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Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area. Just to clarify:
If I follow the tutorial mentioned above ( »sipsorcery.wordpress.com/2009/08···utorial/ )
then should I be able to configure my SIP Application on my Iphone (ISIP/SIPPHONE) to make calls? |
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As I said, one can simply run MSS/SS on your own if one don't trust the service. Aaron is always on his forum, for years, whoever else you want to talk to? Someone down in India like when you call a company for customer service?
I just don't want talk with you, OK? Please ignore my posts, and I'll ignore yours from now on.
said by kieranmullen:People want a more reliable service with service, perhaps someone they can talk to. I do not know if you are aware, but the majority of VOIP users in the US are being signed up through cable companies and closed networks with termination also being done directly through the cable cos. The big companies will exploit VOIP to reduce their costs and will not open up their walled gardens. Many are also not at naive as you and know that SipSorcery & GoogleVoice services will not be free forever. BTW Good job insulting 90% of the forum members. said by fixup: Americans won't be either smart enough or willing to spend time to figure out Ruby. They'll simply pay Gizmo5. |
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I can't tell you about the Iphone, but the tutorial is about as clear and as simple as it gets. I departed from the tutorial in only two respects. First, as discussed above, I configured G5 to forward calls to my sipsorcery address (username@sipsorcery.com:5060) rather than having sipsorcery register to G5. Second, I used a dialplan from mxnerd (»mysipswitch.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8892) rather than the one in the tutorial so that I could dial without the country code (1) and could make local calls using 7-digit dialing.
As for this trick getting a lot of use, I doubt it. Like a lot of people here, I do this mostly because it's interesting. I'm not really saving any money because I'm not about to give up my mainstream VoIP service for something as dodgy as this. |
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www.vitelity.com and www.voicepulse.com have US based support.
The cost savings are going to be minimal for a home based setup and really doesn't make it worthwhile especially when these services will not be free long term. (Unless they plan to have google audio ads)
said by fixup:As I said, one can simply run MSS/SS on your own if one don't trust the service. Aaron is always on his forum, for years, whoever else you want to talk to? Someone down in India like when you call a company for customer service? said by kieranmullen:People want a more reliable service with service, perhaps someone they can talk to. I do not know if you are aware, but the majority of VOIP users in the US are being signed up through cable companies and closed networks with termination also being done directly through the cable cos. The big companies will exploit VOIP to reduce their costs and will not open up their walled gardens. Many are also not at naive as you and know that SipSorcery & GoogleVoice services will not be free forever. BTW Good job insulting 90% of the forum members. said by fixup: Americans won't be either smart enough or willing to spend time to figure out Ruby. They'll simply pay Gizmo5. --
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Of course nobody relies solely on this GV/SS, that's the beauty of SIP, you can have as many services as you want. But for now I use it whenever I can because it is free and no hassle.
As for the concern about GV blocking this, here are my thoughts:
1) Unless GV shuts down web placed calls too, there is no way to block a GV dialer, because a dialer can alway emulate a browser.
2) If GV blocks SS, then we can just run it on another computer/server/cloud. SS is open source, nothing to worry about adapting it with GV's game. My IP address changes all the time. And we can always use VPN.
3) Even GV itself makes GV dialers. And they are open source. |
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said by caseydoug:I can't tell you about the Iphone, but the tutorial is about as clear and as simple as it gets. I departed from the tutorial in only two respects. First, as discussed above, I configured G5 to forward calls to my sipsorcery address (username@sipsorcery.com:5060) rather than having sipsorcery register to G5. Second, I used a dialplan from mxnerd (» mysipswitch.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8892) rather than the one in the tutorial so that I could dial without the country code (1) and could make local calls using 7-digit dialing. As for this trick getting a lot of use, I doubt it. Like a lot of people here, I do this mostly because it's interesting. I'm not really saving any money because I'm not about to give up my mainstream VoIP service for something as dodgy as this. well, my IPHONE based softphone can connect with almost any standard SIP providor. Does this setup work well with PC based softphones? |
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You may be right, but just look at the weak links in this chain:
1. Google, which offers its service by invitation only, throws up roadblocks and changes on short notice, and may impose advertising or fees, or may drop the service altogether.
2. Gizmo5 -- 'nuff said.
3. Sip Sorcery (ne MySipSwitch). As great as he is, Aaron is something of a one-man band. Not long ago, he lost the load when his server crashed. Bless him for doing this, but how long can he keep it up without a revenue stream?
I have a couple of old ATAs and analog phones that I keep totally separate from my home telephone system. That's where I play with the eight or ten free VoIP services I subscribe to. Although I recently got rid of Qwest in favor of VOIPo, I don't think I could move my 35 year-old home phone number to any of these free services without risking my marriage.  |
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| caseydoug, excellent points, especially the about porting number and risking marriage! I plan on installing a Sip Sorcery on a server soon in case GV blocks it or Aaron is unable to provide the service for free any longer. Right now in am in love with Sip Sorcery the GV dialing out option. With that said I plan to renew my MagicJack subscription and have several account with PAYG VoIP providers how are extremely reliable for outbound alternatives. For inbound DID alternatives I have IPKall to very reliable over an extended period of time. Sipgate One is a reletivly new VoIP service provider who offers free a DID that has reliable so far. I very comfortable with my current setup as it contains many alternatives if one service should fail or be withdrawn. |
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| said by caseydoug:Yes, counting in my time, I think I've pushed my phone costs down to about $650 per minute. Ain't that the truth! 
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Fishers, IN | reply to macman4hire
OSX Google Voice Dashboard Widget:
»homepage.mac.com/aamann/DashBoard.html |
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