rainor94
join:2009-03-05
| Bell Entertainment (IPTV) Setup
Today I received a confirmation email from Bell. In it it said the TVs should be relatively close to the coaxial outlet. Since it's IPTV can't it be run only on network cables? All my TVs have a network cable close to them. If it can't should I run a coaxial cable from my router to to where I have the bundle of coaxial cables witch run throughout my house?
I am wondering how they will setup the system in my house. Also if anyone has some speed test on this service it would be great so see them!
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | They only provide one modem/terminal and from there for television they run coax from the terminal to each TV. Internet is using straight Ethernet. They will install the terminal where the telephone and coax wiring are coming into your residence. |
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rainor94
join:2009-03-05 | Ok
Do you also know what the speeds to expect? Is it 20mb for one receiver and 30mb for 3? Also what are the upload speeds? |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | I believe the downstream is still 24 Mbps and 1 Mbps upstream. Note this is SHARED between TV and internet so 3 TV streams will give you much less bandwidth for internet when in use. |
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flummox
join:2006-12-04
St John'S, NL
| reply to rainor94
It can run on either/or. Mine is running on both (1 ether, 2 coax.) The Modem has 4 100bt ethernet ports and 1 coax which can be split.
Speeds are very nice - but vary with how much TV you are watching.
This was with no TV, I think in my case the modem reports being synced at 30/15
»www.speedtest.net/result/461320201.png |
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rainor94
join:2009-03-05
| reply to mlerner
I thought that you started with something like 24mb and for each extra receiver you got they gave you 5mb plus. 24mb+5mb+5mb=34mb? I think that's what I was first told a few months ago when I first spoke to them. I forgot to ask them when I ordered. |
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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | reply to rainor94
They may have changed it recently to support additional speeds but as of February it was still 24/1. |
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flummox
join:2006-12-04
St John'S, NL | reply to rainor94
Checked the modem,
Down/upstream line rate 37/18
Down/upstream payload rate 30/15 |
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Mauricio
aka CigaR
Premium
join:2008-12-06
| said by flummox  :Checked the modem, Down/upstream line rate 37/18 Down/upstream payload rate 30/15 Meaning this is VDSL2 right ?
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flummox
join:2006-12-04
St John'S, NL | reply to rainor94
Not sure.
The tab I click on to get the line info says "VDSL" but a few things on that page say VDSL2.
But given that the same page says my max line rate is 60 or 70 mbps I supose it would have to be. |
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rainor94
join:2009-03-05
| Since you already have the service, I have a few questions.
Is the router locked or will I have access to it? I have a small server at home and some security cameras, will I be able to set up everything so I can view them remotely?
Is video on demand included in the $75 package?
Are you happy with this service? Have you had any problems?
Is there a maximum bandwith fee after you go above 60gb?
Does internet or tv have much down time?
Thx
Also is there anyone else on these forums with this service? What is your opinion and what are your speeds? |
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Madwand
join:2002-12-03
Toronto, ON | reply to rainor94
Also, is the modem locked to your Sympatico account, or can you login from another provider? |
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flummox
join:2006-12-04
St John'S, NL
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Router seems unlocked. I can click on just about everything on the page that shows up when I go to 192.168.2.1. I have port forwarding rules (including a slingbox and web/nanny cam) for about 6 different things setup and have changed the wifi settings from their defaults.
Video on Demand is included but I haven't found any free content yet so I haven't tried it.
The whole home PVR rocks. And being able to record/watch live up to 4 streams is nice too. I can record two things and watch another live while someone else watches a recorded show elsewhere. The channel changes are almost fast enough so you can "surf" again like you used to on analogue cable. I've had some skipping issues but they seem to have been resolved now that my previous wiring has been replaced. No other outages as such but overall, I'd say it's not as stable as the expressvu service I had before. I just replaced the last coax I had with a dedicated ethernet so give me a week to see if it's stable now. But it worked fine through the rain storms we've had recently so rain/snow fade is no longer an issue.
Wifi coverage is ok but I had better range with the previous 2wire gateway. (once I turned up the power on the 2wire)
The Sympatico usage page says $1.25/GB up to $30 max, I haven't called in about insurance programs but another user said they weren't available. I mean to call in and find out now that the $5/40Gb offer is out there.
So relatively happy. The TV experience has some pluses and some minuses but the internet speeds are very nice. It's the first speed increase I've seen where even web browsing seems visibly faster.
Picture quality (comparing back to back when I had both esxpressvu and IPTV for a day) was better for SD on IPTV and about the same for HD.
Channel selection is still less then what expressvu offers but it's nice to have the US Buffalo stations back instead of Boston.
Madwand: haven't tried to log in with another provider since I don't have an id for one. The "b1" & pass section is not locked on the router. |
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beltzner
@mozilla.com
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Just ordered the Extra package, due to be installed in a few weeks and I'll report back on how it goes.
Interestingly when I called for availability, they ran two tests. The first one failed (maybe a fiber loop test?) and so I was pretty sure I wasn't going to be able to sign up. The second test apparently came back as "29,000" which meant that I had a profile of "27", which they said would be good enough for "two TVs plus Internet." I only have one TV, and consistent with what others here have written about a TV requiring 5mbit, they said I can expect 23mbit down, 9mbit up for Internet.
I was also concerned because I'd had to cancel Sympatico Internet previously as I wasn't getting the advertised throughput, and they claimed that was likely due to an old POTS switch between my house and the CO. Apparently when they do the install they'll replace that, though. So I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
After suffering through a Rogers HD PVR for so long, I'm basically willing to do anything to get off of it. |
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rainor94
join:2009-03-05
| Beltzner I also had ordered The Extra package when I first ordered two weeks or so ago. The day after installation I called Bell up and told them I want the Super. I think it's worth it... the extra channels you get are actually really good and when you search through the guide you usually won't get a message saying you aren't subscribed to this channel.
Well what I can tell you of installation is it takes a few hours. They first test your line where it enters your house and they usually like a dedicated line from where the line enters the house to the modem/router. They require the main box to be connected through an internet cable and the rest are ok if they are connected through coaxial cable. My house had all internet cables and it was fine.
The service is great, quality is great the only thing that sucks is the Bandwidth is only 60gb a month and you get charged a maximum of $30 if you go above that.
Here is one of my speed tests:
If you have any questions just ask. |
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KillerApp
@videotron.ca
| Definately looks like a nice service, can't wait for it to get in my area, 4 Mb upload, great for running an HTTP site for family and stuff. + 30$ extra and it's unlimited downloads at these speeds, could get a blue ray movie from usernet in an hour or so! |
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TheOther Vid
@videotron.ca
| said by KillerApp :
+ 30$ extra and it's unlimited
Be careful how you interpret that.
Bell has sent Disconnect/Abuse letter to people who did something like 300 or 500-gigs in the past.
One person posted his letters here.
Got an Abuse warning at 500-gig.
Bell didn't tell him, and refused to tell him, what limit to stay under. He kept it at 300-gig or a bit less.
Then he got his disconnect letter for continued abuse.
So take that 30$ unlimited with a very large grain of salt and don't believe everything from Bell unless you get it in writing from Bell defining it. |
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RCMP1234
join:2007-08-10
 ·Bell Sympatico
| reply to rainor94
I just signed up the entertainment service (switched from bell max 16).
So from my understanding your internet profile begins at 23mbps/9mbps and for every additional tv you have, they add an extra 5+ to your download speed?
but why does flummox have aprofile of 30/15 then? |
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rainor94
join:2009-03-05
| said by RCMP1234 :I just signed up the entertainment service (switched from bell max 16). So from my understanding your internet profile begins at 23mbps/9mbps and for every additional tv you have, they add an extra 5+ to your download speed? but why does flummox have aprofile of 30/15 then? I think the profile begins at 24mb/9mb and for each extra tv +5mb. The thing is that it really depends on your line and well I have done many speed tests and they all come up similar even if I have one or two tvs on my speed tests come out the same. The service is really great the speeds are fine. When I had 3 tvs on 2 on HD I think I still got 16mb. Ill do a few tests with the tvs when im back in Toronto Wednesday and post them here. |
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rainor94
join:2009-03-05
| reply to KillerApp
said by KillerApp :
Definately looks like a nice service, can't wait for it to get in my area, 4 Mb upload, great for running an HTTP site for family and stuff. + 30$ extra and it's unlimited downloads at these speeds, could get a blue ray movie from usernet in an hour or so!
I am Running a home server at home and it's working great. I also have some security camera's and they are now much smoother to watch remotely.
You can check out my website if you want:
My Photo Gallery Website |
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