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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : I think I see the game plan here.  <i>It's a vast right-wing nutjob conspiracy.</i>  He's not gonna post again until the winter flu season is over, thereby convincing the rest of you poor wankers that getting THE SHOT is a VERY BAD IDEA (also known as VBI).  Those of you who don't get the jab and don't die will never know the difference.  Of course, those of you who don't get the jab and <b>then</b> die, ... well, we won't hear from you again, anyway.  Interestingly, the same is true of those of you who ignore his fear, get the jab, and then <b>do</b> die.  That leaves us with the little minor problem of the millions who get the jab and <b>don't</b> die either, but we're going to ignore them, right?  :uhh:<br><br>Also, take care to avoid confusing 'second coming' with reincarnation; these are two <b>entirely</b> distinct concepts!  ;)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : wonko!  we thought you was dead already!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Wonko3fc is officially pig proof and has a certificate to prove it. <br><br>But!!! OMG!! it was like a scene from a Victorian medical lab...<br><br>Children crying, elderly people pleading with their relatives not to do this to them, folks being restrained and the screaming?<br><br>I counted at least 31 corpses whilst there and I even heard one of the GP's administering complain that they would run out of body bags before vaccine shots.<br><br>It was awful. In fact, it was so bad, I was going to write to my MP to complain but I suspect he is behind it all anyway :mad:<br><br>Well, not certain I'll survive long enough to post again. Farewell everyone - I love you all :p]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : How did we end up talking about fruit flies? . . . Oh, wait ... I get it!  :D<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : I wanted to leave a lasting legacy ;-)<br><br>Millions will benefit for countless generations]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I've only got four days to live...<br></div>So you're spending them reading this thread?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : I've only got four days to live...<br><br>My friend, a HCP in Canada, had his several weeks ago, he's dead too, I know this because he wrote and told me....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/960046"><b>poacher 1rtd</b></A> : 37 photos total)<br><br> Watching the H1N1 flu pandemic<br>Health officials around the world are stepping up vaccination efforts and are closely tracking the progress of the H1N1/09 virus (often referred to as "swine flu" in the media). World Health Organization officials recently noted that the virus has spread to virtually every country in the world, reaching as far as remote tribes in Venezuela and aboriginal populations in Australia. Although the number of deaths attributed to H1N1 this year (over 7,000 to date) remains low compared to a normal seasonal flu outbreak of several hundred thousand deaths in a year, health officials remain concerned because of the instability of H1N1/09 combined with its tendency to affect younger healthier people. Collected here are photos of people around the world preparing for and dealing with the current H1N1 pandemic.<br><br> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/11/watching_the_h1n1_flu_pandemic.html" >www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/1&middot;&middot;&middot;mic.html</A><br><small>--<br>They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old <br>Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. <br>At the going down of the sun and in the morning <br>We will remember them.<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : They have their own <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones">astronomical device</a> though it's not so impressive as the <A HREF="http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/10/stonehenge.jpg">druidic implementation</a>.<br><br>(Note to the uninitiated: this is one of the vital clues by which the initiates know the Bilderburgers, Illuminati, Obama, etc., are intent on killing off most of the world's population.)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>said by dave :</small><hr>"We're going to see much more lethal strains [of the virus] showing up by October".<hr></blockquote>Im not sure when this was taken Dave,it may have been a few months ago....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Maybe they use a Julian calendar?  Or (better yet), Mayan???  :uhh:<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : "We're going to see much more lethal strains [of the virus] showing up by October".]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : <p><div style='z-index:0; text-align:center;display:block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WRjY_x08Bj8"><param name=wmode value="transparent"><embed wmode="transparent" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WRjY_x08Bj8" type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='425' height='350' allowscriptaccess='samedomain'></embed></object></div></p><center> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRjY_x08Bj8" >www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRjY_x08Bj8</A></center><br><br>I can only hope that Joseph Moshe has not been compromised in some way!!<br><br>The man talking on the video pretty much sums up the whole agenda thats going to unfold..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Were you looking for this?  I forget. . . <p><div style='z-index:0; text-align:center;display:block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cz2ET5K6zY0"><param name=wmode value="transparent"><embed wmode="transparent" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cz2ET5K6zY0" type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='425' height='350' allowscriptaccess='samedomain'></embed></object></div></p><center> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz2ET5K6zY0" >www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz2ET5K6zY0</A></center>  <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Please stop posting the ravings of paranoid Americans in the 'UK chat' forum.  It's getting tedious.  There's a forum especially for conspiracy nutjobs on this site.<br><br>FWIW,  <A HREF="http://drfitt.com">here</a> is the web site of the estimable Dr. Mitchell.  Looks like a sober medical enterprise, don't it?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Medical Doctor Retracts H1N1 Vaccine Advice After Reading Insert<br><br>Kevin Copenhagen<br>Prisonplanet.com<br>Saturday, Nov 14th, 2009<br><br>The following video highlights a retraction made by a medical doctor, Dr. Roby Mitchell, after he initially advised a group of nurses to take the H1N1 Swine Flu vaccine. Once he had read the actual package insert which comes with the vaccine and realized that the vaccine makers themselves admit it is untested and may cause a myriad of disorders to include paralysis, neurological damage, possible sterilization <b>and may cause fetal harm in pregnant women (one of the high priority groups targeted to get the vaccine),</b> he retracted his advice so that they would have informed consent.<br><br>His reading of the insert also revealed that an adjuvant called MF 59, which is similar to the squalene molecule found in our normal nerve tissue, is indeed in the H1N1 vaccine after we&#146;ve been told that adjuvants had been removed. We need more doctors like this one in our country who use their common sense and not talking points from the media and pharmaceutical industry when giving advice to their patients and colleagues. My sincere compliments go out to Dr. Mitchell.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.prisonplanet.com/medical-doctor-retracts-h1n1-vaccine-advice-after-reading-insert.html" >www.prisonplanet.com/medical-doc&middot;&middot;&middot;ert.html</A><br><br>Kinda says it all really. I wonder if women are allowed to read this insert! (I WOULD HOPE IF THEY DID,THEY WOULD REFUSE LIKE CRAZY!)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : I think this should be enough to convince even idiots that this is a BIG DEPOPULATION EVENT GOING ON!!<br><br>Pregnant women LOSING BABIES AFTER VACCINE!<br><br>Right on the vaccine insert it says "Not safe for pregnant women" Yet they are encouraging pregnant women take this crap!! (ITS SAD HOW MANY ARE)<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/29/some-pregnant-women-fearful-of-h1n1-vaccine.htm#gB3" >miscarriage.about.com/b/2009/09/&middot;&middot;&middot;.htm#gB3</A><br><br>Some Comments<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>October 9, 2009 at 2:41 pm(1) Jo says: <br>I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.<br><br>October 26, 2009 at 11:07 am(2) Regrets says: <br>I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!<br><br>October 29, 2009 at 8:33 am(3) :( says: <br>i work in a hospital like setting and was told &#145;the benefits outweigh the risks&#148; 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide<br><br>October 31, 2009 at 1:29 pm(4) sue says: <br>I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.<br><br>October 31, 2009 at 8:25 pm(5) Linda Hill says: <br>My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried. <hr></blockquote>God help us!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Wow! I don't believe it!!<br><br><small>Cultural reference: Try looking up 'Wonko the Sane' From Douglas Adam's H2G2 books - interesting character - has a rather unique perspective - hence my username  :D</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Today's Boston Globe reported that it's raining here in eastern Massachusetts.  I guess you don't believe them, huh?  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Oh dont worry bud,I DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING MSM!!! (Especially if it comes from the USA)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Dave is a good guy <br></div>I know he is.<br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>MSM is very ONE SIDED and FILTERED (Especially here in the USA)<br> </div>So watch something else and don't believe everything you read on the net.<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Dave is a good guy and it makes me feel bad he wont try and learn.........<br><br>MSM is very ONE SIDED and FILTERED (Especially here in the USA)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:48:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : Mainstream media is evil. The government is evil. Scientists are evil. <strike>dave is evil</strike>. Woops, got carried away, there. Sorry, dave.<br><br>You don't believe the media, I don't believe everything I read on the internet.<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Dave cant accept the evilness of this world,like most people i think he is blinded by anything except MAINSTREAM MEDIA which is sad...... Ya try and help the guy and he wont even consider it......]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>She didnt make anything up Dave!<br> </div>Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.<br><br>Dude 9000<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : You need to watch out, Dud111. The CIA are going to kill you just like they killed Michael Jackson, if you go round talking about Jane Burgermeister.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290" >www.davidicke.com/forum/showthre&middot;&middot;&middot;?t=70290</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>She didnt make anything up Dave!<br> </div>Blah blah trilateral commission Bilderburg new world order Illuminati.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Yup! 10:30 sat 21st is my turn :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : She didnt make anything up Dave!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : You've got that Glenn Beck wingnut approach down pat, of using words that are intended to claim "it was deliberate" but stop short of saying it was deliberate.<br><br>Also, you forgot to tell us that it was your old buddy Jane Burgermeister spreading the conspiracy viewpoint, presumably back in April before she got fired for making shit up.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : I would recommend vaccination.  ;)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Is there no end to this torture?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : BAXTER ADMITTING ON POLISH 'MAINSTREAM' TV THEY CONTAMINATED 72 KILOS OF VACCINE WITH BIRD FLU<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://files.ww.com/files/59996.html" >files.ww.com/files/59996.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/973490"><b>Ignite</b></A> : I want the time I spent reading this thread back :(]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : For those who've misplaced their cultural reference, see &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ealing-Comedy-DVD-Collection-Ladykillers/dp/B00006G9WJ" >www.amazon.co.uk/Ealing-Comedy-D&middot;&middot;&middot;0006G9WJ</A> <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think I've lost my cultural reference point...<br> </div>You can't be serious! That's one of my favourite Ealing films along with The Lady Killers (not the awful remake) which could be the best film they made.<br><br>It's years since an Ealing comedy was shown on TV :(<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I think I've lost my cultural reference point...<br> </div>It's BEHIND you!  :uhh:<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : I think I've lost my cultural reference point...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Don't mind me, I'm just kibbitzing.  <br><br>Still, brings up an interesting question, doesn't it?  What <b>is</b> the moral of "The Man in the White Suit"?  ;)<br><br>Next week, we'll do "The Boy with Green Hair".<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : I'm not sure whose side you're taking with that comment - but good reference!  (You've really 'gone native' once you start dropping references to Ealing comedies).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Sort of like "The Man in the White Suit"?<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : D'oh, you're right. Because of course no-one actually in possession of a cure for cancer would be able to sell a cure for cancer. It would be worthless in the marketplace. No-one's interested in a cure for cancer. No-one would pay for that sort of thing.<br><br>Instead, it's much more sensible to keep it a secret and hope no-one else discovers it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> :   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>CANCER CONSPIRACY? Are "they" suppressing the cure? <hr></blockquote><br>Many think they are Dave!!<br><br>If a cure was found,it would mean they couldnt get rich anymore selling supposed things to make it better! (I myself dont doubt they may be blocking the cure)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : And there was I thinking he knew everything...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : You have to understand that dave (not being in Ohio, of course) still suffers from the delusion that rational discourse is possible.  :uhh:<br><br><small> Now, if he <b>were</b> in Ohio, . . . . </small>  :)<br><small>-- <br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : dave, I want to say that I really admire you patience.<br><br>Ah man.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : I'm not.  But when considering the message, I also consider the messenger.  You can figure out all you need to know about Jonesey's web site by the presence of crap like this:<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>CANCER CONSPIRACY? Are "they" suppressing the cure? Will YOU be the next victim? Learn the Secret Truth! - READ FULL STORY.<hr></blockquote><br><br>How does this differ from the crap 'news'papers they peddle at supermarket checkouts, exactly?<br><br>Also, I can recognize selective quoting when I see it. Here, let me quote from one of Jone's sources (emphasis mine).<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>But several metro area hospitals said they won&#146;t be taking the FluMist because they don&#146;t want to endanger patients.<br><br>When asked if that meant that FluMist was dangerous, Lois VanFleet, infection prevention specialist at Exempla Good Samaritan Medical Center in Lafayette said,<b> "No, it's a very safe vaccine in healthy people."</b><br><hr></blockquote><br><br>But tin-foil boy only pays attention to the "hospitals won't be taking..." part of the article.<br><br>Also, it says this on Jone's web site:<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>According to studies, &#147;the odds of transmitting the virus after receiving the nasal spray are about 2.5 percent,&#148; with children the most susceptible.<hr></blockquote><br><br>Unfortunately, the link is now dead. But if you followed the link, it went on to say that those to whom the virus was transmitted did NOT develop an infection: exposure to virus != get infected by virus.  (They probably gave numbers but I don't recall them).<br><br>Apropos the inhaler - yeah, it's not appropriate for people with depressed immune systems.  But it says that on the packaging.  Is it therefore appropriate to use in hospitals? I don't know, but I'm willing to let trained hospital staff figure that out, rather than relying on a deluded paranoid with a web site.<br><br>I recommend adding the following web site to your daily reading list; then you'll perhaps learn how to interpret what you read.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.badscience.net/" >www.badscience.net/</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Why are you dead set against even considering anything other than MAINSTREAM info??]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : I'm through trying to knock sense into your anti-scientific head.  You might, however, look up the phrase "not even wrong".<br><br>One question though, why are you spewing Alex Jones's paranoid junk in the UK Forum, of all places?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : This is a great article:-<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ineffectiveness-and-Danger-by-Stephen-Lendman-091005-937.html" >www.opednews.com/articles/Ineffe&middot;&middot;&middot;937.html</A><br><br><br><br><b>Doctors: FluMist Vaccine Could Spread H1N1 Virus </b><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.prisonplanet.com/doctors-concerned-flumist-vaccine-could-spread-live-h1n1-virus.html" >www.prisonplanet.com/doctors-con&middot;&middot;&middot;rus.html</A><br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>With 60 per cent of the U.S. population at risk, is swine flu nasal spray a pandemic waiting to happen?<br><br>Doctors and hospitals are expressing concern that the FluMist vaccine could endanger people because it contains live H1N1 virus, unlike the injectable shot that contains antibodies. With no less than 60 per cent of the U.S. population immunodeficient in one way or another, could FluMist be a pandemic waiting to happen? [more]<hr></blockquote>I was concerned about these stupid mist things last week in this manner (As well as others are also)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Just like conspiracy nuts everywhere, you construe a difference of opinion as a deliberate attempt to lie to you.  If you can find someone who claims X, and then someone else who claims not-X, you will assert that one of them is part of some huge plot to fool the public.<br><br>Here are several things for you to consider:<br><br>0.  No large organization speaks with a single voice.<br><br>1.  Linkage is a statistical phenomenon, not a yes/no issue.<br><br>2.  Beware <i>post hoc, ergo propter hoc</i> arguments.<br><br>3.  Even if (for arguments' sake) the 1976 US swine flu vaccine was the cause of G-B syndrome, this is not a comment on all vaccines.<br><br>4.  It is prudent to tell all professionals at the point of vaccine delivery to 'watch out for G-B syndrome' even if you believe there is no linkage.<br><br>But that's probably too sober an analysis for you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : This is how stupid they think we are Dave!!<br><br><br>Read the LAST PARAGRAPH of this article<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.theage.com.au/national/vaccine-claims-rejected-20090919-fw56.html" >www.theage.com.au/national/vacci&middot;&middot;&middot;w56.html</A><br><br><br>Then go to slide #66 of this.......<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.public.health.wa.gov.au/cproot/2487/2/Training%20PowerpointPanvax.pdf" >www.public.health.wa.gov.au/cpro&middot;&middot;&middot;nvax.pdf</A><br><br>HOW CAN THEY BLATENTLY LIE TO THE PUBLIC!!!!!!?????<br><br>I swear to god things are going to get extremly bad if more and more dont wake up and take a stand!!!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : They don't scare me.<br><br>1) Note that all the adverse events were mild/moderate.  They include the usual sort of "my arm is a bit sore" complaints.  The researchers asked about certain specific reactions that they considered possible. In addition, people will will report other things (that may or may not have anything to do with the vaccine).  Those are the 'unsolicited adverse events'. We already know that there were no serious adverse reactions, and the tabulation of the unsolicited ones is all that remains to do.<br><br>2) Of course not; they'd be fools to think that a 100-person trial establishes safety beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Does that mean the 100-person trial should not be done? No.  And obviously they mention Guilllain-Barre, since that's on everyone's mind - it needs to be watched for even if it is not expected to happen with this vaccine.<br><br>3) Again, you have misunderstood the study. This study merely measured the immunogenic reaction to the vaccine. That's a good indicator of effectiveness, but the true measure of effectivenesss is "not getting the virus afterwards". That can only be done statistically, since it'd be immoral to give people the vaccine and then deliberatly expose them to the virus.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Well, I'll be honest, I've barely looked at this thread but from the scant few entries I have read, it looks fascinating. :o<br><br>I've learnt recently, that I am top of the list to receive the vaccine, after the HCP's have had theirs (or not). :uhh:<br><br>Will I have it? 'Course I blooming will - no intention of dropping dead because of a blooming German pig. :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Well these 3 quotes are a bit scarisome!<br><br>"Data regarding unsolicited adverse events are being collected but are unavailable for this preliminary report".<br><br>"The full safety profile of H1N1 vaccine has not yet been elucidated. Population-based postlicensure surveillance will be required for all H1N1 vaccines, especially to assess rare outcomes, such as the Guillain&#150;Barr&eacute; syndrome".<br><br>"Finally, estimates of the true effect of the vaccine when used in mass immunization programs will come from vaccine-effectiveness studies". ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Indeed, looks like a promising initial test of an H1N1 vaccine.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMoa0907413" >content.nejm.org/cgi/content/ful&middot;&middot;&middot;a0907413</A><br><br><b>Make sure to click the PDF link and print out a copy for yourself!!</b><br><br>These results are not surprising!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/394638"><b>Jtmo</b></A> : See, we wear tin foil hats no matter where we live.<br>Vaccines may be strongly pushed, but no one is forced to accept them.<br>Yes, there is some risk in Flu vaccines and many of us will not take them.<br><br>I am allergic to Penicillin, and many people get sick from those allergies, 400 die each year in the USA.<br><br>So, should we ban it, no.<br>Same with measles shots, and all the other nasty diseases that used to be common. There are risks, but they are outweighed by the common good of millions of people NOT getting sick.<br><br>Pertussis<br><br>Polio-the Crippling disease of yesteryear, now making a comeback thanks to tin foil hats<br><br>Mumps-nothing like swollen testicles. Please do not get this one, we need to clean the gene pool.<br><br>Hep A and B-6000 die each year in the USA, millions infected.<br>Tetanus shots- Three of 10 who get this from a cut Die.<br><br>And many, many more.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : That article was written by one Jane B&uuml;rgermeister. She seems like a sensible well-balanced person to me.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by other paranoid website :</small><br><br>Jane B&uuml;rgermeister contends offshore banksters <i>[sic]</i> have cooked up an engineered flu virus in order to realize their eugenics plan for mass extermination.<br></div><div class="bquote">B&uuml;rgermeister says the core group sets its strategic goals in secret using the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg meetings. &#147;It can be identified as the &#145;Illuminati,&#146; a mafia-like group with family dynasties at its center.&#148; It is the &#147;world&#146;s first truly global crime syndicate&#148; based in &#147;off shore banking centers&#148; and employs international organizations such as the UN and WHO.<br></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/960046"><b>poacher 1rtd</b></A> : Refusing a WHO-mandated vaccination has been criminalized under provisions related to public health emergencies. Police can use deadly force against "criminal suspects," that means, they can take you to prison or even shoot you if you refuse.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=356:forced-mass-vaccinations&catid=42:rokstories&lang=en" >www.theflucase.com/index.php?opt&middot;&middot;&middot;&lang=en</A><br><br> People who believe this must live in dreamland, nobody here is being forced into anything, it`s my choice if I have the vaccination.<br><small>--<br>If you resolve to give up smoking, drinking and loving, you don't actually live longer; it just seems longer&#148; Clement Freud<br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.theflucase.com" >www.theflucase.com</A><br><br><br><br># Austrian police chief investigating Baxter forced to resign<br># Pfizer pleads guilty to felony crime and fraudulent marketing, has to pay 2.3 billion in fines<br># WHO Admits to Releasing Pandemic Virus into Population via 'Mock-Up' Vaccines<br># Criminal charges to be filed against French Minister of Health and Interior of secret mass vaccination document<br># EMERGENCY UPDATE: Maine under martial law: Governor proclaims civil emergency over "swine flu" pandemic. WHO and Rockefeller takes charge<br># CDC H1N1 forced qurantine docs leak<br># Taxpayers fund bumper pharma "swine flu" profits<br># Is Baxter preparing to put nano chips into the "swine flu" jab?<br># French doctor calls for resistance to the "Beast" of forced "swine flu" vaccinations<br># Novartis produces one-shot toxic "swine flu" jab<br># Immunocontraceptive hidden in the flu vaccine<br># Quebec moves under military rule of WHO<br># European medicines agency admits "swine flu" vaccination is a huge biological experiment ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Well maybe they havent started it yet but they can now that the bill was pa$$ed bud!<br> </div>You do understand how laws are made, right?  This is not yet MA law (though I'd agree it probably will be). "Passed by the senate" does not make it law.<br><br>I'm not sure what you mean by "started it", but I'd guess you're referring to compulsory vaccination, and the bill does not have any such component.  Once again. I challenge you to show the wording that says it does. I suspect your sources have simply failed to comprehend Section 14.<br><br>Btw, S.18 has been amended and is now S.2028.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm" >www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/&middot;&middot;&middot;2028.htm</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Well maybe they havent started it yet but they can now that the bill was pa$$ed bud!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Not at all; it's just that I only listen to people who can construct a coherent argument and write it down in English sentences.<br><br>Not to mention understand what they read. It is simply a lie that the pending MA S.18 bill provides for a thousand-dollar fine for refusing vaccination, and yet you freely quote from places that claim that's exactly what it says. It is simply asinine to claim that the body 'manufactures' viruses to 'cleanse it' of toxins. There's simply no arguing with idiots like that.<br><br>Show me the words in MA S.18 that provide for that penalty. Show me a peer-reviewed article by a biologist propounding that theory of viral life. This is not a refusal to think outside the box; it is a refusal to go along with someone else's insanity.<br><br>(Edit: fixed 1-character typo)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Its time to WAKE UP dave.....<br><br>Im not going to waste my time trying with someone who refuses to look OUTSIDE THE BOX and only believe what MAINSTREAM sources tell you.....<br><br>Yes i got the article from the DI site (Although i had to find the link for the article on my own (They didnt supply it))]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : I don't find these words on any WHO web site:<br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>When testing these mock-up vaccines, it is very possible to release the novel influenza virus into the population, as its purpose is to &#147;mimic the novelty of a pandemic virus&#148; and &#147;greatly expedite regulatory approval.&#148;<br><hr></blockquote><br><br>The preceding words were WHO's:<br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>One such method used in Europe is to conduct advance studies using a &#147;mock-up&#148; vaccine that contains an active ingredient for an influenza virus that has not circulated recently in human populations.<br><hr></blockquote><br><br>I suppose that the people you quote, presumably from madman Icke's web site, mix actual WHO quotes with other commentary, either because they intend to confuse matters or because they don't know the difference, I can't be sure which.<br><br>The whole thing you posted seems to have been cut'n'pasted all over the web, but repetition doesn't make it any more true.<br><br>By the way, have you abandoned the attempt to tell me I'm already living under martial law?  That seems to be a common conspiracy-nut feature: when confronted with contrary evidence, change the subject.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : <b>WHO Admits to Releasing Pandemic Virus into Population via 'Mock-Up' Vaccines</b><br><br>The document on the WHO website linked below states that it is common procedure to release pandemic viruses into the population in order to get a jump ahead of the real pandemic, so as to fast track the vaccine for when it is needed.<br><br>In Europe, some manufacturers have conducted advance studies using a so-called "mock-up" vaccine. Mock-up vaccines contain an active ingredient for an influenza virus that has not circulated recently in human populations and thus mimics the novelty of a pandemic virus.<br>According to the website, &#147;Such advance studies can greatly expedite regulatory approval.&#148;<br><br>Sources:<br><i><br><A HREF="http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/notes/h1n1_safety_vaccines_20090805/en/index.html"><u>World Health Organization</u></a></i><br><b><br>More on this..</b><br><br>On June 11 the World Health Organization (WHO) raised its swine flu pandemic alert from a 5 to a 6. Phase 6 is the highest level alert, and reflects the speed with which a virus is spreading -- not its severity.<br><br>This classification also allows for a vaccine to qualify for a &#147;fast-track&#148; procedure for licensing and approval, and this process is now ongoing for the swine flu vaccine.<br><br>What you may not know, however, is that WHO, together with health officials, regulatory authorities and vaccine manufacturers, have been working since 2007 &#150; long before this new &#147;threat&#148; of swine flu emerged &#150; to &#147;explore a broad range of issues surrounding the regulatory approval of pandemic vaccines.&#148;<br><br>According to the WHO website:<br><i><br>&#147;Ways were sought to shorten the time between the emergence of a pandemic virus and the availability of safe and effective vaccines.&#148;</i><br><br>One such method used in Europe is to conduct advance studies using a &#147;mock-up&#148; vaccine that contains an active ingredient for an influenza virus that has not circulated recently in human populations.<br><br>When testing these mock-up vaccines, it is very possible to release the novel influenza virus into the population, as its purpose is to &#147;mimic the novelty of a pandemic virus&#148; and &#147;greatly expedite regulatory approval.&#148;<br><br>Government officials have other tricks up their sleeves to ensure these new, barely tested vaccines easily make it to market as well, such as:<br><br>*<br><br>Labeling the vaccine a &#147;strain change&#148; rather than an entirely &#147;new&#148; vaccine. This method states the new vaccine has built on technology used to produce vaccines for seasonal influenza, and the change for the pandemic vaccine is similar to a strain change used to produce a new seasonal vaccine each flu season.<br><br>In the United States, vaccine manufacturers are required to submit fewer data if they already have a licensed flu vaccine and will use the same manufacturing process for the pandemic vaccine.<br><br>*<br><br>Using a &#147;rolling review procedure.&#148; This allows manufacturers to submit sets of data for regulatory review &#147;as they become available.&#148; In other words, they&#146;re free to distribute the vaccine and then submit the safety data later on.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : There's some fabulously original biology at the second link.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by some guy :</small><br><br>Education of the populace as to what a virus really is would settle much of the rhetoric bantered about today. Viruses are solvents manufactured by the body to cleanse it of toxins.</div><div class="bquote"><small>said by same guy :</small><br><br>Viruses are not transmitted by sneezing, coughing or shaking hands (unless you sneeze or cough directly in someone's mouth or they let you spit on their hand and then wipe their eyes or mouth with that same hand - I doubt anyone does these actions).</div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>     :</small><br><br>Massachusetts passes martial law after swine flu</div>Just because David Icke's web site says it's martial law doesn't make it true.  <br><br>And, like it actually says at the link you posted, it passed the Senate and had not (at that time) passed the House. Therefore it's not yet MA law.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>     :</small><br><br>$1000/Day Fine & 30 Days Jail For Refusing Vaccine</div>Just because David Icke's web site says something doesn't make it true.<br><br>I saw no such language in the text of the Senate bill. If you can point out that provision (rather than someone's opinion of what it said), please do so.<br><br>There is similar wording in 96(e), but that has to do with violation of a compulsory quarantine order.  But hey, if you want to let Icke fans tell you what it says, rather than reading what it says, go right ahead.<br><br>Oh lookie, it's our old friend Mr. Duffy who started that thread.   Still, I suppose it's fair enough. The right wing in the US lies about the UK health-care system to bolster their case; it must therefore be ok for Britons to lie about a US state government in support of their agenda.<br><br><i>EDITED</i>: I originally ascribed the comments on Icke's web forum to Icke personally. Fixed now.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : <A HREF="http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63458"><u><b>Massachusetts passes martial law after swine flu</u></b></a><br><br><A HREF="http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78884"><u>$1000/Day Fine & 30 Days Jail For Refusing Vaccine</u></a>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote">MARSHAL LAW WAS PASSED IN APRIL</div>Imagine that; I've been living under martial law for 4 months and didn't know it.  "Marital law" was not "passed". What was actually passed was some laws with respect to handling a pandemic in a declared state of emergency.<br><br>(Two specific quibbles: it's only "martial law" when the military is in charge, and even if this law did permit the military to be in charge during  a pandemic, that's not the same as saying that "martial law has been passed" now. You need to be careful how you use words. You get all over-excited when you use them incorrectly).<br><br>It's "martial law", by the way, not some sort of Wild West thing.  "Marshal Wyatt Earp". "Martial Law". Different concepts, different words.<br><br>And it's not yet law as far as I know. The Senate passed the bill, sending it to the House for approval.<br><br>Even rabid conspiracy nut Alex Jones does not seem to be reporting that "they can try and force you to take this crap", so you're right, it is total BS to claim that.<br><br>The only mention I can find of "forcing" anyone to do anything with respect to vaccines in S.18 is that the Commonwealth can compel licensed health-care providers to assist in vaccination and testing.  This does not equate to compelling the citizenry to be vaccinated.  In fact, there is language specifically saying that vaccination is not compulsory: it provides for quarantining instead.<br><br>  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction.<br><hr></blockquote><br><br>OK, technically I guess that they may "try and force you" but can not actually "force you".<br><br>On balance, I am in favour of required quarantine for those who may be infected if the alternative is to have them running around infecting the rest of us.  I don't see compulsory quarantine as a step to be taken lightly by any government, but I am willing to grant such power to be used <i>in extremis</i>. This is, after all, the <u>Commonwealth</u> of Massachusetts, not the To-Hell-With-Everyone-Else of Massachusetts.<br><br>You might do better to read the actual bill rather than to rely on what the nutcases are saying.  <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st00/st00018.htm" >www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/&middot;&middot;&middot;0018.htm</A><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st02/st02028.htm" >www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/&middot;&middot;&middot;2028.htm</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Thats what they are trying to do Dave YES..<br><br>In Massachusets here in the states,MARSHAL LAW WAS PASSED IN APRIL meaning they can try and force you to take this crap or face consequences!! (TOTAL BS)<br><br>This may spread to the whole USA which is sad....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : I see: it's genuinely regrettable that someone was the victim of a US government screw-up in 1976 w.r.t. voluntary vaccinations, and therefore you'll believe any nutbar that claims the UK government intends to make swine-flu vaccinations compulsory in 2009?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>said by jvmorris :</small><hr>After a long and winding journey, one of my stepsons dug out the following for me. I think this is likely the basis for much of what's being said here. <hr></blockquote>Yes my friend,that video is all over the net and makes me mad she went thru that!!<br><br>I hope she continues to try and fight this and gets her $$!!<br><br>Poor lady...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : OK, so there was a severe governmental cock-up, lousy QA, a health disaster, followed by a lot of institutional arse-covering.  That I find credible.<br><br>I didn't see anything about weaponised viruses or this being deliberate policy by the overlords to reduce the world population though.<br><br>Regrettably, our duff new member seems to have quit while he was behind.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : After a long and winding journey, one of my stepsons dug out the following for me.  I think this is likely the basis for much of what's being said here.  <p><div style='z-index:0; text-align:center;display:block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VxeKY-TLmFk"><param name=wmode value="transparent"><embed wmode="transparent" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VxeKY-TLmFk" type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='425' height='350' allowscriptaccess='samedomain'></embed></object></div></p><center> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxeKY-TLmFk&NR=1" >www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxeKY-TLmFk&NR=1</A></center> .<br><br>This is from a 60 Minutes episode aired at some time after the 1976 debacle.  The most interesting part of the Mike Wallace interview that I've heard to date is that the version of the vaccine that was used in the mass inoculation program is not the version that underwent significant testing!  (Interestingly, an observation that I believe the conspiracy theorists have failed to point out.)  When this segment finishes, follow the link to Part 2.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : She must be mentally ill to say such nasty things about lovely fluoride. The Nazis wanted the inmates to have nice and shiny teeth. What's wrong with that?<br><br>You correctly guessed what I would say so you must be right about everything else.<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>     :</small><br><br>The is also the case of Dr Phyllis Mullenix who was asked to do experiments to see what the effect of Fluoride was on rats. Her experiments showed that Fluoride caused Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder, memory problems and could lower IQ.</div>Wait a minute, there's an IQ test for rats?<br><br>(How do they make sure it's free of cultural bias?)<br><br>But I'm pleased to find we're now talking about fluoride. It exerts a strange attraction on conspiracy nuts everywhere.<br><br>(I'm not talking about the pros and cons of fluoridation, I'm talking about the notion that Fluoride Is An Evil Government Plot and the Nazi Germany linkage).<br><br>Perhaps you'd like to visit the USA this autumn? You can join in the merry shouting at politicians who are in favour of government-mediated healthcare system. All the cool nuts are doing it.<br><br><div class="bquote">None of you have provided any evidence to prove Dr Carley wrong.</div>'scuse us?  We're still waiting for you to come up with the evidence that proves that you were right.  You make some wild assertions about 'weaponized vaccines', and then wriggle your way through videos about speeding fines into the traditonal finale of Nazi Fluoride.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>That's all people on here can do, give stupid ignorant comments and AVOIDING the real issues and also offering no proof that I am wrong.</div>No, I'm commenting on you. The subject of this thread is 'vaccines'.  For reasons known only to yourself, you support your position on vaccines by posting a video of some guy (a) showing that various government offices have registered companies, and (b) that some laws are intended to make a profit (I summarize drastically, of course).<br><br>You offered no opinion on why this video had anything at all to do with the vaccine issue.  I think we're supposed to leap from "the man in the video showed some company details" to "pduffy is surely right about vaccines", but in order to pass this examination you need to show all working.<br><br>One might comment on the video, but I'm not inclined to follow you down every twisty little path you take. I want to discuss your opinions of vaccines in the thread that's about your position on vaccines. If you want to talk about UK Govt. (PLC) then by all means start another topic.<br><br><div class="bquote">For example where is the independent evidence that vaccines are safe?</div>What, some evidence that all vaccines are safe? I'm sure it doesn't exist.  The issue must be addressed on a vaccine-by-vaccine basis.<br><br><div class="bquote">There is no independent evidence or someone would have posted links. </div>Ahm because no-one posted it, it doesn't exist?  I for one didn't even go looking, because discussing it with you would be like debating a dining room table.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : And it follows from "the government is privately owned" that "vaccines don't work"?<br><br>It follows from "speeding tickets are a revenue-raising tool" (which, incidentally, seems likely true to me) that "the government wants to murder everyone"?<br><br>You have the magpie mind common to conspiracy buffs: everything is trotted out as proof of everything else.  Must be some sort of attention-deficit disorder. I'm not saying it's your fault though, the ADD was surely caused by the vaccines.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : The easiest thing for corrupt officials to do is to discredit the mental well being of someone that is telling the truth. It is the word of a shrink against the victim. The victim being Dr Carley and you are buying the lies hook line a sinker.<br><br>The is also the case of Dr Phyllis Mullenix who was asked to do experiments to see what the effect of Fluoride was on rats. Her experiments showed that Fluoride caused Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder, memory problems and could lower IQ. After her study was accepted for publication she was fired from hew job and never received any more grants to continue her work. That is what happens to honest people who tell the truth while cowards tell lies. Part of an interview with her is in this video <p><div style='z-index:0; text-align:center;display:block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5NFOnQQMnx4"><param name=wmode value="transparent"><embed wmode="transparent" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5NFOnQQMnx4" type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='425' height='350' allowscriptaccess='samedomain'></embed></object></div></p><center> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NFOnQQMnx4&mode=related&search=" >www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NFOnQQM&middot;&middot;&middot;&search=</A></center><br><br>I suppose you'll claim she must be mentally ill to say such nasty things about lovely Fluoride. I mean, how could Fluoride be so bad if the Nazis used it in the concentration camps for all the inmates they must have loved so much.<br><br>I have selected to no longer receive updates to this forum. None of you have provided any evidence to prove Dr Carley wrong.<br><br>Good bye fools.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/960046"><b>poacher 1rtd</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Why don't you give a opinion of the content of the video instead of commenting on his balaclava.<br><br>That's all people on here can do, give stupid ignorant comments and AVOIDING the real issues and also offering no proof that I am wrong.<br><br>For example where is the independent evidence that vaccines are safe? There is no independent evidence or someone would have posted links. By independent I mean someone who is not a shill of the vaccine companies or Governments.<br> </div> How can you trust someone is telling the truth if all they want to do is hide their face.<br><br>I dislike  politicians, they`re only interested in what they can make for them selves, I all so dislike scaremongers who are only  interested in forcing their views on everybody else, the problem most of us have is who do we trust, politicians or scaremongers, I personally don`t trust either, if I don`t have the flu vaccine it`s my choice and not because I believed a scaremonger, if I do have the flu vaccine again it`s my choice and not because I believed a politician. <br><small>--<br>If you resolve to give up smoking, drinking and loving, you don't actually live longer; it just seems longer&#148; Clement Freud<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : I assume that is Rebecca Lee Roczen AKA Rebecca Carley who was struck off when found to be<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley.html" >www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley.html</A> :</small><br><br>guilty of "practicing while impaired by a mental disability" and "having a psychiatric condition which impaired her ability to practice medicine."<br> </div>In fact:<br><div class="bquote"><small>said by &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley.html" >www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/carley.html</A> :</small><br><br> Her medical license was suspended for five years with a provision that her ability to practice could be restored after one year if she sought psychiatric treatment and the psychiatrist recommended that she be considered fit to practice again. In 2004, however, the state's Administrative Review Board for Professional Conduct (ARB) concluded that her thinking was so rigid that the only way to protect the public would be to revoke her license<br></div>I'm not surprised that no-one trusts her evidence especially when she <br><div class="bquote"><small>said by &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/carley/order_2004.shtml" >www.casewatch.org/board/med/carl&middot;&middot;&middot;04.shtml</A> :</small><br><br>- suffers from a delusional disorder with the presence of narcissistic and borderline personality traits; <br><br>- believes her husband sodomized her son as part of a satanic ritual because the Respondent does not vaccinate and because she cures children with autism; <br><br>- believes the government is pursuing all those who oppose vaccination, in collusion with the drug industry; <br><br>- suffers delusions of persecution and grandiosity; <br><br>- holds a rigid and restricted approach to her perception and interpretation of reality; <br><br>- has displayed belligerent and agitated conduct in dealing with the Nassau County Police Department and Department of Social Services concerning her son, who currently lives in foster care; <br><br>- exhibited erratic and emotionally unstable conduct during a rehabilitation residency at Nassau University Medical Center; and; <br><br>- exhibited inappropriate and bizarre behavior during the BPMC hearing.<br></div><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Well, I gave Dr Carley as an expert in vaccine damage and her being struck off, is cast up. When I say she was struck off because she was telling the truth about vaccines people choose not to believe it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:45:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote">As best as I can.<br></div>I'm not surprised  :uhh:]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:32:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : As best as I can. Considering I have been looking into the dangers of Vaccines for 2 years and have not yet seen any independent evidence they are safe I am not going to hold my breath.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> By independent I mean someone who is not a shill of the vaccine companies or Governments.<br> </div>I assume it will be you who decides who is and isn't a shill.<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : Pduffy, your posts show just how ignorant the British public are! How anybody can deny the facts is beyond me. Could you please provide some so that we can truly appreciate your greatness?<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Why don't you give a opinion of the content of the video instead of commenting on his balaclava.<br><br>That's all people on here can do, give stupid ignorant comments and AVOIDING the real issues and also offering no proof that I am wrong.<br><br>For example where is the independent evidence that vaccines are safe? There is no independent evidence or someone would have posted links. By independent I mean someone who is not a shill of the vaccine companies or Governments.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:04:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : The Governments are private companies, they have employers who are the owners of the Banks and Industry. They are the real Government.<br><br>I can't help if you are ignorant of who really runs things, your fault not mine.<br><br>The article says the population needs to be reduced. Just how are they going to do that considering the immigrants will not want to leave? Mass immigration is the cause of the population of Britain reaching at least 61 million, which is what the Government will admit to. The British Government is not lawful as it is a private company so all immigrants allowed in by the Government are, by default, illegal immigrants.<br><br>The timing of the article coinciding with Baxter contaminating 72 kg of human vaccine with Bird Flu which would have caused massive loss of life should be too much even for sceptics to think it was an accident.<br><br>The replacing of the white population with immigrants is ethnic cleansing, according the definition of ethnic cleansing. So the Government is already committing a crime against the people of Britain.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:57:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : I had my tonsils removed 'as a matter of course' in the late 60's That practice has since been stopped. Never felt the urge to go sue or demand public apologies though...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:05:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Frankly I do think the population in Britain is out of control but it can't be solved by committing mass murder.</div>  That's very nice of you. I guess you're not all bad.<br><br><div class="bquote">The whole point of which was to bring about the excuse that there are too many people, so lets kill millions.<br> </div>Oh, now I get it.<br><br>1)  The government deliberately increases immigration, so<br><br>2)  The population will complain, so<br><br>3)  The government can murder people.<br><br>Are you stark staring mad?  There was nothing in the article that even suggested murder. Not a hint. The remedies quoted include "stop or reduce immigration" and "have fewer children".]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:10:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> You post is total nonsense with no relevance whatsoever to the Swine Flu vaccine deaths! </div>And your video of some guy in a balaclava is relevant to that?   Yeah, I get the 'whole over-arching conspiracy' angle, but that's the usual conspiracy-buff approach.  Always skip to the next link, never get pinned down.<br><br>You sure have a great way at persuading people; I can understand how it is that your petition attracted so many signatures.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:02:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>On the other hand, I can attest to the fact that at that time (and to this day, I believe), the general medical opinion is that the appendix serves no discernable purpose in modern man and that the presumption is that it did earlier on.  But what that purpose was remained largely conjectural.  What ;purpose is it that you understand the appendix serves in modern man?  It is neither a ducted nor ductless gland, but rather a vestigial appendage to the digestive system. <br> </div>the purpose postulated in 2007 is this:<br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Drawing upon a series of observations and experiments, Duke University Medical Center investigators postulate that the beneficial bacteria in the appendix that aid digestion can ride out a bout of diarrhea that completely evacuates the intestines and emerge afterwards to repopulate the gut. Their theory appears online in the Journal of Theoretical Biology. "While there is no smoking gun, the abundance of circumstantial evidence makes a strong case for the role of the appendix as a place where the good bacteria can live safe and undisturbed until they are needed," said William Parker, Ph.D., assistant professor of experimental surgery, who conducted the analysis in collaboration with R. Randal Bollinger, M.D., Ph.D., Duke professor emeritus in general surgery.<br>.<br>.<br>"Diseases causing severe diarrhea are endemic in countries without modern health and sanitation practices, which often results in the entire contents of the bowels, including the biofilms, being flushed from the body," Parker said. He added that the appendix's location and position is such that it is expected to be relatively difficult for anything to enter it as the contents of the bowels are emptied. "Once the bowel contents have left the body, the good bacteria hidden away in the appendix can emerge and repopulate the lining of the intestine before more harmful bacteria can take up residence," Parker continued. "In industrialized societies with modern medical care and sanitation practices, the maintenance of a reserve of beneficial bacteria may not be necessary. This is consistent with the observation that removing the appendix in modern societies has no discernable negative effects."<br>.<br>.<br>Parker conducted a deductive study because direct examination the appendix's function would be difficult. Other than humans, the only mammals known to have appendices are rabbits, opossums and wombats, and their appendices are markedly different than the human appendix. Parker's overall research into the existence and function of biofilms is supported by the National Institutes of Health. Other Duke members of the team were Andrew Barbas, Errol Bush, and Shu Lin.<hr></blockquote><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.dukehealth.org/HealthLibrary/News/10151" >www.dukehealth.org/HealthLibrary/News/10151</A><br><br>it is always going to be guesswork, since one could hardly design a human experiment to test the theory  :huh:]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I did not have appendicitis so far as I am aware. They removed the appendix because they claimed in those days (early 70s) that the appendix could cause problems in later life. They also claimed that the appendix actually had not function, which was wrong. (I was born June 1970.)<br> </div>hmm - certainly in the early 70s it was standard practice here, if it was found to not be appendicitis once a suspected appendicitis patient had been opened up to remove the healty appendix anyway - principally because one is trading off the risk of appendicitis later on, and therefore another operation under general anaesthetic* (or in worst case death if not treated) against what was then thought an organ entirely without purpose.....  {about 8% or so of people will have (actual) acute appendicitis at some time in their lives...appendectomy is about half as common again...}<br><br>it's (possible) use was only discovered ("the jury is still out" afaik) in 2007 - and even then it's still considered by the discoverers to be useless in developed countries {where Cholera or Ameobic dysentery are not significant risks..}<br><br>*which was <i>far</i> riskier then than now - then up to 1 in 10k patients given a general would die from it  :huh: <br><br>a general anaesthetic still has a mortality rate of 5-6 per million (even after those most at risk have been identified and alternatives used...) {that is, of course, with a properly trained/qualified anaesthatist - which is why Dentists aren't alowed to do them any more]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:45:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: UK Government Petition: No Swine Vaccine</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Sorry; I'd lost track of time (over here) and never thought how late it was getting to be in the UK (but I'll know again soon enough!).<br><br>Still, you most recent remarks about the appendectomy are revealing.  If you were born in June 1970 and the appendectomy was performed in the early 70s, who told you about why it was removed?  Was it your parents or was it someone else?  I've never heard of any physician who maintained that 'the appendix could cause problems in later life' and should therefore be removed.  Were your parents hanging around with some rather weird community?  On the other hand, I can attest to the fact that at that time (and to this day, I believe), the general medical opinion is that the appendix serves no discernable purpose in modern man and that the presumption is that it did earlier on.  But what that purpose was remained largely conjectural.  What ;purpose is it that you understand the appendix serves in modern man?  It is neither a ducted nor ductless gland, but rather a vestigial appendage to the digestive system.<br><br>Quite likely not every American has been vaccinated, but the vast majority have -- and the vast majority suffer from neither short-sightedness nor asthma.  These days you can't attend public school without producing a certificate that you have had all requisite vaccinations.  <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:19:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Actually the article begins "A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter."<br>Do you notice it uses the word NEW ? I don't think the Mail would be warning us of the dangers of the 1976 swine flu vaccine 33 years AFTER the fact!</div>actually that's <b>exactly</b> the kind of thing that the Mail is prone to......  :huh: <br><br>what the article reads like to me {and i note that they have pointedly not actually given only selected details of the letters, which i suspect is because they don't match the sensationalist tone of the article} is that someone has passed them the standard-style letters which goes out about all flu jabs to ensure that Neurologists (who will be the consultants who any GBS cases will be seen by) are alert to the possibility of increased incidence of GBS if the 76 events were to repeat and ensure any cases are reported asap<br><br>it's actually a case of "nothing new here" ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : I did not have appendicitis so far as I am aware. They removed the appendix because they claimed in those days (early 70s) that the appendix could cause problems in later life. They also claimed that the appendix actually had not function, which was wrong. (I was born June 1970.)<br><br>I doubt every american has been vaccinated so your assertion that every american should have asthma and need specs would not happen.<br><br>Vaccines cause auto immune disease. You'll need to look at this web site &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.drcarley.com/" >www.drcarley.com/</A> for information about vaccines causing asthma and auto immune disease.<br><br>There is also independent research carried out proving that vaccine are the cause of cancer in pets. &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.drcarley.com/Science_of_vaccine_damage.pdf" >www.drcarley.com/Science_of_vacc&middot;&middot;&middot;mage.pdf</A><br><br>It is 2:56 am here and I am off to bed.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:56:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: UK Government Petition: No Swine Vaccine is from a loony</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>We are not told how many people were tested with the swine flu vaccine so it is not possible from the article to say what the mortality rate is in the case of the 25 deaths.</div>err - read the mail article again.....<br><br> <blockquote><small>said by Daily Mail :</small><hr>500 cases of GBS were detected.<br>The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.<br>.<br>.<br>25 people died from respiratory failure after severe paralysis. One in 80,000 people came down with the condition<hr></blockquote><br><br>that is a death rate of 25 in 500 or 1 in 20 of those detected with GBS {if you postulate that some cases of GBS were missed (a situation that is unlikely given it's symptoms) then that makes the true death rate even lower...}<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The 1918 Spanish Flu (as they chose to call it) was caused entirely by vaccinations.</div>nonsense <br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>So are you going to take the Swine Flu vaccine? </div>well since i am not amongst the groups who will get it in the first wave it is atm a somewhat academic question for me <br><br>but, in the spirit in which it is asked, i certainly expect that when offered it i will, just as i have had "regular flu jabs" in those past years when i was offered it<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The Daily Mail is not the only source telling of the dangers of vaccines. Don't bother asking for links.<br> </div>i am unaware of any source whose "dangers" are not wildly exagerated and/or display a singular lack of numeracy {a common fault in the UK media, sadly}]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Oh, gimme a friggin' break!  Your short-sightedness and asthma are hardly likely to have been caused by a vaccine and I challenge you to present any hard medical evidence to that effect.  Similarly, psoriasis is hardly a consequence of vaccination.  Can you provide any evidence that yours is?  Indeed, given the almost universal nature of vaccinations in the US for a multitude of diseases, the entire US population would suffer from asthma and short-sightedness if this were true!  (And that's <b>not</b> the case.)<br><br>Are you really seriously maintaining that your appendicitis was a consequence of vaccinations?  Just curious, I have twin sons -- one of whom had acute appendicitis (it ruptured before treatment) and the other did not, but both had precisely the same vaccinations.   (And that was over 20 years ago.)  On the other hand, I had a tonsillectomy at age 3 and that has a far more demonstrable effect on your immune system than your assertion that the appendix does!  Yet none of my children have had tonsillectomies, but they've had far more vaccinations that those which I had, certainly at that age.<br><br>I don't recognize the 'febrile convulsions' remark, will have to look that up.  Still, what I'm starting to see here is a person who blames all of their health problems on vaccinations when that is not necessarily the case.  I won't bother you with all the 'causes' of the problems that common folklore were used to explain my own problems to me, but vaccines were not among them.  <br><br>As for spectacles, I need to get my prescription renewed yearly now.  Luckily, my asthma has now long since passed off.<br><br>Well, at least now I know where you're coming from.<br><br>And I suffer from both conditions.  Well, that's not quite true, the asthma seems to have passed now.  At the moment, I'm working on getting emphysema.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Where did I say small pox was eradicated?<br><br>I'm simply saying that far fewer people died after the vaccines were introduced than would have otherwise died.<br><br>And I will tell my friends afflicted by it that polio was declining (in your opinion) before the introduction of the Salk and Sabine vaccines.  I'm sure they'll be incredibly satisfied by your assertion.  On this side of the pond, many of us are quite happy that these vaccines have worked as well as they have.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : I was vaccinated and had my appendix* removed as a child. I have Asthma and short sight which are caused by Vaccines. I also have some Psoriasis. I have chicken pox as a child also. SO has my older brother had same problems except for Asthma, though he has much worse Psoriasis.<br><br>I also had febrile convulsions as a result of being vaccinated so I was not allowed any more vaccines.<br><br>*The appendix helps support the immune system. So why remove it! To help make sure I was unhealthy 'cause big pharma can't make money from healthy people!<br><br>I have to pay out money for new spectacles every few years and I need to pay for inhalers or I could die from vaccine induced asthma like one of my brothers friends who died in 1981 from asthma attack, he found by his mother dead in his bed!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Oh, I will agree (based on my own experience as a fairly frequent visitor) that the UK (more specifically England) is getting badly overpopulated, but that's a consequence of the policies of the current Government with which I do not agree.  But, hey, I'm just the Occasional Tourist.  <br><br>Now, that being said, please explain why the self-same Government would then launch a non-discriminating vaccine to kill off millions of people (some of whom may well be the newly arrived immigrants, indeed possibly a great proportion of them or maybe you're not familiar with what happened in the US when the Europeans began spreading across the American Continents).  <br><br>And I must have missed the announcement by the Labour Government that there are too many people in the UK!  Indeed, last time I checked, they were maintaining there was room for millions more!<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Correct. I hope you are not going to start claiming small pox was eradicated by vaccines! <br><br>Smallpox was eradicated by better hygiene standards. Smallpox was in steady decline before vaccination, same for polio.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/a/coleman.html" >www.whale.to/a/coleman.html</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/v/creighton.html" >www.whale.to/v/creighton.html</A><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/v/hadwen.html" >www.whale.to/v/hadwen.html</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:16:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : I found it quite ironic that at about the same time as the deaths occurred in Poland from bird flu vaccines, there was a story, also in the Mail, about the Optimum Population Trust (read Eugenics society) claimed &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199311/Cut-population-say-crowded-Britons.html" >www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article&middot;&middot;&middot;ons.html</A><br><br>So there is propaganda that we are over crowded.<br><br>Frankly I do think the population in Britain is out of control but it can't be solved by committing mass murder. After all, it is the corrupt British Government (private company) which has allowed 10's of millions of immigrants to enter Britain over the last 40 years. Which has resulted in many millions of Brits leaving. Now the Government start bitching that there are too many people! What do they expect when there is an open door immigration policy; The whole point of which was to bring about the excuse that there are too many people, so lets kill millions.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>You typed "Vaccines work only against a particular strain of a virus"<br><br>No vaccines do NOT work.<br> </div>Hokayyyy. . . . Glad you got that off your chest.  So, ... <b>none</b> of the vaccines I've ever had work?  Is that correct?  Just wanted to make sure I got that right.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Sure.  That's exactly what they do in situations like this.  Once there's a suspicion of adverse (and especially deadly or disabling consequences) from a vaccine, the authorities put out warnings to epidemiologists and others to have any such cases investigated (including post mortems, of course) to establish whether or not the vaccine was instrumental and exactly what other factors may have contributed.  Isn't this exactly what you'd want them to do?<br><br>Again, how does this establish a massive international Government conspiracy to kill off as much of the British population as possible?  If anything, it suggests precisely the opposite to me.<br><br>And the Mail will warn you of the consequences of spitting on the sidewalk in August.  <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:52:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : You typed "Vaccines work only against a particular strain of a virus"<br><br>No vaccines do NOT work.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Yes but its the same VACCINE (Even worse now) so 25 all were fatally affected by this while who knows how many more were SEVERLY INJURED!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Actually the article begins "A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter."<br>Do you notice it uses the word NEW ? I don't think the Mail would be warning us of the dangers of the 1976 swine flu vaccine 33 years AFTER the fact!<br><br>Here is an online book about the 1976 swine outbreak &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean2.html" >www.whale.to/a/mcbean2.html</A><br><br>The same author wrote this book in 1957:<br>THE POISONED NEEDLE by Eleanor McBean<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html" >www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : How clever of you not to point out that those 25 people who died in the US were not victims of the vaccine for the current swine flu virus, but rather of one feared in 1976!<br><br><div class="bquote">There are concerns that there could be a repeat of what became known as the &#145;1976 debacle&#146; in the US, where a swine flu vaccine killed 25 people &#150; more than the virus itself.<br>A mass vaccination was given the go-ahead by President Gerald Ford because scientists believed that the swine flu strain was similar to the one responsible for the 1918-19 pandemic, which killed half a million Americans and 20million people worldwide.<br> <br>Within days, symptoms of GBS were reported among those who had been immunised and 25 people died from respiratory failure after severe paralysis. One in 80,000 people came down with the condition. In contrast, just one person died of swine flu.</div>Of the 1976 situation, correct?  And the program was then cancelled, was it not?  Again, how does this establish a massive international Government program to decimate the population of the UK, never mind the world <b>today</b>?<br><br>Actually, all this does is establish that the vaccination program used at <b>that</b> time was cancelled because it had an unacceptable risk rate, hardly what you are trying to turn it into.<br><br><div class="bquote">More than 40million Americans had received the vaccine by the time the programme was stopped after ten weeks. The US Government paid out millions of dollars in compensation to those affected.</div>Errmmm, and how many <b>more</b> had died by then?<br><br><div class="bquote">The swine flu virus in the new vaccine is a slightly different strain from the 1976 virus, but the possibility of an increased incidence of GBS remains a concern.</div>Vaccines work only against a particular strain of a virus; this is true even in the case of normal flu viruses, which is why there's typically a new vaccine every year since viruses constantly mutate.  Saying it's only <i>slightly</i> different is a bit of journalistic freedom of expression -- it's either the same or it's different from an epidemiologists' viewpoint.<br><br><div class="bquote">Read more: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html#ixzz0OaC63wdE" >www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article&middot;&middot;&middot;OaC63wdE</A><br> </div><br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : The Sheffield Forum was even worse than here! I couldn't believe the nonsense coming from them!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Indeed........ (Like on that other site i showed you)<br><br>Im glad to see your finally ashore :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : They really are thick as shit aren't they Dude1111 ! Total fruit loops!<br><br>And jvmorris keeps talking about "over-the-counter medications" ! As I said, vaccines are not over-the-counter medications!!!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:01:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : We are not told how many people were tested with the swine flu vaccine so it is not possible from the article to say what the mortality rate is in the case of the 25 deaths.<br><br>However we know that 21 out of 350 people tested with a Bird Flu vaccine died earlier this year. That is 1 in 16.667 people. But there could have been 50% that were given a placebo, it that is the case then the death rate is about 1 in 8. If 60,000,000 UK people were  vaccinated with that Bird Flu vaccine it would mean 7.5 million deaths entirely due to the vaccine.<br><br>The 1918 Spanish Flu (as they chose to call it) was caused entirely by vaccinations.<br><br>So are you going to take the Swine Flu vaccine? <br><br>The Daily Mail is not the only source telling of the dangers of vaccines. Don't bother asking for links.<br><br>You are living in denial, which is just tough luck for you.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> :   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Originally Posted by <b>pduffy4</b> <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22758553~start=20#22887974"> <IMG SRC="http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8494/viewpostng2.gif"></a><br><br>Perhaps now that 25 people have been killed by Swine Flu vaccines in the USA people will see sense.<hr></blockquote><br>Somehow i dont think this will even help them realize it!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Paul's already dealt with this, I see.<br><br>But you probably don't understand that either.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : THEY DIED FORM SWINE FLU VACCINE! Not an over-the-counter medication! When have you ever bought a vaccine over-the-counter from the Chemist? Idiot!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : You really do have a problem, don't you?<br><br>I tell you that it's not uncommon for 25 people <b>in the US</b> to die from a mass appeal over-the-counter medication to die shortly after it's been introduced because the particular issue that makes them vulnerable has not yet been identified from clinical tests conducted before its certification, and you tell me that this has no relevance?<br><br>Let me try again:  <i>It's not <b>unusual</b> for 25 people to die in the US from an over-the-counter medication in the first few years after its introduction; how then can a similar number of people dying from a Swine Flue vaccine be evidence of a massive Government conspiracy?</i><br><br>My comment (or rather observation) about the Daily Mail has absolutely nothing to do with whether I like or dislike their report.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>So pauldenton still think I am loony? <br></div>yes,  since you ask.....<br> <br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  pduffy4 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>Only 2 days after my petition expired it is reported in the papers that 25 people have already died form the Swine Flu vaccine. Do you still think it is SAFE!?<br> </div>yes*<br><br>and the Daily Wail is not "the papers" - a headline appearing there {especially in the "silly season" when even proper newspapers print any old crap because the real journos are on holiday......} makes it less credible not more..... doubly so for vaccination related stuff which the Mail has a long history of scaremongering about {and they've predictably got quotes from "jabs" in their article}<br><br>and posting the same link twice in the same thread barely 10 minutes apart doesn't make it any more useful, or authoritive.....<br><br>*if one analyses the Wail's story, <b>suspends all disbelief for a moment and assumes all it's claims are true and not exaggerated etc</b> and we have:<br>a) a claimed GBS rate for the 1976 vaccine they refer of of <b>1 in 80k</b> {since they only claim an 8 fold increase in the risk of GBS - so 1 in 8 of those would have got GBS anyway, with similar fatality rates, and the increased risk of GBS is in fact <b>1 in 91428</b>...}<br>b) a claimed fatality rate of <b>1 in 1.6 million</b> {i.e. 1 in 20 of those with GBS... <i>increased</i> fatality rate therefore just under <b>1 in 1.8 million</b>....}<br><br>which would be, whilst not desireable, still perfectly acceptable odds in a vaccination against a disease with an expected fatality rate of, even if one takes the <b>lowest</b> fatility rates for pandemic Flu waves (Hong Kong Flu in '68/70) 0.1% i.e. one in a thousand {Spanish flu ran at 2.5% - Swine Flu is currently running at about 0.25%....} with likely infection rates of (again based on the 58 and 68 pandemics) 25-30% of the popuilation......  :huh:<br><br>that equates to a death rate unvaccinated against Swine Flu of about 25%x0.1% = 1 in 4000 - a somewhat more appreciable risk than 1 in 1.6/1.8 million, or even 1 in 80000/91000<br><br>the article certainly doesn't come anywhere close to the hyperbolic claims of weaponised viruses and "massive loss of life" you made in your petition......  :uhh:]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : What the hell are babbling on about? !!! You post is total nonsense with no relevance whatsoever to the Swine Flu vaccine deaths!<br><br>A vaccine is NOT an over-the-counter medication!<br><br>So because the Daily Mail have a report you don't like you are claiming they are not reliable?<br><br>Go back to sleep.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Just out of curiosity, can you find any source a bit more credible than the Daily Mail?  (I know you can find some that are less credible.)<br><br>In the US (with over 300 million residents), it's not at all unusual to hear of a popular over-the-counter medication that causes 25 deaths after it's first introduced.  (That's less than 1 in 10 million and no pre-release clinical trials are going to detect the vulnerability.)  What happens, once the possibility is raised is that Warning Labels are added indicating who should <b>not</b> use the medication -- but it takes some time to figure out what the problem is.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Hi Dude<br><br>Perhaps now that 25 people have been killed by Swine Flu vaccines in the USA people will see sense.<br><br>Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America<br>Read more: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html#ixzz0OZs0xtSH" >www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article&middot;&middot;&middot;OZs0xtSH</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Sorry you have me mistaken with someone else. I have never been on controversial tv with Theo.<br><br>Politicians don't have any goodness except from themselves. The Government and ALL supposed public authorities are all private companies. Watch this video for a clear explanation. <p><div style='z-index:0; text-align:center;display:block;'><object width='425' height='350'><param name='movie' value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JVg4vA8mraA"><param name=wmode value="transparent"><embed wmode="transparent" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JVg4vA8mraA" type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='425' height='350' allowscriptaccess='samedomain'></embed></object></div></p><center> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVg4vA8mraA" >www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVg4vA8mraA</A></center><br><br>I have been to two different Police Stations in Glasgow, Police HQ in Pitt Street and Helen Street Police Station which is supposed to be the main station dealing with terrorism. Neither took any action.<br><br>Now that 25 people have died in the USA from the Swine Flu vaccines I may try again.<br><br>Are you from the UK?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America<br>Read more: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html#ixzz0OZpBLESH" >www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article&middot;&middot;&middot;OZpBLESH</A><br><br>So pauldenton still think I am loony? Only 2 days after my petition expired it is reported in the papers that 25 people have already died form the Swine Flu vaccine. Do you still think it is SAFE!?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1667671"><b>elliemac1st</b></A> : Hi Peter, I have only just joined this site and I got interested after watching the programme with you and Amanda on controversial tv with Theo last week. I tried on Monday to get the letter that was going to be put on the website for people to download and take to eg police stations, but I ahve not managed to get it. Either I am a bit dim and am missing something or it is maybe not on the site.<br>Can you spare a couple of minutes to sort my query out.<br>I am totally behind everything that has been detailed, all the way and I am trying to do what I can from my side, to let as amny people know what is being done to us and for them to open their eyes and see beyond the goodness of these politicians etc!!! yeah that is a tongue in cheek description.<br>Thanks Elliemac1st]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : That's only because you haven't been reading the findings of Jeff Sharlet regarding "C Street" and "The Family".  :D<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : I deny I ever made that statement. My account was hacked by David Icke's long lost evil twin.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Pjr <A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Conspiracy theorists are planted by the government to hide the truth.<br> </div>I just realized that if you invert that statement -- Government is planted by conspiracy theorists to hide the truth -- it actually has a certain credibility.   ;)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : Conspiracy theorists are planted by the government to hide the truth.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : I just read Stirling Evansville's web site, which you linked to.<br><br>  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>This will result in martial law lock downs and the use of RFID chips <br>(Mark of the Beast) being required to purchase food and other items.<hr></blockquote><br><br>This is the indelible mark of the nutcase: he veers from his subject (to whit, weaponized virii) into other obsessions such as RFID. And the reference to Revelations doesn't mark him as particularly interested in reality, either.<br><br>But if that's not enough for you, you can also enjoy Stirling's blog discussions of whether Barack Obama is the Antichrist, that the bible prophesied the Chernobyl nuclear accident, etc.<br><br>All in all, Stirling's not a guy I'd choose to add intellectual weight to my position on anything.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> Makes me wonder if ppl are just scared so they deny it.....</div>Makes me wonder why people are prone to deny the obvious conclusion ("we think it's false") and propose hidden reasons and secret agendas ("they're just scared").]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> :  <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Thanks for posting this here. There are clearly a lot of ignorant people on this forum!<hr></blockquote>Its good to see you my friend!!<br><br>I posted this on several sites all with the same ignorance being shown.....<br><br>Makes me wonder if ppl are just scared so they deny it.....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : As far as I can tell, in [0032] the phrase "the influenza virus" refers to the virus that is used in the lab to prepare the antigen, which is not necessarily one of the actual strains which this vaccine can be used against.<br><br>It doesn't seem surprising to me that the source of the antigen may be subject to genetic engineering. It says nothing about what's out in the world.<br><br>Also, patent terminology tends to be as broad as possible. If I've actually tested it as a dessert topping, it doesn't stop me trying to claim ownership of any use as a floor wax.<br><br>From what I see, the "weaponized virus" believers tend to be one and the same as the "worldwide UN/WHO eugenics program conspiracy theorists".  You'll have to forgive me if I incorrectly assumed you're one of the same.  Do you have evidence that we might look at?  I don't know enough about a random Thai web site to assess its credibility.<br><br>Personally, I am thankful we have vaccines. A number of crippling diseases that were around in the 1950s are no longer found today with any significant incidence, and vaccination is the reason why (yes, I'm aware of the nay-sayers). Vaccination is not risk-free, of course -- introducing anything foreign into your metabolism is clearly not always harmless.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : The following are online books to enlighten about the dangers of ALL vaccines.<br><br>THE POISONED NEEDLE by Eleanor McBean<br>-&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html" >www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html</A><br><br>Swine Flu Expose by Eleanora I. McBean, Ph.D., N.D.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean2.html" >www.whale.to/a/mcbean2.html</A><br><br>HORRORS OF VACCINATION EXPOSED<br>AND ILLUSTRATED: PETITION TO THE PRESIDENT<br>TO ABOLISH COMPULSORY VACCINATION (pdf)<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.drcarley.com/Horrors_of_Vaccination_Exposed.pdf" >www.drcarley.com/Horrors_of_Vacc&middot;&middot;&middot;osed.pdf</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : You say "THERE WAS NO WIDELY AVAILABLE INACTIVATED FLU VACCINE UNTIL THE 1940s!"<br><br>Did I say there was in my petition? NO. Viruses were also unknown in 1918.<br><br>Here is a small section from a book called Vaccination The Silent Killer by E. McBean<br><br>QUOTE: THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE<br>E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)<br><br>Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign. The doctors told the people that the disease was caused by germs. Viruses were not known at that time or they would have been blamed. Germs. bacteria and viruses, along with bacilli and a few other invisible organisms are the scapegoats which the doctors like to blame for the things they do not understand. If the doctor makes a wrong diagnosis and treatment, and kills the patient, he can always blame it on the germs, and say the patient didnt get an early diagnosis and come to him in time.<br><br>If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it<br>suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued<br>doggedly. END QUOTE<br><br>Ypu can find more of the above extract near the foot of this very informative web site &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.drcarley.com/" >www.drcarley.com/</A><br><br>You went on to claim "Plus, the new H1N1 vaccine does NOT contain the same genes that caused the virulency of 1918 pandemic flu." Nonsense!<br><br>It does contain the same genes because the AH1N1 Swine flu is genetically engineered from the 1918 flu. Tissue form a dead Inuit woman was used to reconstitute the virus, work stated in 1997.<br><br>This page gives good information &raquo;<A HREF="http://rense.com/general86/manmd.htm" >rense.com/general86/manmd.htm</A><br><br>Also this is a Patent, &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/lrvvpe" >tinyurl.com/lrvvpe</A>, by Novartis was applied for in 2006, is for a vaccine for AH1N1. How can this be if the Swine Flu outbreak was a natural occurrence in 2009?<br>From the above Patent is this section ""[0032]The influenza virus may be a reassortant strain, and may have been obtained by reverse genetics techniques. Reverse genetics techniques [e.g. 16-20] allow influenza viruses with desired genome segments to be prepared in vitro using plasmids."" Yeh, reversed form the 1918 Spanish Flu. <br><br>Your last comment "Personally, I wouldn't be concerned about any pandemic unless it's from these guys (CDC)." was actually highly intuitive because they are involved in experimenting with viruses and making vaccines also. Read about the CDC here &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/klfjxa" >tinyurl.com/klfjxa</A> <br><br>Also &raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2009/07/17/Squalene-The-Swine-Flu-Vaccines-Dirty-Little-Secret-Exposed.aspx" >blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvot&middot;&middot;&middot;sed.aspx</A><br><br>I also posted several other links in other posts on this thread.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : Thanks for posting this here. There are clearly a lot of ignorant people on this forum!<br><br>pduffy4]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1663097"><b>pduffy4</b></A> : It was me who posted the petition, Peter Duffy.<br><br>Hi  PC Doc 54, <br><br>You think I am a nutter? Perhaps you could have a read at the small number of links I have posted for your convenience below. Saves you having to actually do your own research, which you should do before calling someone a nutter.<br><br>Also we are not allowed to post links in the petition so there is no way to provide any evidence.<br><br>Perhaps you could read this article &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000009894" >www.pattayadailynews.com/shownew&middot;&middot;&middot;00009894</A><br><br>Also this is a Patent, &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/lrvvpe" >tinyurl.com/lrvvpe</A>, by Novartis was applied for in 2006, is for a vaccine for AH1N1. How can this be if the Swine Flu outbreak was a natural occurrence?<br>From the above Patent is this section ""[0032]The influenza virus may be a reassortant strain, and may have been obtained by reverse genetics techniques. Reverse genetics techniques [e.g. 16-20] allow influenza viruses with desired genome segments to be prepared in vitro using plasmids."" Yeh, reversed form the 1918 Spanish Flu.<br><br>Oh, did you not realise that the outbreak in Mexico happened near to a Baxter Lab! Bit like the last foot and mouth out break in England that was traced to Portandown lab!<br><br>Here is Baxters patent for a AH1N1 vaccine in 2008 &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/lmctmf" >tinyurl.com/lmctmf</A><br><br>Mexican Swine Flu - A binary biowar weapon &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ccaoqj" >tinyurl.com/ccaoqj</A><br><br>Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6r7amq" >tinyurl.com/6r7amq</A><br>Yeh, vaccines must be really safe if they only kill 21 young people out of 350. I should go and get one right away! NOT.<br><br>I hope I have given you enough to think about same as pauldenton!<br><br>Must be nice to live in a dream world where the Government loves you and vaccines protect instead of cause disease and death! Dream on dude :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : It was me who posted the petition, Peter Duffy.<br><br>So pauldenton, you think I am an idiot because I said that the Swine Flu was "a man made weaponized swine flu virus which will cause death or serious injury to members of the public"  ?? On what research do you base your comment about my competency?<br><br>Clearly you have made this stupid comment before doing some research. <br><br>Perhaps you could read this article &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000009894" >www.pattayadailynews.com/shownew&middot;&middot;&middot;00009894</A><br><br>Also this is a Patent, &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/lrvvpe" >tinyurl.com/lrvvpe</A>, by Novartis was applied for in 2006, is for a vaccine for AH1N1. How can this be if the Swine Flu outbreak was a natural occurrence?<br>From the above Patent is this section ""[0032]The influenza virus may be a reassortant strain, and may have been obtained by reverse genetics techniques. Reverse genetics techniques [e.g. 16-20] allow influenza viruses with desired genome segments to be prepared in vitro using plasmids."" Yeh, reversed form the 1918 Spanish Flu.<br><br>Oh, did you not realise that the outbreak in Mexico happened near to a Baxter Lab! Bit like the last foot and mouth out break in England that was traced to Portandown lab!<br><br>Here is Baxters patent for a AH1N1 vaccine in 2008 &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/lmctmf" >tinyurl.com/lmctmf</A><br><br>Mexican Swine Flu - A binary biowar weapon &raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ccaoqj" >tinyurl.com/ccaoqj</A><br><br>Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/6r7amq" >tinyurl.com/6r7amq</A><br>Yeh, vaccines must be really safe if they only kill 21 young people out of 350. I should go and get one right away! NOT.<br><br>I hope I have given you enough to think about pauldenton! Must be nice to live in a dream world where the Government loves you and vaccines protect instead of cause disease and death! Dream on pauldenton :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : You said it doesn't infect chavs and that we ought to be given the chav gene to protect us :p]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><b>nemo1966</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Pjr <A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>Pity it just doesn't attack "chavs" ...<br> </div>I didn't realise chavs are immune to it.<br> </div>I didn't say they were, I just wished it would attack ONLY them.<br><small>--<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : My, you're old.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : And it is my recollection that the same was true of the Great Flu after WW I.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:52:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>it'll weed out the weak  </div>Apparently not.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090629/wl_canada_afp/healthflucanada_20090629231421" >news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090629/wl&middot;&middot;&middot;29231421</A><br><br>(I think the explanation is that the particular strain kicks a healthy immune system into overdrive....)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:32:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Pity it just doesn't attack "chavs" ...<br> </div>I didn't realise chavs are immune to it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:26:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><b>nemo1966</b></A> : I think the flu is a good thing - it'll weed out the weak ;)<br><br>Pity it just doesn't attack "chavs" ...<br><small>--<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:38:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Fuck, that means mrs. (acting) dave must be an agent for the New World Order; she was working in a flu-shot clinic last winter...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:44:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : Never mind.<br><br>David Icke also claimed to be the Son of God and a professional footballer for Coventry City and Hereford United. He later denied he played for Hereford.<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:44:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1648984"><b>Corei7Maniac</b></A> : I guess I need to work on my search-fu then. Apparently those conspiracy theorists still get through my gullibility filter...<br><br>Although in the US, <A HREF="http://coasttocoastam.com/">Coast to Coast AM</a> is a pretty good place for stuff like this.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:03:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : You should have said this topic was meant to be humorous.<br><br>David Icke is a conspiracy theorist who believes that the <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkiclMWy3Ns">pig plague vaccine has been developed to thin out the population</a>. He also believes the world is run by <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke#Reptilian_humanoids">alien reptilian humanoids</a>.<br><br>The one thing I like about him is that he says we have to think for ourselves and not believe everything we are told. Unfortunately he usually means "don't believe what they* tell you but believe what I tell you".<br><br>* Whoever "they" are. Perhaps he means the reptilian humanoids.<br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:17:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1648984"><b>Corei7Maniac</b></A> : In the petition, it states that the 1918 flu was caused by a vaccine. THERE WAS NO WIDELY AVAILABLE INACTIVATED FLU VACCINE UNTIL THE 1940s! (They were only developed in the 1930s, actually.) Obviously this well intentioned petitioner has suffered from an acute case of misinformation. Plus, the new H1N1 vaccine does NOT contain the same genes that caused the virulency of 1918 pandemic flu. This is because 2009 H1N1 flu doesn't contain those genes either (yet). However, the current H1N1 flu does spread in different ways than normal seasonal flu.<br><br>Personally, I wouldn't be concerned about any pandemic unless it's from <A HREF="http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/Spb/mnpages/dispages/filoviruses.htm">these guys.</a>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:40:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : Yes because my eyes are not closed..... (I hope yours arent either)<br><br>If anyone is interested here is where i found it :)<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73959" >davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73959</A><br><br>Im just trying to help everyone,however I CAN ONLY SHOW YOU THE DOOR........]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:36:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : Did you actually read that drivel before you decided you were in favour of it?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:05:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><b>PC Doc 54</b></A> : Good grief is that really a legitimate government website?<br><br>And they allow all these nutters to create petitions?<br><br>Mind you ... it does make for some entertaining reading :)<br><small>--<br>I have never been out on my bike and thought, "Man I wish I was in a car."</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:41:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: UK Government Petition: No Swine Vaccine is from a loony</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : Sign.<br><br>(To Paul's comment.)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:25:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: UK Government Petition: No Swine Vaccine is from a loony</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Sign<br><br>Errr -- to paul's comment that is.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:14:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dude111 <A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine" >petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine</A><br><br>This is only open to UK residents otherwise i would help you guys and sign it also!!<br><br>Nothing should be forced upon anyone!!<br><br>Please sign as soon as you can and ask as many people as possible to sign it thanks. (Open until 15 August (The guy who made it didnt do it right))<br> </div>err - <br>a) nothing is being forced on anyone - the vaccine is entirely voluntary<br>b) this petition is from a complete idiot who thinks <br> <blockquote><small>said by petition author :</small><hr>the vaccinations contain a man made weaponized swine flu virus which will cause death or serious injury to members of the public<br><hr></blockquote><br><br>ergo i would urge non-one to either sign it or to suggest anyone else signs it {and anyone who does so, which you will note involves giving both an email adress and a snail mail address, can expect to be marked down as being distinctly "tin foil hat" to say the least....}]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:43:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/853361"><b>Dude111</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine" >petitions.number10.gov.uk/noswinevaccine</A><br><br>This is only open to UK residents otherwise i would help you guys and sign it also!!<br><br>Nothing should be forced upon anyone!!<br><br>Please sign as soon as you can and ask as many people as possible to sign it thanks. (Open until 15 August (The guy who made it didnt do it right))]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:51:42 EDT</pubDate>
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