  JPower
@comcast.net
| Will Linksys PAP2 work with Phone Power?
Hi All,
On the Phone Power website, it says that Linksys PAP2T will work but nothing about the earlier PAP2 version. Anybody out there that knows?
I'm an existing CallVantage customer and now planning to choose Phone Power but didn't want to spend another $15 for their Grandstream (leased) S&H fee. Plus, I have this Linksys PAP2 sitting in the shrink wrap unopened so wanted to use that instead.
Thanks, JP |
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  PhonePwrTech
join:2007-07-20
| The PAP2 family of devices by Linksys is rather large, with several different renditions and models present. The PAP2T-NA is listed on our website as a supported model because it is the only member of that family that is guaranteed to be unlocked by default. |
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  JPower
@avaya.com
| Thanks - so I have two adapters - DLink DCOM502 and Linksys PAP2
Is there anyway I can try it out before I buy Phone Power with a test account? I have admin passwords for both devices.
I just wanted to avoid shipping costs with Grandstream. Is there a promotional offer or code with free shipping? If there is, then I don't mind going with Grandstream (which is provided by Phone Power).
Thanks, Jatin |
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  PhonePower Premium join:2007-07-20 Winnetka, CA
1 edit | reply to JPower There is a 30 day satisfaction guarantee during which you can break your contract and only pay 1 month. You can also sign up for NO CONTRACT and switch to a contract down the road. Beware that teh 2nd year free offer is only available within the first 30 days of being a new client.
You can always ask for a unit to be shipped if you have issues with your BYOD. |
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  JPower
@avaya.com | Thanks - I will give that a shot first. What codec is used with your service? Is it G.729? This way I can determine if I should get Grandstream or not.
Thanks, Jatin |
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  44402812 Hack The Planet Premium join:2006-08-28 Plattsburgh, NY
| said by JPower :
Thanks - I will give that a shot first. What codec is used with your service? Is it G.729? This way I can determine if I should get Grandstream or not.
Thanks, Jatin If you would like to change your codec to use less bandwidth, you may choose the G729a codec below. Please note that this will provide a lower sound quality than our G711u codec.
G711u uses approximately 128kb/s of bandwidth, G729a uses approximately 16kb/s.
PLEASE NOTE: This change will not go into effect until you power cycle your ATA device. |
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 Stewart
join:2005-07-13
·PHONE POWER
| reply to JPower When I first got the Phone Power service, I did some testing to see what devices were compatible (to ensure that I had a suitable replacement in case my SPA failed, or it was lost or stolen).
Unfortunately, my PAP2 was unable to pull the initial provisioning file. It appears that the provisioning server has a certificate signed by "Sipura Technology Provisioning Root Authority", but that CA is not among those known to the PAP2 firmware. See attached screenshot. I'm running v3.1.22, which is the latest I could find with Google, though it's possible that a more recent firmware is available to Phone Power that would not have this problem. Otherwise, it is fairly easy to fix this at the server. |
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 Stewart
join:2005-07-13
·PHONE POWER
| reply to PhonePwrTech said by PhonePwrTech :The PAP2 family of devices by Linksys is rather large, with several different renditions and models present. The PAP2T-NA is listed on our website as a supported model because it is the only member of that family that is guaranteed to be unlocked by default. There are three groups of similar models: SPA2102(-xx), PAP2T(-xx), and PAP2(-xx). By PAP2, I'm referring to V1 hardware only -- the V2 is a different animal.
Compared to the SPA2102, the PAP2T lacks the router function; the PAP2 lacks both router and T.38 fax. Also, the PAP2 firmware (AFAIK) does not have some of the recently added config options, e.g. DTMF Tx Strict Hold Off Time.
All three are available in -NA versions, which are not locked by the factory, though it's conceivable that if a unit was previously used with another provider, Protect_IVR_FactoryReset might be set, in which case it could be very difficult for the user to unlock.
If the suffix is -R or -R1, a unit is "remotely customized" and probably locked to another provider, unless the user was able to obtain the admin password or unlock it somehow.
Other suffixes indicate factory customization for a specific provider; absence of a suffix usually designates a Vonage unit.
IMO, Phone Power should permit the use of (unlocked) PAP2 (V1) devices, with the caveat that fax performance is likely to be poor or perhaps unusable. |
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 moinkhan
join:2007-11-15 Mableton, GA
1 edit | reply to JPower Are resync urls for PAP2T-NA and PAP2 V2 same? I have an unlocked Linksys PAP2 v2, but the provisioning url that I received from Phone Power is giving me a 404 error [by the phone adapter].
Below is what I received from Phone Power, which supports only T - NA, and I wanted to see if I could use v2 instead. »InsertDeviceIpHere/admin/resync?···_REMOVED
BTW, I have replaced "InsertDeviceIpHere" with the IP of the phone adapter. |
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 Stewart
join:2005-07-13
·PHONE POWER
| If your PAP2 has old firmware (not 3.x), the resync URL is different. IIRC, it was InsertDeviceIpHere/resync?...
If that is your issue, try upgrading the firmware. I found what I believe is the latest 3.1.23(LS) here: »www.inphonex.com/support/linksys···tion.php However, I haven't tried this code; you are upgrading at your own risk.
Next, you need Provision Enable to be on for the resync URL to work (clear the profile rules so it doesn't try to pull a config from a former provider).
Finally, unless the latest code has the missing cert, or PP has changed things on their end, you will likely run into the trouble described in my earlier post in this thread. |
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 moinkhan
join:2007-11-15 Mableton, GA | Thanks, Stewart. I'll check the firmware, and upgrade it, if not 3x. I had trouble locating the "provision setting", but I will look again. I'll let you know how it goes. |
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 Stewart
join:2005-07-13
·PHONE POWER
| said by moinkhan :I'll let you know how it goes. Did you get the PAP2 working? If not, please describe current symptoms. |
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 moinkhan
join:2007-11-15 Mableton, GA | Looks like I am unable to log in as admin (not sure if it auto updated something or not). So, I hadn't been able to upgrade the firmware yet. |
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 Stewart
join:2005-07-13
·PHONE POWER
| said by moinkhan :Looks like I am unable to log in as admin (not sure if it auto updated something or not). Because it is requesting a password you don't know? Or some other problem?said by moinkhan : So, I hadn't been able to upgrade the firmware yet. What does the Info page show for Customization? For Software Version? Can you reset the unit via IVR? (If you try this, don't let it do any further updates.) Any other info about this unit's history that may be relevant? |
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 moinkhan
join:2007-11-15 Mableton, GA
1 edit | Sorry for the late reply.
I didn't remember the login credentials; I am able to get to admin page again.
Apparently, 3.1.23(LS) is for PAP2-NA, not v2. Nonetheless, I tried to upgrade it from web interface, but it did not seem to work. The interface tends to do something, but when it's done (don't get a confirmation or anything), I still see Firmware Version: 1.00.16 on my device.
Here's the link to upgrade interface.
»pap2v2IP/cgi-bin/webcm?getpage=%···ate.html
I have also tried to run "upg-pap2-3-1-23-LS.exe", but the progress bar just keeps on switching back and forth.
Some other history about my PAP2 v2... I had it with vonage, and unlocked it using cyt 3.5 for Windows. |
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 Stewart
join:2005-07-13
·PHONE POWER
| The PAP2V2 is an entirely different animal from PAP2 or PAP2T. The processor is not even the same architecture; the OS is Linux on PAP2V2, proprietary on the others.
The version numbers are completely different; while it's likely that the firmware you have is adequate for operation with Phone Power, a PAP2V2 won't read a Phone Power config file intended for a PAP2T, so you would have to configure everything manually, and you wouldn't have the benefit of any automatic updates.
It's probably safest to get a device supported by PP, or have them provide you with their Grandstream adapter. |
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 crashoverride
join:2009-09-05
| said by Stewart :The PAP2V2 is an entirely different animal from PAP2 or PAP2T. The processor is not even the same architecture; the OS is Linux on PAP2V2, proprietary on the others. The version numbers are completely different; while it's likely that the firmware you have is adequate for operation with Phone Power, a PAP2V2 won't read a Phone Power config file intended for a PAP2T, so you would have to configure everything manually, and you wouldn't have the benefit of any automatic updates. It's probably safest to get a device supported by PP, or have them provide you with their Grandstream adapter. Yup, and not only that if something breaks you have the added benefit of blaming Dave, HA! Seriously though they know their Grandsteams inside and out so might be easier to save yourself a visit from Murphy? |
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