a small amount of time to move around a bit but it was doing rather well for such an old machine. I can't see Windows 7 dragging down my core 2 duo 2.5Ghz laptop with 3GB memory. If that older machine didn't have many issues I don't forsee my laptop having any.
Main machines I think I might be worried about will be my desktop machine (p4 3Ghz, 3GB memory) and maybe the front room machine (p4-2ghz, 2GB memory) . The other machines I won't be too worried about as they will be scrapped.
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howie
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-08
Little Falls, NJ
2 edits | reply to balloonshark
I just noticed Windows 7 has native H.264/TS/M2TS support. This is great news for me as my Hauppauge HD-PVR records in the M2TS format. I had to install special codecs and hack the registry to get these files to display thumbnails and play in Vista's Media Center and Media Player. Nice move on Microsoft's part. |
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Fishead1
Premium
join:2001-05-08
Bronx, NY | You sure thats not a Mac howie??? |
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Reno
Premium
join:2008-10-26
Keller, TX | reply to balloonshark
Dang what is that Howie - a 17" square tube screen?  |
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Dustyn
Premium
join:2003-02-26
Ontario, CAN | 600 x 480 ??  |
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howie
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-08
Little Falls, NJ
2 edits | LOL.... no, 1280X1024, 19". I mainly use my secondary 32" 1920X1080 HDTV display (via HDMI) for watching movies.
I do find my Samsung 19" "square" display is just fine for everyday computing, though. |
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