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rhino1

join:2009-06-24
Torrance, CA

 VOIP Using Existing Phone Jacks

We just got VOIP and would like to run it through existing jacks in our townhouse.

Line 1 in the house was the POTS line that we just cancelled, and would like to connect the VOIP to. Line 2 is another POTS line that we'll keep, which has DSL service on it.

I started running into trouble when I attempted to disconnect Line 1 at the NID.

I have attached a picture of the NID. We are 1726.

My questions are:

1. Do I just need to select the Line 1 pair of wires, and disconnect them?

2 Which pair of wires is likely to be Line 1? The white and blue/white ones?

3 Do I need a certain tool to remove the wires, or is there some easy way to do it? It's a tight space and the wires are in there pretty snugly. I tried using a plastic crochet hook, without success. It was too wide and not strong enough.

4 If I have selected the wrong wires, how do I reattach the removed wires?

5. Is there a name for this type of NID?

6 Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance for your help.


PX Eliezer
Premium
join:2008-08-09
New Jersey
This may help with some of your questions:

»michigantelephone.workbench.net/

rhino1

join:2009-06-24
Torrance, CA
thanks, but not specific enough for my situation.


MichiganTel

@anonymouse.org

reply to rhino1
1. You could select the line 1 pair and disconnect it there, but in this situation it would be far better to disconnect it at the first phone jack that the line comes to inside the home, if you can figure out which one that is.

2. Most likely, yes (see my page that PX Eliezer gave the link to, which explains how pairs are color-coded. Thanks for the link, BTW).

3. You're being too gentle. A pair of long nose pliers is the tool usually used (if your fingers aren't sufficient), and with those blocks you sometimes have to give the wire a pretty good yank (after first carefully pulling it out of the plastic separator). But again, I'd disconnect it at the first jack inside the house if possible. Depending on where you live and the circumstances involved, it may not even be legal for you to disconnect your wiring at this block.

4. To do it right you'd need a punchdown tool (for a type 66 block) and those cost a bit of money (not to mention the knowledge to use one correctly). The upside is that Home Depot and similar stores probably carry them now (although tools for the newer 110 blocks are more common, but that's not what you have), the downside is they still aren't all that cheap.

5. It's not a NID, it's a type 66 block - see »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/66_block - and unless you are the building owner and you installed the thing, you probably shouldn't be messing with it.

6. Yes - I strongly urge you to try and find the other end of the wire that connects to this block (the first jack it comes to inside your home) and disconnect the wire there, if possible. Because if you disconnect it at the 66 block and some installer or repair tech comes along, more than likely he's going to "helpfully" reconnect it, whereas it's not likely he's going to trespass inside your townhouse. And, if you accidentally disconnect someone else's service, you could be setting yourself up for some legal liability.

rhino1

join:2009-06-24
Torrance, CA
SUPER HELPFUL!!!

Thanks so much!
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