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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/540167" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=540167');">JoeG4</a>:</small><br><br>Nice project.. BUT<br><br>I'm a bit disturbed that your water heater is leaning a little AND isn't strapped down :O Those things are *#% heavy when full of water, be careful dude! <br> </div>Funny you mention the water heater, that is actually the OLD water heater that was replaced just a few days after I took those pictures :)<br><br>Here's a current pic of how it looks (complete with new water heater that is NOT leaning, lol)... All that remains is to tidy up a few temp wires:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/rack_power.jpg"> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by JmanJ35 :</small><br><br>Great job and great article. <br><br>Living in a 1931 cottage with only plaster walls has deterred me from doing any projects like this but,  you have inspired me to give this a try. <br><br>I completely failed to consider beer as the answer :)<br><br>Thanks for posting <br> </div>Glad that me and our mutual friend beer could be there to inspire :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[JoeG4 posted : Nice project.. BUT<br><br>I'm a bit disturbed that your water heater is leaning a little AND isn't strapped down :O Those things are *#% heavy when full of water, be careful dude! <br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.vgmasters.com">VGMasters</a> my video game forum</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Great job and great article. <br><br>Living in a 1931 cottage with only plaster walls has deterred me from doing any projects like this but,  you have inspired me to give this a try. <br><br>I completely failed to consider beer as the answer :)<br><br>Thanks for posting ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Good job. More home and business owners like you and i will be out of business. :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Good job. More home and business owners like you and I will be out of business. :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bbuchanan posted : You aren't the first and definitely won't be the last. <br><br> I've only ever done it a couple of times at work before I learned my lesson.  You always realize right after the snip and as the ends fall to the floor what you've done.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:31:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/946972" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=946972');">bbuchanan</a>:</small><br><br>Great job on doing your structured wiring!<br><br>The only thing I would add for the readers is to mark (number, name, etc) your cables before  you run and cut them off.  This will help greatly later when you are trying to figure out which cable on the patch panel goes to which room.<br><br>If you've got a toner, it isn't that big of a deal, but most people at home won't have one!<br> </div>Yes, I did mark the cable ends before running them, however, I made a big "boo-boo"... Once I ran the cables, ran my service loops in the ceiling and behind the walls, and had everything nicely run, right before I went to terminate the cables on the patch panels, I cut off the excess slack (which was about 5-6 feet)... Unfortunately, I only marked the cables at the ends :D  lol, so I had to test which cable was which (not a huge deal, but I felt sorta silly having labeled the cables only to cut the labels off at the very end of the install right before I needed them! ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bbuchanan posted : Great job on doing your structured wiring!<br><br>The only thing I would add for the readers is to mark (number, name, etc) your cables before  you run and cut them off.  This will help greatly later when you are trying to figure out which cable on the patch panel goes to which room.<br><br>If you've got a toner, it isn't that big of a deal, but most people at home won't have one!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/662271" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=662271');">jeffmoss26</a>:</small><br><br>What's with the lone cable stapled to the backboard?<br> </div>That's the FIOS power cable... I have decided (at least for now unless there is a better idea) to run power cables on the surface like that to minimize interference with the cat6/RG6 cables...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : OK, so I did a little bit more work, and installed the Panduit WMP1E... Although, the Panduit is not exactly how I envisioned (I was thinking more along the lines of NeatPatch) so I installed it backwards for now...  Here's a picture of how things currently look (Please ignore the File Server PC that's hooked up to the switch, it's only there temporarily....)<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/rack_99.jpg"> <br><br>Any advice/thoughts always appreciated...<br><br>Here are a few more pics:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/rack_2.jpg"> <br><br>Close-up of the top Rack<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/rack_1.jpg"> <br><br>Close-up of the bottom Rack<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/panduit_extras.jpg"> <br><br>The Panduit WMP1E came with some extra "hinges", don't really know how they are supposed to attach or what the point of them is since you an easily snap off the front cover...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:13:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/475550" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=475550');">jbcg</a>:</small><br><br>Really great topic--nicely documented and great project.<br><br>A few thoughts:<br><br>2) I'd be very hesitant to run cable behind the backboard (although it looks really nice that way).  Once you get enough cables running back there it gets to be a real pain to pull cables, and there's more of a chance it'll turn into a big tangle that you can't manage because you can't see or touch it.  That'll damage cables and you may have cross-talk problems.  I'd run the cable on the surface with d-rings.  Use Velcro ties to bundle the cable.<br></div>Ya, I think I will probably run the next batch of cables in a different location, either on the side, or behind in between different furring strips, but ya, I don't want it to become a twisted mess back there :)<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/475550" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=475550');">jbcg</a>:</small><br><br>3) To cut drywall and plaster it's a lot easier and less damage-prone to use either a Dremel tool or a RotoZip with a plaster/drywall cutting bit.  On plaster I also like to use some blue painter's tape to delineate the cut--that helps the plaster hold together better, and it gives you a place to draw your line with a laundry marker (Sharpie), which makes it easier to see when cutting with a Dremel or RZ, which tend to raise a lot of dust.  If you have a helper, when you make the cut have him/her hold a vacuum nozzle right where you're making the cut--really makes cleanup a lot easier.<br></div>Great tips!  Yes, I really should invest in a Dremel tool, the drilling + handsaw method I use is quite shabby... I've yet to try the taping the edges trick, but I certainly will for the next plaster wall I need to deal with...<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/475550" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=475550');">jbcg</a>:</small><br><br>5) Generally, drops (and terminations) should be more than a foot from any parallel 110v cable or outlet.  If I have the space I'll run the drops a full stud bay away from any bay containing 110v.  This means my terminations are usually about 19" from the nearest 110v outlet.  Running both in the same stud bay is technically okay as long as you can separate the two by mounting 110 to one stud and LV cable to the other, but it can be hard to do that if you're pulling cable blind (and if you leave a loop of extra Cat6).  After all the work you've gone to it would be a shame to introduce EMI (electromagnetic interference) in to the network from a nearby parallel 110v cable.  You might not see a problem right away with Cat6, but if you're really interested in doing 10 gig/sec one day, you'll almost certainly see issues when you start using 10 gig/sec equipment.<br><br>Really great topic--looking forward to your future entries.<br><br>Joey<br> </div>I realized this after I wired up my office, that the existing coax outlet I used was 6" away from the 110v outlet... But, so far no problems... I put the service loop as far away as possible from the 110v cable, and the way I see it, if when I move to 10gig/s I have problems, I will simply remove/disconnect the outlet that's right next to my office jack :)  My office has like 10 power outlets, so I actually WANT to get rid of a few of them, it's a little excessive! lol...<br><br>Thanks again for all the tips... I am getting pretty close to finished, once the Panduit 2U cable management arrives tomorrow, I'll post a pic before finishing up the power cable runs... I am still on the fence about a UPS...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jbcg posted : Really great topic--nicely documented and great project.<br><br>A few thoughts:<br><br>1) D rings are a better choice than the staples for cable, but another option is Velcro.  You can buy pre-made Velcro "rip ties," but they are pretty expensive.  An alternative is to buy a reel of two-sided 1" Velcro (hook one side, loop other).  Cut a piece 8" long.  Turn one end over on itself for about 1", and staple that to the joist (2 staples) with the remainder hanging down.  Fold that up to the part you stapled to make a loop to hold the cable.  Makes it much easier to add/change/remove cable in the future, and it's soft and wide enough to avoid kinking cable.  If you get enough cable in a d-ring the weight of the cable can cause the lower cables to kink.  I like to mount the Velcro loops a foot apart when I have a choice, although 16" is okay for joists.<br><br>2) I'd be very hesitant to run cable behind the backboard (although it looks really nice that way).  Once you get enough cables running back there it gets to be a real pain to pull cables, and there's more of a chance it'll turn into a big tangle that you can't manage because you can't see or touch it.  That'll damage cables and you may have cross-talk problems.  I'd run the cable on the surface with d-rings.  Use Velcro ties to bundle the cable.<br><br>3) To cut drywall and plaster it's a lot easier and less damage-prone to use either a Dremel tool or a RotoZip with a plaster/drywall cutting bit.  On plaster I also like to use some blue painter's tape to delineate the cut--that helps the plaster hold together better, and it gives you a place to draw your line with a laundry marker (Sharpie), which makes it easier to see when cutting with a Dremel or RZ, which tend to raise a lot of dust.  If you have a helper, when you make the cut have him/her hold a vacuum nozzle right where you're making the cut--really makes cleanup a lot easier.<br><br>4) If you're running a lot of cable for some distance thru the basement, you might consider making a cable tray to carry the cables.  These "backbone" bundles tend to be very heavy and it's hard to support them even with Velcro without making them too heavy to support their own weight without kinking.  A cable tray can be made out of steel 2x4 stud material, pop-riveted end-to-end.  (Make sure the heads of the rivets are inside the tray.  Looks a little weird from the outside, but protects cable from damage.)<br><br>5) Generally, drops (and terminations) should be more than a foot from any parallel 110v cable or outlet.  If I have the space I'll run the drops a full stud bay away from any bay containing 110v.  This means my terminations are usually about 19" from the nearest 110v outlet.  Running both in the same stud bay is technically okay as long as you can separate the two by mounting 110 to one stud and LV cable to the other, but it can be hard to do that if you're pulling cable blind (and if you leave a loop of extra Cat6).  After all the work you've gone to it would be a shame to introduce EMI (electromagnetic interference) in to the network from a nearby parallel 110v cable.  You might not see a problem right away with Cat6, but if you're really interested in doing 10 gig/sec one day, you'll almost certainly see issues when you start using 10 gig/sec equipment.<br><br>Really great topic--looking forward to your future entries.<br><br>Joey]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Cyber2lz posted : U R going to have other equipment on that board, trust me!<br>Get a real ups!  Otherwise, super nice job!<br><small>--<br>The Light Pipe is the Right Pipe !!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jeffmoss26 posted : These are D rings-<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.asihome.com/images/aii-d22.png"> <br>You can see how I used them to contain the cable coming from the ceiling into my 66 blocks-<br> <IMG SRC="http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/jeffmoss26/Mosscomm%20Shop/DSCN3047.jpg"> <br><br>These are Bridle rings-<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.erico.com/public/images/products/FF-Datacomm/NorthAmerica/1023.jpg"> <br>You would want the ones with wood screw threads to go right into the joists.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:25:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/662271" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=662271');">jeffmoss26</a>:</small><br><br>Looks good-<br>A few suggestions:<br>1) on the ceiling joists, use D-rings or bridle rings instead of the staples. This way you can easily add more cables. <br>I also recommend using them to route the cable on the backboard, even though you already ran them behind the wall.<br>2) I like to tape the glow rod down to the bundle of wire so it is completely flat, the way you tape it, you might have a problem with it getting caught.<br>3) I'm not sure how to recommend you to handle the coax cabling. The cable company is not used to seeing such fancy things as patch panels. They will likely just slap some splitters on the wall.<br>Otherwise, good job. I swear by those PPC coax fittings.<br> </div>Can you elaborate a little more on #1?  (Maybe even some pics?)<br><br>2) Hmmm, again, can you elaborate a little more and describe what you mean by "flat"?  I had plenty of space with the holes I drilled for pulling wires, but I'd like to use the best technique possible so that in the future if I have a tighter fit I don't run into problems...<br><br>3) Ya, I will probably invest in some nice splitter/amps and mount them above or to the side of the top rack so they feed into the coax patch panel nicely...  The electrician who installed the 20A circuit had wide eyes when he saw my panels, he was like "You did this???"... After that, he was sort of nervous and did a super neat job running the wire, lol...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/447260" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=447260');">Greg_Z</a>:</small><br><br>Besides the Tripp Lite on the upper panel, who makes the 75ohm patch panel that is there?<br><br>I myself, need to install Battery back up for my two servers, and would like to use the same type of 75 ohm distro panel for a/v.<br> </div>2U RG6 coax patch panel here:<br><br>[url]&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.computercablestore.com/2U_Coaxial_Patch_Panels_catID2069.aspx[/url]" >www.computercablestore.com/2U_Co&middot;&middot;&middot;px[/url]</A><br><br>They have all different types, with higher and lower density, and also diff sizes of connectors (1/2" BNC and the F-conn that I got)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[yolarry posted : Wow nice job. this is something I really need to do.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Greg_Z posted : Besides the Tripp Lite on the upper panel, who makes the 75ohm patch panel that is there?<br><br>I myself, need to install Battery back up for my two servers, and would like to use the same type of 75 ohm distro panel for a/v.<br><small>--<br>I threw out the map a long time ago.  Now I follow my own direction!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jeffmoss26 posted : Looks good-<br>A few suggestions:<br>1) on the ceiling joists, use D-rings or bridle rings instead of the staples. This way you can easily add more cables. <br>I also recommend using them to route the cable on the backboard, even though you already ran them behind the wall.<br>2) I like to tape the glow rod down to the bundle of wire so it is completely flat, the way you tape it, you might have a problem with it getting caught.<br>3) I'm not sure how to recommend you to handle the coax cabling. The cable company is not used to seeing such fancy things as patch panels. They will likely just slap some splitters on the wall.<br>Otherwise, good job. I swear by those PPC coax fittings.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : OK, got a dedicated 20A circuit running to the wall... It terminates at the 4-plug outlet you see there:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/rack_wired.jpg"> <br><br>I've got the tripplite rackmounted surge strip plugged into the outlet, and then FIOS and the Netgear switch plugged into the Tripplite.<br><br>Now that you can see things as they are in actuality, what do you think the best approach is?<br><br>1) Run the wires BEHIND the plywood - I like this idea, but as stated, there is a risk of drilling into them in the future.<br><br>2) Staple them to the plywood - This could look nice and neat, just need to think of the best way to run the wires on the board.<br><br>Finally, what do you guys do with all the extra power slack?  The tripplite alone has like 14 feet of slack... The FIOS has a ton as well...<br><br>(I will post close-up pictures of the rack next week when the 2U cable management arrives on Tuesday...  So expect those pics Tuesday evening...)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[adamtech78 posted : Very very cool.<br>great photos and good descriptions.<br>FANTASTIC work!<br><br>show us photos of the rack when you can.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:25:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1565065" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1565065');">dumbfound</a>:</small><br><br>Wow you did a really good job... I just did mines ~2months ago. I just attach it directly to my switch in the basement. I didn't attach it to that monoprice-device to the switch. Is it beneficial?<br> </div>Are you talking about the 24-port Patch Panel?  Yes, they are VERY useful, as you can change which switch port goes where on the fly... <br><br>I love patch panels, but I've worked with them my whole life...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:42:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Beezler posted : Great Job!  Great descriptions of your step-by-step approach and how you were able to overcome the obstacles an older house can throw at you.  The pictures especially helped to illustrate those efforts.  It really is a big job and takes considerable planning and effort especially if you want to make it a clean cable plant.  I'm impressed!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dumbfound posted : Wow you did a really good job... I just did mines ~2months ago. I just attach it directly to my switch in the basement. I didn't attach it to that monoprice-device to the switch. Is it beneficial?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : OK, we are current now... Thank you for tolerating the simultaneous posting of 1 month worth of work in a few minutes... Hopefully it's not too confusing, but this is where we are now, as of 17-JUL-2009...<br><br>The electrician is coming over today to run a 20A circuit... Question is, where should he run it to on the rack and in what manner?  The line will be coming from the ceiling above.  I am planning to have him run a 12-3 line...  I want to make sure my power cable management is as clean as the rest of the work...  Thoughts?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : OK, we're getting REAL close to the end for now... The Netgear 24-port gigabit switch came in the mail today, so I terminated the patch panel with the 9 cat6 drops so far... All that's left are the following:<br><br>1) Install Panduit 2U Cable Management in between patch panel and switch (It arrives Tuesday)<br>2) Get an electrician to run a 20A circuit to the rack<br>3) Properly run all power cables to rack<br><br>Here's a picture for now, it will definitely look much neater when my Panduit 2U cable mgmt is installed (I hope!):<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/almost_there.jpg"> ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:23:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : More updates:<br><br>Ordered a Panduit WMP1E (<A HREF="http://http://www.panduit.com/Products/ProductOverviews/ProductSearch/index.htm?Ns=P_ItemSortOrder&Ns=P_ItemSortOrder&Ne=1&R=WMP1E&sid=12275B351662&lastNodeId=ss_prod_cabinetsrackscables&N=5000001%20826%203002237">Panduit WMP1E Specs</a>)... It's a 2U patch cable manager, should work nicely in between the switch and patch panel with a bunch of 2 ft patch cables... That should take care of patch panel to switch cable mgmt...<br><br>Also, went to my local electrical supply shop and picked up two Vanco dual-gang 2-piece reversible cable wall plates ([url]&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.vanco-online.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_61&products_id=101471[/url]" >www.vanco-online.com/index.php?m&middot;&middot;&middot;71[/url]</A>), then went over to home depot and got two carlon dual-gang low voltage brackets...<br><br>I will put one wall plate over each rack, as each one can hold plenty of wires...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/wall_plates.jpg"> <br><br>I had enough depth for the Carlon low voltage mounting bracket, but I did have to trim the two screws just a bit (1/4"), but it fit perfectly!  I re-ran all the cables to be nice and tight as I have 3 separate service loops so I am ready to rock... Here are some pics as it is right now, just waiting for my switch to arrive tomorrow to punch down my patch panel...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/plywood_hole.jpg"> <br><br>Cutting a hole was not easy without a power reciprocating saw, lol!<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/plywood_brackets.jpg"> <br><br>Brackets installed, wires velcro'd and run using a small chain as a pull cord, and coax and cat6 separated...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/plywood_hoods.jpg"> <br><br>Starting to look nice and CLEAN!!  I like the black wire and black hoods, hides the wires even more...<br><br>OK, so I will punch down the coax and cat6 panels tomorrow after my switch arrives... I really wish I had sufficient signal strength to keep my Dlink DIR-655 in the basement next to the rack, but alas, not enough wireless power... I guess I can add another access point...<br><br>Oh, here are a few pics of how I am running the cables from the drops to the rack along the unfinished basement ceiling:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/cable_run3.jpg"> <br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/cable_run2.jpg"> <br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/cable_run1.jpg"> <br><br>Note the various service loops along the way... The messy one is right before the FIOS box where everything intersects... It looks messier than it is, but I guess I could wrap it up a bit tighter, but the way it is now, there are no sharp bends, and I figure once the basement is finished, it will be hidden up in the ceiling anyway...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : Finished the 1st floor... 2nd Drop in the den is done, and the Office drop is done as well... I am actually getting pretty good at cutting through plaster and wood, in fact, I was able to do it in about 30 minutes and with NO repair required afterwards!  (Yes, I was lucky, and yes, miller lite was involved) :D<br><br>Anyway, here are some pics:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/plaster_removed.jpg"> <br><br>2nd den drop location, plaster drilled out for the Carlon mount... Luckily no plaster cracked/chipped off...  Note the wood boards left to be cut, they are a pain as when cutting them, they tend to crack the plaster walls...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/wood_removed.jpg"> <br><br>Lucky again!  Removed all wood, and installed Carlon old work bracket perfectly leveled with no wall damage...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/den_finished.jpg"> <br><br>Finished!  3 Cat 6 and one RG6 making a total of 3 RG6 and 7 Cat6 in the Den (Home Theater Room)<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_finished.jpg"> <br><br>Office drop finished!  This is the "standard" drop for my home now (2 cat6 and 2 RG6), even though this is the first time I've used this config, lol :)<br><br>All wiring in the basement is run and today I plan to secure it to the overhead floor joists and run it behind the plywood panel... All cables are marked so I know which cable goes to which port... I will also probably start terminating my patch panel today so when my switch arrives on Wednesday I can plug it in and be in business..<br><br>Finally, I want to slightly reconfigure my arrangement in my rack, I'll post an updated pic and hopefully get some feedback...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : OK, so I was inspired tonight and decided to run the rest of the drops to the main level... I decided on the following:<br><br>1 additional drop to the den on the other side of the room of the drop I just did this week<br>1 drop to my office, which shares a wall with the den<br><br>There was an existing coax jack in the wall of the office which I had already removed the existing wiring from, so it was just an empty wallplate... (The original coax was crappy quality and the wire run went OUTSIDE the house and to the basement, lol)<br><br>Anyway, I decided on 4 runs to each jack:<br><br>office (standard config) - 2 cat6 and 2 RG6<br>2nd den jack - 3 cat6 and 1 RG6 (giving a total of 7 cat6 and 3 RG6 in the den, which is the HT room)<br><br>OK, some pics:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_existing.jpg"> <br><br>First - The existing coax location as it was along with some tools for the job... NOTE: There is no miller lite required as this room (the office) is an addition that was put on the house so it has drywall instead of plaster! :D<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_cutout.jpg"> <br><br>Second - new hole cutout in existing location and 1/4" pilot hole drilled and glow rod successfully routed into basement<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_pilot.jpg"> <br><br>Third - View from the basement of the glow rod coming out the pilot hole... NOTE: I had to drill at an angle YET AGAIN... This time because this wall was an outside wall so it's at the very edge of the foundation and it's not a straight shot upward into the wall cavity... Gotta love older houses, nothing can just be an easy straight drill above :)<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_hole.jpg"> <br><br>Fourth - 1" hole drilled near the pilot hole to end up right in the middle of the wall cavity above so I can use it for both the office and den drop since they share a wall.  NOTE: 1" is EXACTLY the right size for 3 RG6 and 5 Cat6 wires, it's a perfect fit!<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_carlon.jpg"> <br><br>Fifth - After 1" hole was drilled I mounted the Carlon low voltage single gang old work bracket (SC100RR).  NOTE: The wood you see behind is the backing for the plaster and lath wall in the den.<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/office_drop.jpg"> <br><br>Sixth - Boom!  All eight wires (3 RG6 and 5 Cat6) successfully pulled via glow rod from the basement...<br><br>NOTE: I have not yet cut the wall hole in the den for the 2nd drop... I'll do that tomorrow (hopefully) as it's a plaster wall and I need lots of beer for that job and it's way to late to start drinking :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : Made some great progress this weekend, ran my first outlet to my HT room (the den) on the main level... Decided to go with a 6-port outet, 4 cat6 and 2 rg6, as it's a room that will be used heavily for media (as it is, I already need 2 cat6 runs to that room for my htpc docking station and PS3)... Heck, I may do this for other rooms, 2 runs of each did not seem to be enough, I really feel you can't have too much cat6 wiring...<br><br>Anyway, here are some pics of the first install:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/den.jpg"> <br><br>Before pic of my setup, note the single disgusting white coax cable coming out from the floor in the corner of the room... That's how it was when I bought the house in each room :(<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/tools.jpg"> <br><br>Most of the smaller tools I used for the project, and yes, Miller Lite is a required tool when doing something like this, especially when you have plaster walls like I do :D<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/rough.jpg"> <br><br>After rough cutting the hole, installed a Carlon low voltage single gang old work bracket (SC100RR)... Used a level and stud finder to ensure proper and level placement...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/hole.jpg"> <br><br>As fate would have it, the wall I wanted to get into is supported below by TWO side-by-side joists :(  So, I had to drill at an angle to get from the unfinished basement into the wall space above... I did a pilot hole with a 1/4" drill bit, then slightly adjusted my angle for the final hole which I did with a 1" spade bit, both were 18" long drill bits...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/fished.jpg"> <br><br>The fish tape at home depot was garbage, and the nylon fish tape was too expensive (almost $80 for a reel), so I bought a 5 foot flexible glow rod with eyelets on each end for $20... Worked perfectly with electricians bundle tape to pull all 6 wires through the hole simultaneously, no problem at all...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/tools2.jpg"> <br><br>Pic of the rest of the tools I used to finish the wall plate, mostly from monoprice, my cat6 keystone jacks, PPC ex6 xl compression plugs, etc...<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/exposed.jpg"> <br><br>Everything wired, wall patched and painted where some of the plaster cracked around the carlon bracket, all that's left to do is cut the old coax coming out of the floor and screw the 6-port plate into the wall... I left a small 2 foot loop of cable behind the wall in case I ever need more wire/slack in the future... (I believe this is called a "service loop"?)<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/den_outlet.jpg"> <br><br>Done!  Looks pretty good I think... Now, I have some serious cable management questions about my rack...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : Got the plywood up today...<br><br>Step 1: Remove the FIOS box that was nailed directly into the concrete wall by Verizon<br><br>Step 2: Have a carpenter install 3 furring strips<br><br>Step 3: Screw in a 4'X5' sheet of plywood onto the furring strips<br><br>I then realized that I didn't have any proper mounting screws for my new wall mounted rack or the FIOS box, so that will have to wait until tomorrow...  For now, I have a blank canvas upon which to design my masterpiece ;)<br><br>Pics of Steps 2 and 3:<br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/furring.jpg"> <br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.infoarena.com/pics/wiring/plywood.jpg"> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[technique posted : Just discovered this sub-forum... I started a structured wiring project about 1 month ago, here's my first post I did in another forum, I'm almost finished now so I'll post the history to document it here and solicit a few ideas as well:<br><br><b>SUMMARY:</b><br>The purpose of this thread is to document my structured wiring project and solicit any tips/advice along the way from the community here.<br><br><b>HISTORY:</b><br>My wife and I recently purchased an older 1927 home, which was remodeled just before we moved in.  Unfortunately, the wiring was not redone so now I am in the unenviable position of starting to rewire the entire house while trying to destroy as little of the existing freshly painted walls as possible.<br><br>The house is 3 levels with above ground cables bringing in utilities - Level 1) Unfinished basement with exposed ceilings - Level 2) Finished 1st floor - Level 3) Finished 2nd floor<br><br>I started by ripping out all existing wires (copper, coax, security and a little ethernet)... A total hodge-podge of daisy-chained mess from nearly 100+ years of previous residents... I even found some old braided phone cable... Anyway, FIOS was installed a few days ago on the basement concrete wall in the utility room, and all the copper coming inside the house and the old NID on the side of the house are gone, with only the new ONT in the basement.  Access to the first floor will be easy as the basement ceiling is exposed so I can run wires with no problem.  Trickier is the 2nd floor, which I am planning to run 2" PVC pipe on the side of the house alongside the freon lines from the second zone HVAC unit into the attic as there are no clean ways to run wires up to the 2nd floor from the basement, let alone conduit which I would like to have everywhere.<br><br>As of now, the house is essentially wire-free except for power.<br><br><b>CURRENT HOUSE LAYOUT:</b><br>There are no jacks/outlets in any rooms.  Rooms are configured as follows:<br><br><b>1st floor:</b><br>Kitchen - Small, perhaps a TV or radio or something in the future<br>Dining Room - Formal with large table, side bar, chandelier, and big mirrors on the wall - No plans for any electronics in this room<br>Living Room - Formal with fireplace, lots of windows, antique furniture - No plans for any electronics in this room<br>Bathroom - Small, no plans for TV or anything like that<br>Den - 52" LCD with surround sound and couch - This is where we watch movies, play PS3, etc...<br>Study - Desk with laptop docking station - Used daily<br>Nook - Small open area in the back of the house leading out to the deck - China Cabinet, Piano and wine cooler are currently there.<br><br><b>2nd floor:</b><br>Office - Desk with laptop docking station and printer - Used daily<br>Master Bedroom - Currently no TV, but maybe in the future<br>Master Bathroom - Small, no plans for TV or anything like that<br><br><b>PLANNED HOUSE LAYOUT:</b><br>Conduit to all planned drops:<br>1st floor - Kitchen (nothing for now), Dining Room (nothing for now), Living Room (nothing for now), Bathroom (nothing for now), Den (2 drops), Study (1 drop), Nook (1 drop)<br>2nd floor - Office (2 drops), Master Bedroom (2 drops), Master bathroom (nothing for now)<br><br><b>PLAN:</b><br>4 lines per drop - 2 cat6 and 2 RG6 quad (via conduit wherever possible)<br>All terminating in basement in utility room<br>CWP will be a 24-port patch panel in a 7U wall mount bracket mounted to plywood on the cinderblock wall (Have not thought about what to do with the RG6 yet)<br><br><b>PARTS PURCHASED SO FAR:</b><br><br><b>From monoprice:</b><br>1 - Wall Mount Bracket, 12.25X19X12 (inch) ,7U<br>50 - 10/32 Screw for Rack, Black<br>1 - Single Sided Shelf, 3.5(H)X10(D)X19(W), 30Lbs<br>1 - Cat 6 UTP Solid, Riser Rated (CMR), 500MHz 23WG 1000FT Bulk Cable - Black   <br>12 - CAT 6 500MHz UTP 2FT Cable - Yellow   <br>6 - Keystone Jack - Modular F Type (Black)   <br>1 - Professional Compression Crimping Tool [HT-H548A3]<br>1 - Universal Cable Jacket Stripper [HT-352]<br>6 - Wall Plate for Keystone, 4 Hole -White<br>6 - Blank Insert For Wall Plate - White<br>1 - Cat6 Panel 110 Type 24 Port (568A/B Compatible)<br><br><b>From firefold:</b><br>12 - Cat6 Keystone Jack, 110 Style - Black<br>1 - Keystone Jack Punch Down Stand<br>1 - 1000 Foot RG6U Single Quad Shield - Black<br><br><b>From ebay:</b><br>50 - PPC RG6 EX6XL Compression Connectors<br><br><b>TOTAL COST SO FAR:</b><br>$396<br><br><b>GOAL:</b><br>To have a semi-impressive, crisp structured wiring setup in my house that is fairly future-proofed.<br><br><b>NOTES:</b><br>As of now, we only have FIOS internet, no TV.  I have not had Cable TV for about 6 months.  I gave it up for new years 2009 and have not really missed it as I have netflix and don't watch much TV.  What little TV I do watch I can watch for free streaming from the stations websites or sites like hulu.  That being said, I think my wife will probably insist on bringing TV back at some point, and besides, I want to be as future proofed as possible.<br><br><b>PENDING QUESTIONS:</b><br>1) How to terminate my RG6 in the CWP?<br>2) What size PVC pipe should I run from the CWP to the attic for my existing plan?<br>3) Are 2 cat6 and 2 quad RG6 per drop a good start?<br>4) Any suggestions on power for my 19" wide wall mount rack?<br>5) Any suggestions on mounting my FIOS box in my 19" wide wall mount rack?<br>6) I am considering installing a security system (ADT, etc.) and don't know if I should run security wire in anticipation of that or just have enough conduit run to pull whatever I need later... I don't know anything about security systems or even if security wire is still used.<br><br><b>MISC:</b><br>Please no "cat 5e vs cat 6", "standard vs quad shield", "lcd vs plasma", "PS3 vs xbox", "coax vs optical", or whatever comments in this thread. :cool:<br><br>Please let me know if you would like pics of anything specific posted.<br><br>I will edit this original post as questions are answered/suggestions are made.<br><br>Finally, thanks to everyone for their thoughts!]]></description>
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