[WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? in Microsoft Help http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22690141 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:50:48 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:50:48 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22716266 howie : LOL.... no, 1280X1024, 19". I mainly use my secondary 32" 1920X1080 HDTV display (via HDMI) for watching movies.
I do find my Samsung 19" "square" display is just fine for everyday computing, though.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22702975 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:40:29 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22700938 David : I have been beta testing Windows 7 for a while on an old 1.2Ghz processor with 1.5GB of memory 20gb hard drive and a dvd drive.

for the most part and surfing the web it would be just fine for. It takes a small amount of time to move around a bit but it was doing rather well for such an old machine. I can't see Windows 7 dragging down my core 2 duo 2.5Ghz laptop with 3GB memory. If that older machine didn't have many issues I don't forsee my laptop having any.

Main machines I think I might be worried about will be my desktop machine (p4 3Ghz, 3GB memory) and maybe the front room machine (p4-2ghz, 2GB memory) . The other machines I won't be too worried about as they will be scrapped.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22700938 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:36:11 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22700516 anon : I have learned to only do imaging from the recovery CD, I also do not do incremental imaging anymore after a couple of fails and the large file sizes, so now I keep the OS and programs on a separate partition (30GIG) which only takes about 10 minutes to backup or restore and I do it once a month for my main computer and maybe once every 6 months for my other computers. My data partitions I don't image anymore- I simply keep video/pictures files on 2 or more computers now. Important files like my MS Money/Quicken I keep a realtime backup on an ext. harddrive every time I use it.
After having 5 hard drive failures earlier in the year (all seagate inc. 2 replacements) you have to assume HD failure is a real possibility these days so its essential to image.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22700516 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:48:08 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22700261 RICK JAMES : I have XP and I'm currently running XP Home SP3 OEM and I'm very comfortable with my setup and security.
I have tried Vista does not work for all the programs nor is an stable have tryied 7 it ok some impressed with it. :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22700261 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:10:34 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697807 howie :
said by balloonshark See Profile :

I've been using the free Seagate Disc Wizard (ATI) but it doesn't appear compatible with Windows 7 yet so I'll keep an eye on it's progress.
Although DiscWizard (a "lite" Acronis True Image 10) may not work inside Windows 7, you should be able to just boot the Recovery CD and image/restore your Windows 7 NTFS partition from there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697807 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:59:43 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697786 Fishead1 : ultracooldave you seem to be very organized.I applaud you in having everything worked out and gone thru the trouble of setting that all up.I don't think balloonshark is in the minority,he is more in the majority and you are in the minority and I don't mean that in a bad way.
But I think you would agree that a lot of us avoid the obvious like backing up your important stuff offline.We are lazy mofo's.
I write down passwords and such in a note book that I keep under my pillow. :)
So go easy on us please. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697786 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:37:09 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697525 anon : Sounds like you are one of the minority who has said bye bye to fixing computers that don't work, I don't know about seagate but I don't believe there is an OS you cannot image with TI Home Ver11, I even image several installs of Leopard even though windows cannot read the file system- it does a sector by sector image so it does not matter what the file system is- I find this much better and faster than using time machine, but I cannot see how you could not go back to XP if you have a valid image. Thats the fun of using imaging-if you don't like it you can wipe it and get back to where you were before without any activation or install problems.
I have gone back to XP with my main computer- I enjoy having only 1 click to turn off my network rather than 6 or 7 with Vista. I would make another image before you install win7.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697525 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:33:24 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697496 balloonshark : I do have an external HDD for imaging but I'm lazy about how often I do it. I also have FD-ISR but it won't work with Windows 7. It's one of the main reasons I'm so comfortable with XP.

I did image my install phases of XP and I will do the same with 7. I've learned from hanging out on security forums that removing malware is crazy when an image does a better job.

My current install is on a 60GB partition and I have a data partition an extra room for whatever. This is also my first XP mildly nlited install and has been running ok for over a year. My last machine ran for 3 years on the same OEM install.

You are right, imaging is priceless! I've been using the free Seagate Disc Wizard (ATI) but it doesn't appear compatible with Windows 7 yet so I'll keep an eye on it's progress.
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Win 7 I have found to be unstable. Do yourself a favor and spend the money for the full version CD's and do a clean install, image your active partition with acronis TI, reserve a partition for just the OS and programs like 50Gig, use another partition for massive data, that way it only takes a few minutes to re-write your OS partition from a good earlier image if you get any problems like malware, harddrive failure, bad updates/software installs.
I know you won't take this advice so the alternative is regularly "fixing" your computer, searching around forums for ways to solve problems. something I have not had any need for many years with 9 computers and 15 operating systems all working perfectly all the time.
It amazes me the number of people who tolerate their computers not working perfectly, the huge benefit of a clean install from a full CD is you are getting all the files you need in perfect condition, you want to do everything you can not to change them! For some time now the first thing I do with a new computer is get rid of all the crap with a clean install ( one of the 2 Os's listed above) and download the drivers you need, make an image of this first install and proceed to install programs, make another full image and so on, if you find problems go back to a prior image and try again since it only takes a few minutes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697387 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:36:16 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697441 balloonshark : Just an update. I did order the Premium upgrade but will think about the whole transition for a couple of months.

Windows 7 requires 16GB to install while I have XP HOME and 3 snapshots in about 19GB total. One of those snapshots is for gaming.

Running XP sorta feels like a pair of old blue jeans and anything new just wouldn't feel right. I like the idea that Vista and 7 make running as a LUA easier but I don't like the size of the OS. In the end it will come down to the priorities of the individual.

Maybe it's time to move on but at least I'm in no hurry. I also feel that I'm not alone from some of the replies.

Thanks all!
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said by howie See Profile :

Here is a concept video of what Windows 8 may look like:

Copenhagen User Experience from Copenhagen Concept on Vimeo.

[EDIT] I'd upgrade as you can always sell it for more than you paid. Microsoft WILL NOT offer any special offers on Windows 7 upgrades after today.
ya know whats funny about that video if you look at the menus they look like htey are macintosh ROFL

and linux already has the ability to do all that funky stuff why pay and bother.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697198 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:52:58 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697124 howie :
said by voip_user See Profile :

I believe that is still the case.
It is. :-)
»Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22697124 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:34:05 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696888 voip_user : I believe that is still the case -- when you buy Windows7 you get both the 32bit and 64bit versions]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696888 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:24:32 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696656 Vampirefo :
said by Fishead1 See Profile :

I have to agree with you Wolfie00.I would like to just upgrade to WIN XP PRO 64 bit version but I may hold off on even that.
Bill Gates loves to make you pay and pay for updated versions of the same OS with a lot of stuff thats been fixed from the VISTA OS and not a lot really new that is usable for most of us.
Its like they want to emulate MAC OS's.Looking pretty doesn't matter to me.
I have limited funds at the moment .I'm on a fixed income(SSI Disability)and it takes time to gather money for new build and new OS.
I won't upgrade until I "have" to.
I remember back when I was using XP MS used to give away the 64bit in an even trade for your 32bit license. Basically MS provided a download link that one could download the 64bit, and upgrade their 32 bit for free.

But I guess not that's not the case now.
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Best Regards Vampirefo ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696656 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:18:40 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696614 Dustyn : I believe the only issues you might encounter as others have mentioned here are primarily... 64-bit hardware device drivers or certain applications that just don't run properly without some hack like Apple ITunes. I wouldn't know or care as I don't use any Apple products. Also, software applications that run on Vista64/Windows 7 x64... may or may not run on XP64. Most applications will tell you specifically if it can run on XP64. But my XP64 rig is just chalk full of 64-bit applications that are designed for XP64. :) I don't need anything more!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696614 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:11:04 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696597 Fishead1 : Thanks Dustyn.I was kind of on the fence on wether to upgrade to WIN XP 64 but you just helped me decide in favor of it. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696597 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:06:18 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696587 Dustyn :
said by Fishead1 See Profile :

Just one final question.I see on Newegg WIN XP 64 bit version for system builders.What is meant by system builders Version.Do I need WIN XP 32 bit on PC before I install 64 bit version?
The price is at least reasonable.
A system builders OS is another name for "OEM". The discs operating system will be tied to your computers hardware. Not that big a deal to me. You do not need to have XP32 installed before upgrading to XP64. I'm not even sure if that is a valid way of upgrading? A clean install is the best way to install XP64... if it's not the only way. Also keep in mind that the LATEST Service Pack for Windows XP 64-bit Edition is Service Pack 2. It may also very well be the very last Service Pack for XP64. There is no SP3 for XP64. See if you can find copy of XP64 with SP2 included... that way you don't have to download and install it after the install.
NOTE: There are discs that offer SP2A, SP2B, SP2C... They are no different than SP2. They just contain additional product activation keys.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696587 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:02:32 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696547 Fishead1 : Just one final question.I see on Newegg WIN XP 64 bit version for system builders.What is meant by system builders Version.Do I need WIN XP 32 bit on PC before I install 64 bit version?
The price is at least reasonable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696547 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:51:42 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696540 Wolfie00 :
said by Fishead1 See Profile :

Getting old is a bitch.
Maybe. But every time Microsoft comes out with a new OS like ..ummmm... Windows ME, or Vista, the youngsters want to know "how soon can I get it? What do I need to run it?"

The oldsters who forgot where their glasses are nevertheless have the presence of mind to ask, "why should I get it? What does it do better that I actually need?"

Make no mistake, I was an early adopter of Windows XP -- I even ran early betas and absolutely loved it. When it was finally released I deployed it everywhere!

I see no such value with Vista or Vista SP3 aka Win 7. But then, I can't find my glasses, either! ;)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696540 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:48:54 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696137 Fishead1 : Thanks for the input guys.I'm just hard headed and set in my ways.
That happens when you get old. :)
Pretty soon i'll be looking for my glasses and wondering where i put them and they have been pushed up unto my head but I can't find em. :)
Getting old is a bitch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22696137 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:46:54 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695977 djrobx : It may or may not be an issue for you, but iTunes does not work "out of the box" on XP64. You can make it work but it requires hacking.

IMHO, if you have a machine with so much ram that you need XP64, it will probably handle Vista or Windows 7 just fine. 64 bit is just better supported on those OSes.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695977 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:07:10 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695780 Dustyn :
said by Fishead1 See Profile :

At this moment I'm sticking with WIN XP Pro but might upgrade to 64 biit version as i'm doing a new build with a AMD Phenom x4 with DDR3 memory(6 GB in 3 modules) and will need the 64 bit version to access all that memory.
Any feed back on anyone running 64 bit versions of WIN Xp and any difficulties with it?
I have a lot of old digital pictures on my old pc.Would I run into problems moving them over to 64 bit system?
I run XP64 on my rig and I've got 8.0GB Dual Channel PC2-6400 RAM. I have had little issues with XP64 compared to Vista Ultimate x64. You will probably have to search a bit more for 64-bit drivers, but my motherboard manufacturer had all the XP64 drivers I needed just in case. I found XP64 had most generic drivers for things like ethernet and sound. There are lots of drivers out there for XP64. ATi are still producing up to date 64-bit Radeon Catalyst drivers for my video card.
I don't see you encountering any issues moving your digital pics over from XP32 to XP64? Just transfer them to a CD or USB-Key first so you have a backup.

My specs for my rig running XP64 is here: Dustyn See Profile ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695780 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:13:48 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695741 Fishead1 : Its nice to have the money to keep up with these trends.
And I've been doing that for 15 years now.DOS (who knows how many vers.)Windows from way back.
If I had a lot of time to waste I'd go to Linux and educate myself on that.(I have tried a few versions)But theres a new learning curve with that and from doing Windows so long it seems counter- intuitive.
I don't like being a lemming and following everyone else.
Come on IBM and OS-2 !!! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695741 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:03:14 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695708 jabarnut : hehe...what ever my friend.

Funny you have no problem using Windows though.
Make a statement!
Stop using any Microsoft products at all!

That will show him, by golly!!! ;)

Once again folks, I'm done now...this time I promise.
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He is the Michael Jackson of Software . :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695687 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:49:48 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695657 FiL : "with the 3rd service pack for XP, that puts the OS to what it should have been when it was released. now the OS is at its end of life for major support."

your joking, right? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695657 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:40:00 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695651 jabarnut :
said by Fishead1 See Profile :

Bill Gates loves to make you pay and pay for updated versions of the same OS with a lot of stuff thats been fixed from the VISTA OS and not a lot really new that is usable for most of us....
I doubt Bill Gates even cares these days...he has other interests that are much more important to him now.

Steve Ballmer on the other hand, may care...really hard to tell with that guy. :D

I still get a kick out of how the ol' "greedy Bill Gates" is still to blame for everything though.....he's probably over in Africa somewhere about now, and doesn't even have a Laptop at his disposal.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has done some truly amazing things.

(Ok, sorry folks, back on topic) ;)
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Bill Gates loves to make you pay and pay for updated versions of the same OS with a lot of stuff thats been fixed from the VISTA OS and not a lot really new that is usable for most of us.
Its like they want to emulate MAC OS's.Looking pretty doesn't matter to me.
I have limited funds at the moment .I'm on a fixed income(SSI Disability)and it takes time to gather money for new build and new OS.
I won't upgrade until I "have" to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695627 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:30:05 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695387 royphil345 :
said by jeff3120 See Profile :

I ordered from Amazon and while I don't know if Amazon will let me cancel my order, their price guarantee will give me the lower price (if Microsoft comes out with a better deal) before my upgrades ships.
Amazon did away with their price matching guarantee a couple months ago. Just letting you know so you don't count on it in the future.

The only price protection they offer now is if you pre-order an item and Amazon lowers their own price before they're able to ship it. Then, you get the lower price.

»www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/···uarantee]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695387 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:35:13 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695219 Wolfie00 :
said by Carbon Unit See Profile :

Im sure Steve Ballmer will

(youtube clip)
Christ, thanks for reminding me why I didn't buy this upgrade! :D

Seriously, I thought about it, but I really only have one computer that could easily run it, and that's my son's gaming computer. All the rest are happily on XP and will stay that way. The gaming computer (running XP) has lots and lots of applications installed and loads of special drivers which I slipstreamed when doing the initial XP install. Is it really worth the hassle of going to Win 7 and having lots of stuff break? I concluded no.

As far as I'm concerned Win 7 is just a version of Vista that works, and suffers from the same [lack of] value proposition relative to XP. If we run into a roadblock sometime down the road where Win 7 becomes a mandatory platform for gaming, or we build our computer again instead of buying one that would come with Win 7, the worst that will happen IF that ever happens is I'll pay twice as much for the upgrade.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695219 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:46:29 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695111 alchav : If you are happy with Windows XP/SP3, I would not worry about it especially if you're not Techy and can't work on your own computer. With major upgrades like this it's a good time to build a new computer, then you can load and try to run all your favorite Programs. Once you get all the bugs worked out then you can swap the CPU's and go live!

For the majority of the people, they should wait and buy a computer with Windows 7 loaded. If you are going to upgrade, then I would recommend a new HDD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695111 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:18:35 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695060 siljaline : Win 7, is Vista SP3 howie See Profile ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22695060 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:05:09 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694800 Vampirefo : I would think you would be fine with XP for at least five more years so time is not an issue, you don't need Win7. If I used windows I would wait, I'm a Linux user so doesn't matter either way to me.

You could have been beta testing Win7 on your setup, so you would know exactly how the OS and your system gets along.

Again I would wait no rush MS will make enough of them never heard of MS running out of copies. So just enjoy your setup read about other people's failure or success with Win7.
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said by lostsoul187 See Profile :

you do realize that the upgrade will only upgrade vista, and up, not xp right, you read the fine print? had a preorder through the beta for 45$, but it is only the upgrade and will only upgrade if you have vista. If i'm not mistaken
from the ms store:
Running earlier versions?
If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. But you must back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694776 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:41:59 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694769 lostsoul187 : you do realize that the upgrade will only upgrade vista, and up, not xp right, you read the fine print? had a preorder through the beta for 45$, but it is only the upgrade and will only upgrade if you have vista. If i'm not mistaken
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»www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk


»www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8IufkbuD0
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said by Carbon Unit See Profile :

said by howie See Profile :

I don't think anyone has to worry about any price drop on Windows 7 upgrades... this offer is done, fin, finito! ;-)

Nice to know you would get the lower price, though...

[EDIT] The next good deal on Windows 7 will be the "system builders" OEM full versions available from places like Newegg, where you can expect to save about 50%, compared to the same retail full versions.
Oh yeah, then there are the offers from online software dealers in Eastern Europe such as "Vladimir's Software" where they ship in 8-10 weeks Those don't count... :o
The deal is most likely not over, they will be releasing the windows 7 family pack which is 3 copies for about $150
Yes, you're correct...
I haven't heard any definitive word on pricing for this yet, but did see one site that mentioned $189 and I assume this will be discounted by some retailers (the $150 you've mentioned seems reasonable). In any event, it's for use on 3 PC's in the same household by those residing there.
You can bet there will be no further offers to the general public on single copies of Windows 7 Professional or Home Premium Upgrade pre-orders. When Microsoft states a pre-order offer ends on a certain date, that's it.

Don't expect Vince or Sully Sullivan to be selling this on TV any time soon. :D

"Here's how to order!"
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said by Carbon Unit See Profile :

The deal is most likely not over, they will be releasing the windows 7 family pack which is 3 copies for about $150
That's true, but I wasn't interested in spending $150.00.

On the other hand, the $50.00 I spent fit nicely into my "budget". ;)

Although, maybe you could buy the family pack, and sell the other two? (Not sure if it works that way :hmm:).
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said by howie See Profile :

I don't think anyone has to worry about any price drop on Windows 7 upgrades... this offer is done, fin, finito! ;-)

Nice to know you would get the lower price, though...

[EDIT] The next good deal on Windows 7 will be the "system builders" OEM full versions available from places like Newegg, where you can expect to save about 50%, compared to the same retail full versions.
Oh yeah, then there are the offers from online software dealers in Eastern Europe such as "Vladimir's Software" where they ship in 8-10 weeks Those don't count... :o
The deal is most likely not over, they will be releasing the windows 7 family pack which is 3 copies for about $150]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694597 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:51:12 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694541 rob_in_chatt : why get another OS from microsoft? they have a long history of releasing incomplete garbage that takes them on average 5 years and 3 service packs to fix.

with the 3rd service pack for XP, that puts the OS to what it should have been when it was released. now the OS is at its end of life for major support.

vista is junk, and it will be junk until they put out 2 more updated service packs. i just do not understand why they released another OS. a complete waste of time and money in my opinion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694541 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:36:11 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694515 KickMe :
said by dustman81 See Profile :

said by KickMe See Profile :

said by jeff3120 See Profile :

I ordered from Amazon and while I don't know if Amazon will let me cancel my order, their price guarantee will give me the lower price (if Microsoft comes out with a better deal) before my upgrades ships.
I am sure Amazon will let you cancel before shipment, but their 30 day price guarantee was discontinued on September 1, 2008.
I also pre-ordered Win7 though Amazon and they stated as I was ordering that if the price drops between now and the day they ship it to me, I will automatically get the lower price.
That is great, and I am happy since I too pre-ordered a couple of copies at Amazon (which I will be selling on Ebay next year to help cover the cost of a TechNet subscription). But as Howie alluded to, it's like saying if it snows in Miami Florida on the 4th of July, you get it for half price.

From what I have seen, Win 7 is like XP on steroids. Nearly everyone who has evaluated it gives it four stars, and most were "drooling" over the Betas that seemed rock solid. I also of the opinion that Microsoft believes it has made a pretty good operating system, addressed what bugged Vista users and is giving everyone a chance to get onboard for a reasonable cost.
Too, I am betting that MS will drop support for XP as soon as possible, and while I am sure many XP users will say they don't care, it's too risky for most people to have a systems subject to exploits by hackers.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694515 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:28:51 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694507 howie :
said by lordpuffer See Profile :

Again...I was mistaken about that.
No problem... I'm mistaken a lot! ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694507 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:26:37 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694484 lordpuffer : Again...I was mistaken about that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694484 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:19:50 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694477 howie :
said by lordpuffer See Profile :

I did the preorder about 2 weeks ago at around $50....I believed that I had to choose 64 bit at that price for my system, but I could be wrong.
Nope, you'll get both, even at the special price... (see above). :-)
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694477 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:18:36 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694460 lordpuffer : I did the preorder about 2 weeks ago at around $50....I believed that I had to choose 64 bit at that price for my system, but I could be wrong.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694456 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:09:22 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694426 lordpuffer : Sorry if I misunderstood.....I thought you only got one, even if you ordered the physical media.
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said by lordpuffer See Profile :

I ordered my upgrade directly from Microsoft, and they told me that you can do a clean install. Home Premium does come in either 32 or 64 bit....I do not believe you get both though....You have to select one of them.
If you ordered the physical media, you'll get both and I'm sure you can download both as well, if you chose the download only (or download/ship).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694411 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:51:31 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694405 howie :
said by siljaline See Profile :

I would wait for the first or second service pack, but that's just me :p
Shhhhhhhhh... don't tell anyone but Windows 7 is Vista SP3. Go ahead and order! ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694405 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:49:36 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694363 lordpuffer : I ordered my upgrade directly from Microsoft, and they told me that you can do a clean install. Home Premium does come in either 32 or 64 bit....I do not believe you get both though....You have to select one of them.
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I would wait for the first or second service pack, but that's just me :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694361 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:37:26 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694323 howie : I don't think anyone has to worry about any price drop on Windows 7 upgrades... this offer is done, fin, finito! ;-)

Nice to know you would get the lower price, though...

[EDIT] The next good deal on Windows 7 will be the "system builders" OEM full versions available from places like Newegg, where you can expect to save about 50%, compared to the same retail full versions.
Oh yeah, then there are the offers from online software dealers in Eastern Europe such as "Vladimir's Software" where they ship in 8-10 weeks Those don't count... :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694323 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:23:59 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694259 dustman81 :
said by KickMe See Profile :

said by jeff3120 See Profile :

I ordered from Amazon and while I don't know if Amazon will let me cancel my order, their price guarantee will give me the lower price (if Microsoft comes out with a better deal) before my upgrades ships.
I am sure Amazon will let you cancel before shipment, but their 30 day price guarantee was discontinued on September 1, 2008.
I also pre-ordered Win7 though Amazon and they stated as I was ordering that if the price drops between now and the day they ship it to me, I will automatically get the lower price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694259 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:05:29 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694236 MGD King :
said by balloonshark See Profile :

1. What advantages would I get from 7?
The way that Win7 handles memory is light years ahead of XP and/or Vista, especially if you use the 64 bit capability of your processor (which will see and use all 4GB of your memory).

If you have a spare hard drive laying around, install 7 on it (after unplugging your main/WinXP drive) and experiment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694236 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:58:19 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694150 v35_pilot :
said by Barbara Ann See Profile :

To both Dustyn and OZO - both of you convinced me stay with WinXP SP3. I am really happy with its' performance. All the extra programs I have installed work perfectly with XP.
For good or bad I justified the upgrade purchase by believing that if Win7 does become a big hit, software and hardware vendors may finally leave behind XP to concentrate their attention on the latest OS.

However, I do have XP "dialed in" and running well on several computers around the house.

Maybe it is just time to learn something else, too. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694150 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:19:49 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694066 markopoleo : Keep in mind its not a "deal" you are getting. Its just a random promotion MS is putting out right now early.

On release day you can expect same such items. OEM version of WIn 7 will be VERY cheap so its not something you need to rush out right now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22694066 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:32:47 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693984 b_p_smith : Look at it this way, you pay the $50 and eventually you'll get your package. If by then you've decided to upgrade, you've saved money. If you've decided not, you'll have *no* problem selling your unopened box and recoup your "investment". Or, if you're waffling still, stick the box on a shelf and wait a while.
Unless Win7 turns out to be a major nightmare and dies a sudden death, you almost can't lose.
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Any feed back on anyone running 64 bit versions of WIN Xp and any difficulties with it?
I have a lot of old digital pictures on my old pc.Would I run into problems moving them over to 64 bit system?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693827 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:33:50 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693791 Barbara Ann : To both Dustyn and OZO - both of you convinced me stay with WinXP SP3. I am really happy with its' performance. All the extra programs I have installed work perfectly with XP.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693791 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:05:27 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693499 Fat City : Will you be able to clean install a W7 upgrade version like you could with Vista upgrade disks?

Does W7 home premium include both disks---32 & 64 bit?

I already have Ultimate x64 installed, but I prefer a clean install of a new OS.

Edit: The offer is now dead. Found answers to my questions and decided to pass on the $50 upgrade deal. I'll stay with Vista for a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693499 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:31:14 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693451 KickMe :
said by jeff3120 See Profile :

I ordered from Amazon and while I don't know if Amazon will let me cancel my order, their price guarantee will give me the lower price (if Microsoft comes out with a better deal) before my upgrades ships.
I am sure Amazon will let you cancel before shipment, but their 30 day price guarantee was discontinued on September 1, 2008.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693451 Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:13:25 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693176 Zoder : Well what I'd be looking out for is an update to "The Ultimate Steal" product line. Right now you can get Vista Ultimate upgrade for $64.95 if you have an .edu email address.

But who knows if/when Microsoft will update the offerings to Windows 7 and Office 14. I doubt before 2010.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22693176 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:48:49 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692969 howie : You're welcome. :-)

One thing you can be sure of is that MS is not like Ashampoo and will not have any more "special offers" like this before (or after) this thing goes RTM. You can bet a retail upgrade license for Home Premium is going to go for $90-$100 or more when it becomes available at your favorite B&M or online store. This offer is a no-brainer, IMHO.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692969 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:57:46 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692874 balloonshark : Thank you all for your replies and support! I appreciate every one because they gave me more to think about.

Also thanks goes to jabarnut for your humor as I needed a laugh. And thanks to howie for the links for the possible sneak peek at Windows 8.

I think I'm going to go flip a coin but if I buy the upgrade I could always sell it. That would give me plenty of time to decide before it ships.

Also, why in the world are we still using a mouse rather than talking to these new operating systems?

Thanks once again to you all :).
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Copenhagen User Experience from Copenhagen Concept on Vimeo.

[EDIT] I'd upgrade as you can always sell it for more than you paid. Microsoft WILL NOT offer any special offers on Windows 7 upgrades after today.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692367 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:48:11 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692301 jabarnut : Yes....for the price, why not.

Personally, I love XP too.
I have XP Pro on two machines, and Vista on two others. (One Vista Ultimate, and one Vista Home Premium).
For that matter, I like Vista as well.

But hey, I still ordered Windows 7 while the "special deal" was offered.....lets keep up with the times folks. ;)

You can always decide you don't want it later on.
Of course, by that time, we'll probably be wondering if it's worth an upgrade to Windows 8 (Or Windows Future, or Windows Star Trek....what ever they decide to call it).

Oops...is the deal already over at the time of my post?
If so, stick with XP. :D
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said by Zoder See Profile :

My question is will Amazon let you cancel if Microsoft happens to announce a better promotion vbefore it ships?
I would hope so. I know Costco will since I cancelled one version and ordered another. They told me I could cancel right up to the day it ships.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692274 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:16:07 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692142 Zoder : My question is will Amazon let you cancel if Microsoft happens to announce a better promotion vbefore it ships?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692142 Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:39:40 EDT Re: [WIN7] Windows 7 upgrade last day. Should I upgrade? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22692025 OZO :
said by balloonshark See Profile :

Hi, I'm currently running XP Home SP3 OEM and I'm very comfortable with my setup and security.
Why break things that work well for you now? Is there any particular reason?

I'd stay with your option #3.
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Go for it. You can always dual boot. Put a second hard drive in your system or make another partition.

MnR
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I'm running a Q6600 Quad core overclocked to 3GH with 4GB of RAM. My graphics card is a GeForce 8500GT and the Windows 7 advisor says I'm good to go.

1. What advantages would I get from 7?
2. Could I run the games I have been running on XP?
3. Should I stay with XP and wait for the next OS since updates are good until 2014?
4. Can I run a VM while using Windows 7?

Any other thoughts, opinions or other things I should consider are welcomed and encouraged.

Thank you!


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