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sonicmerlin
join:2009-05-24
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Re: If the facts dont fit...

This is so true. It's like listening to conservative Christians call laws supporting the teaching of evolution in schools a "liberal bias".

I hate it when obviously biased conservatives claim "bias" when sites demonstrate *facts* that support liberal claims, and then point to far more deceitful sources of right-wing information.
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I could cite data demonstrating the absolute idiocy of your doom and gloom predictions but I really feel like I'd be wasting my time talking into a wall.

As for openbox, I'm sure you'd love to cut socialistic programs. That would help the rich a great deal wouldn't it?
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His arguments are *not* well-reasoned and worth consideration. You've simply avoided conflict by ignoring the *obvious* conflicts of interest and faulty logic, refusing to point them out for fear of insulting him.

It's disgusting really. The intellectual back-slapping made me want to barf. You need to be more poignant with your arguments or no one will listen to you.

What it boils down to is openbox wants the government to cut all programs that aid the poor while burdening the rich, and institute a flat tax across the board so rich people end up paying less.

He wholly favors the rich at the expense of the poor, and were his ideas put into practice the already wide gap between rich and poor would increase to make the Grand Canyon seem like a crack in the floor.

Honestly he is so disagreeably biased I feel embarrassed to be living in the same country as him. It's people like him that screwed up our country over the last 8 years.
sonicmerlin

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Yes I'm sure you're not opposed to monopoly/duopoly ISPs adding metered billing to pad their profit margins.

Also your reasons for not using consumption-based tax revenue are so appallingly and unethically cruel to the poor I have to question your basic humanity.
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said by sonicmerlin:

As for openbox, I'm sure you'd love to cut socialistic programs. That would help the rich a great deal wouldn't it?
I'm not rich by any stretch, nor am I benefiting from any social programs, so it's not just the rich that benefit. While there are no doubt beneficial social programs funded by our fed government, more often than not the programs appear abused and wasteful.
openbox9

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Wow, so why don't you tell us how you really feel. While you're at it, why don't you suggest a couple of viable options to actually fix some of the problems with our country's financial situation.
said by sonicmerlin:

His arguments are *not* well-reasoned and worth consideration. You've simply avoided conflict by ignoring the *obvious* conflicts of interest and faulty logic, refusing to point them out for fear of insulting him.
Says the person that's added nothing tangible to the discussion. Don't worry, you aren't going to insult me.
said by sonicmerlin:

What it boils down to is openbox wants the government to cut all programs that aid the poor while burdening the rich, and institute a flat tax across the board so rich people end up paying less.
And where did you pull that from. I've never once stated that, nor do I desire it.
said by sonicmerlin:

He wholly favors the rich at the expense of the poor
Actually, I favor myself at the expense of everyone, but that's beside the point
said by sonicmerlin:

were his ideas put into practice the already wide gap between rich and poor would increase to make the Grand Canyon seem like a crack in the floor.
How so?
said by sonicmerlin:

Honestly he is so disagreeably biased I feel embarrassed to be living in the same country as him.
At least you have an unbiased open mind, otherwise this discussion might have decayed into name calling and pointless rambling.
said by sonicmerlin:

It's people like him that screwed up our country over the last 8 years.
I beg your pardon. How exactly have I screwed up this country over the last eight years? Considering you don't know me, what I do, or what I've been doing for the last eight years, I find your comments a pointless rant.
openbox9

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said by sonicmerlin:

Also your reasons for not using consumption-based tax revenue are so appallingly and unethically cruel to the poor I have to question your basic humanity.
Do purposely choose not to read posts before responding to them? I'll quote the actual words that I typed:
quote:
I believe paying for consumption has it's role both in the tax code
So how exactly am I so appallingly and unethically cruel?

huntml
join:2002-01-23
Mullica Hill, NJ

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said by sonicmerlin:

I could cite data demonstrating the absolute idiocy of your doom and gloom predictions but I really feel like I'd be wasting my time talking into a wall.
Given that we have had no interaction whatsoever of which I am aware, I don't believe you have a basis upon which to assess my willingness to listen to any data you might cite.

Further, based on this, your first and only message to me of which I am aware, you seem to me to be a person prone to making snap judgments and forming unwarranted opinions based on insufficient data.

This in turn causes me to have some doubt as to whether any data you might cite might actually demonstrate what you believe it does.

But please feel free. I am always willing to learn, even from people as uncivil as you seem to be from your first message to me.