  hammery
@verizon.net | Fios tv and tivo?
Have a free DVR from Fios until Oct. Thinking about buying TIVO. Like to know if It will work with Fios and can it replace the Fios DVR box. Any info on how Fios could work with TIVO will be appreciated |
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  darcilicious Cyber Librarian Premium join:2001-01-02 Forest Grove, OR | Read on, McDuff! 
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  hammery
@verizon.net | reply to hammery Thread did not help. I want to know the difference between a Fios DVR and a TIVO. How does the subscription part work? Which of the two is better price wise and will give me the most storage wise. |
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 KenAF
join:2006-01-23 Arlington, VA
| Everything you could ever want to know about TiVo can be found in the AVS TivoHD FAQ.
It has common questions and answers, screenshots, and videos of the TiVo in action on FiOS. |
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  birdfeedr Premium,MVM join:2001-08-11 Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to hammery said by hammery :
Which of the two is better price wise and will give me the most storage wise. Comparing subscription plus hardware cost for Tivo to monthly rental for FiOS with "included" data subscription is *very* subjective.
Some would say the flaws in VZ program data make the FiOS DVR a poor choice. Others would say free makes the flaws acceptable.
Currently, the FiOS DVR does not allow more than 160GB storage. Some Tivo models can be expanded.
Some say the upfront hardware expense of Tivo is a lot compared to the monthly rental of FiOS DVR, but others say over time the monthly rental pays for the unit multiple times.
Some say the rental is a good thing because if the hardware dies, VZ replaces it, and usually within a couple of days. Tivo hardware failure is more problematic.
Tivo requires added rental of Cablecard(s), not required with FiOS DVR.
Which of the two is better price-wise depends on what you want to put up with. If you're picky, go Tivo. If you're happy with your current FiOS DVR, stick with it.
Since you're asking the question in the first place, you probably have issues with the FiOS DVR. I have neither a DVR nor a Tivo, so my answer will only be based on what I've read.
If you want more space, Tivo is the answer. There's a rumor of larger capacity DVR from VZ, but don't count on it until it's deployed *and* they have a method to ensure you get one. Meanwhile, you're probably going to get what's currently in inventory.
Tivo requires a subscription, but it's just about hands-down the better choice for program data, according to posts I've read in this forum. Accuracy is probably part of your complaint about the FiOS DVR. What subscription plan to get? Check it out at tivo.com, but I'm pretty sure you've been there. Your choice will depend on how much cash you want to put out up front.
Tivo requires a good size chunk of cash for the hardware. 'Nuff said. They're not giving them away, but you can take it with you.
Finally, you'll need to get a Cablecard installed. Some have been charged for it when done outside their initial installation. Others have gotten it done for no additional charge. But, there is a monthly rental fee for an M-card or S-card, and which one you need depends on what model Tivo you get.
These are the main points for your "price-wise" question. There's only one answer currently for "storage-wise": Tivo. You'll need to do your research, because I have a feeling "Just get a Tivo" isn't exactly what you're looking for.
Good luck. |
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  birdfeedr Premium,MVM join:2001-08-11 Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to KenAF said by KenAF :Everything you could ever want to know about TiVo can be found in the AVS TivoHD FAQ. It has common questions and answers, screenshots, and videos of the TiVo in action on FiOS. Good Lord! Everything all in one place! Great link. Bookmarked. |
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  wesm tmb.org Premium join:1999-07-29 Lewisville, TX
| reply to hammery If you want the most storage, get a TiVo HD and one of the Western Digital My DVR Expander 1TB units. That is the supported way to put 1TB+160GB (external plus internal) storage on your TiVo and it works right now. On the other hand, every TiVo unit--including Series 3, which is what you want since it does HD and replaces your Verizon set-top box--can have a larger hard drive installed by the user (at the risk of your warranty) provided you are comfortable with opening the device. TiVo Community.com has a great tutorial on this.
That said, the only "negative" difference in my mind between the Verizon DVR and a TiVo is the upfront cost of the TiVo unit. However, TiVo is running refurbished TiVo HDs for $199 with free shipping. You will pay Verizon $3.99 for the CableCARD needed to allow the TiVo to record Verizon channels and TiVo $12.95 for the first unit. That's $16.94/month compared to $19.99/month for Verizon's HD STB. The second through fifth TiVo units are $9.95/month for a subscription, while a CableCARD is still $3.99. That means units 2-5 are $13.94/month and can record their own two HD streams and share those programs with the other TiVos in your home. Verizon doesn't, to my knowledge, offer a solution that does this. -- Opinions expressed here are mine and not my employer's. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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 zenoland
join:2001-12-08 Garland, TX | reply to birdfeedr Don't you lose Video on Demand if you use a Tivo? In our household we use it a lot to watch broadcast shows and free movies. It's the only thing that has kept me from a Tivo. |
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  darcilicious Cyber Librarian Premium join:2001-01-02 Forest Grove, OR
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| said by zenoland :Don't you lose Video on Demand if you use a Tivo? Yes, if you have no other Vz STBs in the house (TiVo won't do Vz VOD but there are other VOD like services available from TiVo like Netflix, etc, I believe). |
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  aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to birdfeedr All TiVo models can be expanded for more capacity. Even the ones I owned eight years ago could have capacity added by replacing the hard drive.
Better to only have one hard drive to worry about than two. When you have the external Hard drive attached, if one drive has problems and dies you can lose your recordings.
said by birdfeedr :said by hammery :
Which of the two is better price wise and will give me the most storage wise. Comparing subscription plus hardware cost for Tivo to monthly rental for FiOS with "included" data subscription is *very* subjective. Some would say the flaws in VZ program data make the FiOS DVR a poor choice. Others would say free makes the flaws acceptable. Currently, the FiOS DVR does not allow more than 160GB storage. Some Tivo models can be expanded. Some say the upfront hardware expense of Tivo is a lot compared to the monthly rental of FiOS DVR, but others say over time the monthly rental pays for the unit multiple times. Some say the rental is a good thing because if the hardware dies, VZ replaces it, and usually within a couple of days. Tivo hardware failure is more problematic. Tivo requires added rental of Cablecard(s), not required with FiOS DVR. Which of the two is better price-wise depends on what you want to put up with. If you're picky, go Tivo. If you're happy with your current FiOS DVR, stick with it. Since you're asking the question in the first place, you probably have issues with the FiOS DVR. I have neither a DVR nor a Tivo, so my answer will only be based on what I've read. If you want more space, Tivo is the answer. There's a rumor of larger capacity DVR from VZ, but don't count on it until it's deployed *and* they have a method to ensure you get one. Meanwhile, you're probably going to get what's currently in inventory. Tivo requires a subscription, but it's just about hands-down the better choice for program data, according to posts I've read in this forum. Accuracy is probably part of your complaint about the FiOS DVR. What subscription plan to get? Check it out at tivo.com, but I'm pretty sure you've been there. Your choice will depend on how much cash you want to put out up front. Tivo requires a good size chunk of cash for the hardware. 'Nuff said. They're not giving them away, but you can take it with you. Finally, you'll need to get a Cablecard installed. Some have been charged for it when done outside their initial installation. Others have gotten it done for no additional charge. But, there is a monthly rental fee for an M-card or S-card, and which one you need depends on what model Tivo you get. These are the main points for your "price-wise" question. There's only one answer currently for "storage-wise": Tivo. You'll need to do your research, because I have a feeling "Just get a Tivo" isn't exactly what you're looking for. Good luck. |
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  aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to zenoland said by zenoland :Don't you lose Video on Demand if you use a Tivo? In our household we use it a lot to watch broadcast shows and free movies. It's the only thing that has kept me from a Tivo. You can also rent an HD STB from FIOS and have the same VOD functionality. I turned in my HD STB to save the $10 a month since I could get everythig they offered from VOD from digital download sources like, TiVo, VUDU, Xbox Live, PSN, etc. |
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