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macman4hire

join:2009-03-30
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reply to macman4hire

Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.

Hi PX,

How did you set up configuration? I am using the softphone and can not get it to work.

1. Are you using a different Gizmo5 than the one used for forwarding inbound calls?
2. Do you this outbound Gizmo5 account registered directly to your ATA?
3. What number are dialing(Gizmo5 or GV)?

mazilo
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reply to PX Eliezer
AFAIK, GV forwarding calls to G5 uses G729 CoDec. So, G5 should also support for a G729 CoDec to forward to GV.

UPDATE #1: My asterisk PBX system and the ATA devices registered to my asterisk PBX system are all configured with a default G729 CoDec. Up until yesterday, they used to work fine and I was able to perform echo test calls by dialing 1-747-474-ECHO (3246) test line. I believe G5 has completely screwed up its configurations due to the recently addition on outbound GV calls.

UPDATE #2: After the above update got posted for about four hours, my ATA configured and/or registered to my asterisk PBX system seems to sparringly work with a G729 CoDec now, except it takes G5 additional 5 seconds to answer the ECHO test line.


PX Eliezer
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reply to macman4hire

said by macman4hire:

Hi PX,

How did you set up configuration? I am using the softphone and can not get it to work.

1. Are you using a different Gizmo5 than the one used for forwarding inbound calls?
2. Do you this outbound Gizmo5 account registered directly to your ATA?
3. What number are dialing(Gizmo5 or GV)?
As you know, you have to go to the GoogleVoice website and list your Gizmo5 phone, and it must be in the format of 747xxxxxxx (That is, do not put "1" in front). And be sure to select "Gizmo" as the type of phone.

AND you ALSO have to go to the Gizmo5 website and sign up for Google Voice Calling. It looks when you started this thread, the Google Voice Calling was not turned on yet. Go back to the Gizmo5 website and make sure it says Google Voice Calling ON and of course check that the e-mail that is linked to your GV account is correct, and that the password is also correct. Note that the Gizmo5 website does NOT want your GoogleVoice number, but rather the e-mail.

Regarding your other questions---

1) Same Gizmo5 account and same GV account. I only have one of each.

2) Yes, registered directly to my PAP2T. BTW, I do not use any stun server.

3) You asked, "What number are dialing(Gizmo5 or GV)?" Well, for outbound calls, I call the number I want to call. For inbound calls, I dial the GoogleVoice number. But again, you have to see that the GoogleVoice forwarding settings are correct on the GoogleVoice website.

Hope this helps. Sorry if I made any typos, I'm falling asleep here. Good luck everyone and goodnight for now.


sream
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join:2002-08-17
Portage, MI

reply to macman4hire
For what ever reason the geniuses at sipphone decided long ago to block access from 3cx pbx and softphone. If you use the 3cx pbx changing the user agent string works just fine.

»www.3cx.com/forums/help-with-sip···l#p55115


PX Eliezer
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reply to mazilo

said by mazilo:

AFAIK, GV forwarding calls to G5 uses G729 CoDec. So, G5 should also support for a G729 CoDec to forward to GV.
I guess life isn't perfect.

Mazilo, a question---

If you say CoDec do you also say MoDem? Think about it.

'Night.


sipperripper

@charter.com

reply to mazilo
I can't make it work with Asterisk as a trunk any ideas? I tells me I need call out credit. If I use the G5 client it works.


neftv

join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA
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reply to macman4hire
I just tried to call out via the G5's web dialer and I have my Google voice set up in account. I get message unable to complete call I need call out credit.

I just tested from my WIFI phone set up with G5 and it works perfect calling out can be accomplished VIA GV. THis is so cool. Whoever is responsible great job.
Caller ID shows up as my GV number.


OmagicQ
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reply to mazilo

said by mazilo:

AFAIK, GV forwarding calls to G5 uses G729 CoDec. So, G5 should also support for a G729 CoDec to forward to GV.
Glad to see its working now... was my support ticket just a lucky coincidence or did they actually fix it cause of the ticket. anyway doesn't matter if its working.

In my testing, GV to G5 has used iLBC when using the G5 client. It took me a while to figure out the logs from their client but it showed iLBC and the bitrate indicated on my bandwidth meter matched.

DaveSin

join:2009-07-17

reply to sream
Can someone comment on the possible ramifications this move will have on other VOIP providers, especially when Google Voice start their porting process?

I currently have a VOIP provider on Line 1 and Gizmo5 and Line 2 of my D-Link VTA-VR ATA and will be using the Gizmo5 for ALL my outgoing calls.

I also have T-Mobile Cell phone set up with Google Voice as one of my myFaves and make ALL my outgoing calls via Google Voice, resulting in the use of zero minutes of my 300-minutes myFaves plan! I have encouraged all the people that have my cell number to call me via my Google Voice number, that rings to my cell.



CajunWon

join:2005-12-30
Cary, NC
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Implications are obvious, how can a provider make money when the Big Gorilla in the room is giving it away for free.

However the GV community is currently relatively small so there will be little near-term impact.

There is a bit of added latency going the G5/GV route; support, though sufficient for many of us, is not on par with most providers;
G5 support reputation is not great;
GV may not be recording your conversations, but likely capturing key words for testing targeted advertising. I'm fine with that but many will consider negatively -consider though that DHS already screens voice conversations.

imo, this is exciting in that it has potential to change the VoIP landscape. But thinking about NetZero as a free ISP, many downloaded their UI but most did not stay.


digtiger

join:2009-07-25
Austin, TX

reply to macman4hire
Has anybody set up inbound on ATA using GZ5's server and succeeded?


PX Eliezer
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reply to DaveSin

said by DaveSin:

Can someone comment on the possible ramifications this move will have on other VOIP providers, especially when Google Voice start their porting process?
My wife never used to be interested in Voip but even she was intrigued when I said to her "We have a free phone line now!".

BUT---

When she asked me if we should now use this as our primary line, I said no, because:

a) Call quality not as good as my current main Voip provider.

b) Definite 1-2 seconds of delay on calls. Like the old Bugs Bunny cartoon where he hits a home run then rushes to catch the ball he just hit.

c) Calls can take a while to connect.

d) No 911 service.

e) The folks on this forum mostly got their numbers a long time ago, so they got local numbers. Right now, the NEW numbers given out are often not local. For example, one of my relatives here in NJ was just given a Tennessee number.

f) We are already dependent enough on Google. I'd never dream of porting my primary numbers to them. The data mining that they already do is already unsettling.

g) Unless folks are huge users, Voip is pretty cheap. Good outfits like CallCentric, Voip.MS, F9, etc---a few bucks a month. I'm happy to support good carriers, and want them to stay around. Biodiversity is essential for an ecosystem, and telediversity is essential too.

h) Good providers will continue to offer value-added services, such as CallCentric's call treatments and excellent customer service, Voip.MS custom calling features, etc.

i) Most Americans are not yet ready to supply and provision their own ATA's. That's why the BYOD Voip companies (and independent Voip companies in general) are TINY---sorry, they really are---compared to Vonage and compared to cable phone services from Comcast, Cox, Cablevision-Optimum, and TimeWarner (tw).

The ignorance among the American public is astounding. I met a woman who had never updated her antivirus program since she got her computer 5 years earlier. Another thought that because she had AOL, that she did not need any protection at all because AOL would take care of it.

These folks are not much better than the Vikings on the CapitalOne commercials.

So there is no danger that Google Voice will drive other folks out of business anytime soon.

IN FACT, if it causes a greater public awareness of Voip, it may be good for the whole field.

----------------------------

And circling back, Google has never been good at customer service. How will they provide support to millions of Americans who think that a receiver is a guy on the football team?

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GoogleVoice is great. I'll use it with thanks.

But it will not be my primary carrier.

GoogleVoice can be my mistress, but will never be my wife.

mazilo
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reply to PX Eliezer

said by PX Eliezer:

If you say CoDec do you also say MoDem? Think about it.
LOL. You got me! I had used the word MoDem long time ago, but not any more. As with CoDec, you can see I am still using it.

mazilo
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reply to DaveSin

said by DaveSin:

Can someone comment on the possible ramifications this move will have on other VOIP providers, especially when Google Voice start their porting process?
As pointed out by OmagicQ in his post, Google will probably grab a chunck of VoIP market share. I am sure this will have some after effects on some VoSPs, i.e. Vonage, Ooma, and MagicJack.
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Brachio Sulo

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reply to CajunWon

said by CajunWon:

Implications are obvious, how can a provider make money when the Big Gorilla in the room is giving it away for free.
...
imo, this is exciting in that it has potential to change the VoIP landscape. But thinking about NetZero as a free ISP, many downloaded their UI but most did not stay.
Maybe if I made/received more than 400 minutes worth of calls in a month I might be more impressed by gv, but as it is, it's a trivial offering to me.

I am sure as hell not going to open my browser to make a free call when I can spend around 1.25 cents per minute to pick up my phone and do the job. I would save $5.00 per month by using gv, but for such chickenfeed I can't be bothered.

And I spend another $1.00 per month on a DID. So I spend $6.00 per month total for an excellent-sounding connection that does not depend on my pc.

Not to mention that my voip provider, voip.ms, has call-routing features coming out of its ears.

I forgot: I had to buy an ATA - say $50, or $4 per month over a year. So I spend $10 per month for the first year, and $6 thereafter. Still cheap.

Unless gv allows calls via an ata, it will be used by geeks who want to try it out and who will soon tire of it, and by people who talk a heck of a lot, for whom it saves real money.

And my guess is that the trend is toward zero cost for voip calls, and even if it never quite gets there, most vosps will become so cheap that even the 'power users' (I never see that term any more) will dump the klunky gv for a real phone.

mazilo
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reply to digtiger

said by digtiger:

Has anybody set up inbound on ATA using GZ5's server and succeeded?
I believe this approach is what everyone in here is talking about. It works just fine on my PAP2v1 unit configured with a G5 account.

digtiger

join:2009-07-25
Austin, TX

Yes, after one-time try I succeeded. I hope international call from G5 is cheaper, so I can stick with it FOREVER!


PX Eliezer
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reply to digtiger

said by digtiger:

Has anybody set up inbound on ATA using GZ5's server and succeeded?
Being a bit anticlimactic here, but as above, yes, I am using a PAP2T-NA to use the GVG5 combination for inbound and outbound calling.

macman4hire

join:2009-03-30
Port Saint Lucie, FL

reply to macman4hire
Hi everyone,

I got the Gizmo5 softphone to work making outbound calls but can not seem to get it working on my ATA. I suspect it might be the dialing as can dial out to another G5 account. Any ideas?


cadmonkey

join:2009-05-17
Thornhill, ON

reply to PX Eliezer
PX, how do you change your password in GoogleVoice without changing your email password, I can only see a section to change my pin.

I think I will be waiting for a GV invite on an email that's not tied to any personal info before trying this.

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