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NOVA_Guy
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Re: Virgin Media UK to Take Tougher Line on Heaviest Broadband U

I personally think that any usage caps on a connection are dumb. When a connection is sold to a person, it should be sold with the assumption that it may be used for some sort of activity 24/7, and priced accordingly.

Selling an "always on" connection and effectively telling people that it cannot always be used is deceptive and reflects poorly upon a company's ethics, management, and moral standards. But then again, look at who's supplying the connections (at least in the US)... I would hardly call cable and telco companies the pinnacle of ethics, morals, or customer service...
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said by NOVA_Guy See Profile :

I personally think that any usage caps on a connection are dumb. When a connection is sold to a person, it should be sold with the assumption that it may be used for some sort of activity 24/7, and priced accordingly.

Selling an "always on" connection and effectively telling people that it cannot always be used is deceptive and reflects poorly upon a company's ethics, management, and moral standards. But then again, look at who's supplying the connections (at least in the US)... I would hardly call cable and telco companies the pinnacle of ethics, morals, or customer service...
And then you'd gripe because the connection you get for that guarantee for the same price you're paying now would be reduced to 1.5 - 3 Mbps.


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said by NOVA_Guy See Profile :

I would hardly call cable and telco companies the pinnacle of ethics, morals, or customer service...
Sort of like many of their customers.
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Then how is it that we constantly hear of other nations (particularly in Asia) that are able to provide such high speed connections with no caps so cheaply?

Either there's something I'm missing in the pricing models, or the cable companies and telcos are gouging consumers. Given their histories, I'm more inclined to assume the latter than the former. Please provide some information to give me more insight or prove my assumption incorrect.
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I'm not quite sure what you're pointing to here... Customers are obviously not so unethical that these companies can't survive. Perhaps if you could provide some examples I could understand a little better.
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said by NOVA_Guy See Profile :

I'm not quite sure what you're pointing to here... Customers are obviously not so unethical that these companies can't survive. Perhaps if you could provide some examples I could understand a little better.
It is just that companies treat their customers poorly when they have to spend a lot of money to stop those customers from ripping them off. Cable, Telco, & satellite have all had to put extensive fraud prevention features in their services to stop theft. It just makes it hard for companies to take the high road when they know who they are dealing with. And at the same time, the honest customers then don't trust the companies because the companies don't trust them.
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Are you implying that using a network connection, that you are paying for, as advertised, is theft in some way????
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Are you implying that using a network connection, that you are paying for, as advertised, is theft in some way????
No. Just that those 3 type of providers all have a history with customers. Cable & satellite with people stealing TV service and premium channels thru hacked boxes. Telco with rampant theft of voice services over the years thru various devices. There is a MUTUAL poisoning of the well so to speak between the parties involved.
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Wow. Just, wow. So when companies treat their customers poorly it's the user's fault? That's a stretch, even for you.


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by jwersan See Profile :

Are you implying that using a network connection, that you are paying for, as advertised, is theft in some way????
No. Just that those 3 type of providers all have a history with customers. Cable & satellite with people stealing TV service and premium channels thru hacked boxes. Telco with rampant theft of voice services over the years thru various devices. There is a MUTUAL poisoning of the well so to speak between the parties involved.
OK, that point I understand and agree with.
Sorry for my confusion.
But you do have to admit that too many ISPs look at their high usage users as stealing from them, which in no way should they be allowed to call them thieves....
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