 jmpage2 join:2005-02-24 Littleton, CO | reply to bbarrera
Re: ZyWALL USG 100 v2.12(AQQ.0)C0 firmware is out Actually it looks like the TZ200 is comparable to the USG 100 but lacks gigabit interfaces (which might not be much of a concern for many enterprises).
The TZ 200 does not have application firewall capability but I'm not sure if that's such a big deal.
It has 35mbps UTM throughput and actually looks like a pretty interesting product but Small Net Builder dinged Sonicwall TZ 190 for having weak hardware reliability. |
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 jmpage2 join:2005-02-24 Littleton, CO | I've been reading more and more about the new Sonicwall TZ series (100/200/210) and I'm really liking what I am reading.
Aside from the sting of not having gig-e interfaces, these UTM routers look quite competent and surprisingly affordable. TZ 100 Wireless-N costs under $500 with a one year license to all UTM services, has zone support, includes one SSL VPN license, supports up to 5 VPN tunnel connections with other gateways, etc.
Starting to look pretty damn good to me. The user documentation and support forum kick the crap out of what I've seen so far of ZyXel too.
Only big downside I'm seeing at the moment is no free access to firmware support, although if you have current licenses for support contracts or UTM services it looks like they throw that in for free. |
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 claykin join:2003-08-22 Fort Lauderdale, FL 2 edits | said by jmpage2:I've been reading more and more about the new Sonicwall TZ series (100/200/210) and I'm really liking what I am reading. Only big downside I'm seeing at the moment is no free access to firmware support, although if you have current licenses for support contracts or UTM services it looks like they throw that in for free. Correct. And have you seen the fees that Sonicwall charges to keep support going? Can you say THIEVES?
And you have to get the Enhanced OS if you want dual WAN load balance. |
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 bbarreraPremium,MVM join:2000-10-23 Sacramento, CA kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Sure but I've got customers using ZyXEL, saving money and not getting what they really want. Its great to save money but if another vendor delivers the right features and the price is reasonable then its money well spent. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Enhanced OS is bundled with TZ100, TZ200 and TZ210. |
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 claykin join:2003-08-22 Fort Lauderdale, FL | Hmmm. Thanks for the clarification that the Enhanced OS comes with the new TZ products. I just confirmed that myself. I also see that the support pricing for the TZ series is a little less painful. Not too bad for Sonicwall. I guess the poor economy has gotten them to rethink their pricing strategies. |
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 claykin join:2003-08-22 Fort Lauderdale, FL 1 edit | reply to bbarrera said by bbarrera:Sure but I've got customers using ZyXEL, saving money and not getting what they really want. Its great to save money but if another vendor delivers the right features and the price is reasonable then its money well spent. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Enhanced OS is bundled with TZ100, TZ200 and TZ210. Can you share some of the issues your customers have with Zyxel USG series units? Is it mostly related to SSL VPN support on Windows Vista/7? |
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 jmpage2 join:2005-02-24 Littleton, CO 1 edit | reply to claykin The prices are not bad at all. Buying a TZ 100 bundled with 1 year of full support, enhanced OS, updates, 24X7 tech support is under $320.
3 years of full support is only another $270.
That's actually very reasonable, especially as their full applications suite now throws in 24X7 support, content filtering, warranty extension all in addition to the standard AV, anti-spam, etc.
I like the fact that they bundle in an SSL and standard client license for VPN too so that both can be tried out.
I have gone ahead and ordered a TZ100 wireless from firewalls.com and they matched sonicguard prices. I will give this a shot in my wife's business and we'll see how it goes. I wish the box had dual gig-e interfaces so that I could put servers and workstations in different zones but I will live without that as I'm much more concerned with external threats anyway.
The SSL license, DHCP over VPN, etc, at these prices, not to mention running 1.5X faster than USG 100 clinches it for me. |
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 bbarreraPremium,MVM join:2000-10-23 Sacramento, CA kudos:1 Reviews:
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1 edit | reply to claykin said by claykin:Can you share some of the issues your customers have with Zyxel USG series units? Is it mostly related to SSL VPN support on Windows Vista/7? Yes, Vista/7 along with Mac OS X. |
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 claykin join:2003-08-22 Fort Lauderdale, FL | reply to jmpage2 said by jmpage2:The prices are not bad at all. Buying a TZ 100 bundled with 1 year of full support, enhanced OS, updates, 24X7 tech support is under $320. 3 years of full support is only another $270. That's actually very reasonable, especially as their full applications suite now throws in 24X7 support, content filtering, warranty extension all in addition to the standard AV, anti-spam, etc. I like the fact that they bundle in an SSL and standard client license for VPN too so that both can be tried out. I have gone ahead and ordered a TZ100 wireless from firewalls.com and they matched sonicguard prices. I will give this a shot in my wife's business and we'll see how it goes. I wish the box had dual gig-e interfaces so that I could put servers and workstations in different zones but I will live without that as I'm much more concerned with external threats anyway. The SSL license, DHCP over VPN, etc, at these prices, not to mention running 1.5X faster than USG 100 clinches it for me. Please let us know how it works for you. I'm very interested. |
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 BranoI hate VogonsPremium,MVM join:2002-06-25 Burlington, ON kudos:3 | Yes, please post back. |
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 jmpage2 join:2005-02-24 Littleton, CO 2 edits | I will report back in about a week and a half assuming that the unit ships out on time.
I ordered this device;
»www.firewalls.com/sonicwall-soni···ear.html
Which they were kind enough to PM against this;
»www.sonicguard.com/TZ100Wireless.asp
So we paid $371.95 for the wireless TZ 100 with a full year on all services as well as content filtering, reporting engine, etc. This gives us the added benefit of a much needed upgrade from the weak sauce WRT54GL wireless access point currently deployed and eliminates two devices from our management pool in one go (we also will retire the Linksys RV042 that I want to hit with a hammer as I hate it so much). If things work out I will add another 3 yrs of support for $266 which is pretty reasonable as it includes all services and 24/7 tech support.
I have a lot of experience with routers and switches (I do VoIP/SIP stuff for a living) but very little security/UTM type experience so this will be an interesting test. I have heard good things about the Ehanced OS for Sonic so we will see how it goes with this new TZ series UTM.
I will let you all know how it goes. |
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