baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | reply to hopeflicker
Re: Any other solution?
Solution: put a couch in front of your computer. |
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hopeflicker
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Long Beach, CA
| said by baineschile  :Solution: put a couch in front of your computer.  too much work
Id rather just burn it to CD and watch it on my big screen |
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openbox9
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Alexandria, VA | And how do you get the content to burn to a "CD"? Whether you watch the content on your computer, or transport it to your TV via whatever mechanism you choose, the method to obtain the content is the same. |
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insomniac84
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Schererville, IN | reply to hopeflicker
Why isn't the tv hooked up to the computer? |
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exocet_cm
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| said by insomniac84 :Why isn't the tv hooked up to the computer? Mine is. Call of Duty 4 and SnapStream Beyond TV. |
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hopeflicker
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said by openbox9 :And how do you get the content to burn to a "CD"? Whether you watch the content on your computer, or transport it to your TV via whatever mechanism you choose, the method to obtain the content is the same. I simply download it and burn it to CD. Let's not beat around the bush, here. It's that simple.
I like to watch TV from the comfort of my couch and not from the computer chair in my office.
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hopeflicker
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said by insomniac84 :Why isn't the tv hooked up to the computer? computer is on the other side of the house. |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
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| said by hopeflicker :said by insomniac84 :Why isn't the tv hooked up to the computer? computer is on the other side of the house. Here's a solution: »www.tigerdirect.com/applications···CjCECjCE |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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The original question still remains. How will content continue to be developed if nobody is willing to pay for it, either directly, or indirectly via advertisements? Where you watch the content is irrelative. I happen to watch mine on my HTPC that's connected to my main TV, but that doesn't change the economics. |
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hopeflicker
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| said by openbox9 :The original question still remains. How will content continue to be developed if nobody is willing to pay for it, either directly, or indirectly via advertisements? Where you watch the content is irrelative. I happen to watch mine on my HTPC that's connected to my main TV, but that doesn't change the economics. Im not here to argue how programmers are going to make money. I simply stated that i prefer to watch my TV from a couch either via STB, burned CD, or any other method. The big issue in this thread is that people dont like to watch ads, and you know what, it's not my problem when when programmers scramble to figure out how to deliver content while making money. I understand they have to show ads, but i dont find one fucking difference in me burning a CD of a show or fast forwarding through my recorded DVR stuff. Either way, Im gonna try be aviod watching Ads.
Tell me, when the advertisements come on your TV, do you get up and leave the room? if so, then i see no difference in what you and I do.
like the RIAA, the producers of TV shows need to find other means of making money, even if it's product placement in shows.
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My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. He said, If I have a chance to invade if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it.I'm going to get everything passed that I want.
G W BUSH |
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hopeflicker
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yeah, im aware of these. If i was to ever go this route i'd go hard wired.
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My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. He said, If I have a chance to invade if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it.I'm going to get everything passed that I want.
G W BUSH |
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antdude
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Or use a notebook/laptop? |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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said by hopeflicker :I simply stated that i prefer to watch my TV from a couch I believe that's a given for just about anyone.said by hopeflicker :I understand they have to show ads, but i dont find one fucking difference in me burning a CD of a show or fast forwarding through my recorded DVR stuff. And I never said there was a difference. I was merely trying to follow the OP's post.said by hopeflicker :Tell me, when the advertisements come on your TV, do you get up and leave the room? Nope, I don't watch advertisements  said by hopeflicker :like the RIAA, the producers of TV shows need to find other means of making money, even if it's product placement in shows. I won't dispute that. The obvious method is to charge for the content, but we already know how well that will work. A big swath of consumers have become accustomed to free, and it will be next to impossible to change that short of ramming it down their throats, e.g. forced ads via IPTV streams. |
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Vertickle
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Madison, AL
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said by hopeflicker :yeah, im aware of these. If i was to ever go this route i'd go hard wired. That would be the preferred method. What are you using at the TV to play the "videos" you burned to a "CD?"
Edit* Fat fingers... |
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hopeflicker
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2 edits | said by Vertickle :said by hopeflicker :yeah, im aware of these. If i was to ever go this route i'd go hard wired. That would be the preferred method. What are you using at the TV to play the "videos" you burned to a "CD?" Edit* Fat fingers... Preferred? I prefer to watch them on my big screen. When i bought my plasma i really didnt research them and kinda burned myself. I ended up getting a EDTV »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced-d···levision and not a true HDTV. Anyway, i have a stand alone DVD player that plays many different formats (i.e. DIVX, MPEG, etc). This makes it easy so that i dont have to do any time consuming conversions.
However, most of the time, and dont get me wrong, i record all of my shows via my providers DVR. It's just i'll get what i missed via online.
edit: EDTV's are equivalent to DVD quality. And yes, im kicking myself for this subpar purchase. oh well, this was 4-5 years ago.
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My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. He said, If I have a chance to invade if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it.I'm going to get everything passed that I want.
G W BUSH |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
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| I meant to say that hard wiring the connection between the Pc and TV would be the preferred or recommended method.
You might want to try burning the files to DVD instead of CDs. You wouldn't have to compress everything as much. Unless you're downloading 600m files that is.
EDTV huh? Poor guy. :P |
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hopeflicker
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| said by Vertickle :I meant to say that hard wiring the connection between the Pc and TV would be the preferred or recommended method. yes, that's what i would prefer too 
The copies you get online are good enough to not covert to DVD.
I mean, why take a show that's 300MB and 30min or so long and convert to a DVD? CDs are cheaper too . Im not terribly picky about quality. I usally just toss the CDs in the trash when im done. My next TV will have a USB or card reader so no more trashing CDs/DVDs
yeah, EDTV,  I failed with this purchase. I see a true HDTV coming soon. They are getting so cheap.
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My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. He said, If I have a chance to invade if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it.I'm going to get everything passed that I want.
G W BUSH |
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
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"How will content continue to be developed if nobody is willing to pay for it"
Product placement. Many companies are happy to pay productions to put their products in the shows and the economics are pretty sound. The content creators get the money they need to create and the advertisers get their products featured.
A company COULD pay up to $250,000 for a single 30 second spot (commercials are on a frame-by-frame basis the most expensive filmmaking process out there) plus the cost of placing the ad and it might run sporadically for a few weeks. OR they could pay between $20,000 and $200,000 (with no placement costs) to have their product placed in a film, TV show, video game and the product is there forever. They might not even have to pay in cash; they simply provide their products free to the production (Apple LOVES doing this which is why so many films feature Apple computers and iPhones).
This works out well for the production company (in providing much needed financial resources) as well as the advertiser. The only potential loser is the delivery agent who is no longer getting paid to air the ads.
Smaller, local companies probably can't afford to pay for product placement and they're the folks that have a greater need for the traditional delivery methods. My guess is cable, broadcast, and satellite will need to seriously scale back the cost of buying airtime and create a better value for placing ad content on them. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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| Product placement is one means of generating the capital necessary for production. It may work for low budget sitcoms or some of the crappy reality shows, but for more of the high budget productions, I'd be curious if product placement revenue is sufficient. |
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