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Splitpair
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Cow Towne
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Re: O/T: Cable tv sites

said by battleop See Profile :

Heh I still wish Dish/Direct would run adds that point out that cable gets their feed from satellite.
As does DISH and DIRECTV.

Wayne
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If you cannot fix it with a buttset and some beanies you ain't a technician


battleop

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I think you missed that comment. I am referring to the early commercials that some cable companies ran that made fun of the sat providers for using satellite. Some made comments that sat providers were not giving you a 1st generation signal when they them selves were not either.


Splitpair
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said by battleop See Profile :

I think you missed that comment. I am referring to the early commercials that some cable companies ran that made fun of the sat providers for using satellite. Some made comments that sat providers were not giving you a 1st generation signal when they them selves were not either.
I didn’t miss the point though I do get the feeling you do not understand how DTV and DISH work.

Those commercials are accurate as most cable providers pull down their programming direct from the content providers leased satellite transponders for distribution on their systems whereas high power direct satellite providers such as DTV and DISH pull down the same direct feeds and then retransmit the programming on their own leased satellite transponders for distribution to their subscribers, as such DTV and DISH do provide a second generation service.

For example with my Ku band system I can receive National Geographic in the clear with PowerVu directly from AMC 4 at 101 West transponder 18 subcarrier 4 and I receive the programming about 14 seconds ahead of the same channel on DTV due to DTV’s retransmission time getting that programming back up to DirecTV 9S at 101.1 West and then back down to my DTV system.

Wayne
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battleop

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The only real first generation signal available to the consumer was what you could get on a BUD. Even the Cable companies compress and process the signal so it is no longer a 1st generation signal.



Splitpair
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said by battleop See Profile :

The only real first generation signal available to the consumer was what you could get on a BUD. Even the Cable companies compress and process the signal so it is no longer a 1st generation signal.
Well since your splitting hairs that is also incorrect as the downlinks are no longer analog, so if one truly wanted a first generation signal they would need to be hard wired or fibered into the content provider pre-uplink. :-P

Wayne
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battleop

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I am referring to commercials that ran in the 90s when USSB was still around. That's why I used the word "was" and not "is" in "The only real first generation signal available ot the consumer WAS what you you could get on a BUD.

The last time I used my BUD to watch anything analog I found a very small number of analog transponders. There are still a few trucks out there that use analog signals for their uplink and even that's becoming rare. I only really search the analog stuff during an active hurricane that's headed for the US.

I think you might be able to still subscribe to 4DTV but that wouldn't be a 1st gen signal since who ever owns the rights to that now has to mux the feed and send it back up to the bird.
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