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Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.macman, just follow GZ5's website instruction. don't forward to sip when receiving calls. Use GV for all U.S. calls.
IP Settings
* Proxy Server (Host): proxy01.sipphone.com * Proxy Server (IP): 198.65.166.131 * Registration Server: proxy01.sipphone.com * SIP Port (UDP): 5060 * STUN Server: stun01.sipphone.com * STUN Port: 3478 * User ID: 17471115555 (replacing with your 1747) * Auth ID: 17471115555 (replacing with your 1747) * Password: (your gizmo5 password) |
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digtiger,
What dial plan are you using? |
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to digtiger
Because I have 2 separate lines on my PAP2T, I did not want to enter any STUN settings. The PAP2T does not allow STUN settings per-line.
My config is working OK without using STUN.
YMMV. |
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Here's mine: (<:1>[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|1[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|*xx.)
----------------------- New Voip users: Do NOT use this for regular Voip service, as it does not provide for 911. |
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said by cadmonkey:PX, how do you change your password in GoogleVoice without changing your email password, I can only see a section to change my pin. I think I will be waiting for a GV invite on an email that's not tied to any personal info before trying this. Go to "Settings", then at the very bottom of the page there is a link to Google Account Settings. But at this point, I agree, it may be much "cleaner" to do it on a different e-mail address altogether. |
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to PX Eliezer704
Thanks PX I will try it. Like I said in an earlier posting I can dial out to other G5 accounts but I cannot dial out to US numbers. Note using the softphone works when configured for same account so I hope it is just the dial plan! |
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to PX Eliezer704
What do the cable companies have going for them?said by PX Eliezer704:i) Most Americans are not yet ready to supply and provision their own ATA's. That's why the BYOD Voip companies (and independent Voip companies in general) are TINY---sorry, they really are---compared to Vonage and compared to cable phone services from Comcast, Cox, Cablevision-Optimum, and TimeWarner (tw). I understand the part about being afraid to configure an ATA. It took me a while to go from skype to an ATA, partly because I was uncertain about the wisdom of buying the device by mail, and partly because I share the average man's computer phobia. Vonage got around it by spending a fortune on advertising and on getting their pre-configured ata into retail stores. But they may have spent so much that their debt outweighs their income. Cable companies already have customers, and it is easy? to add the voip component to their service. And the customers have that warm and fuzzy feeling of continuing in the embrace of the nice people who bring them the TV shows. Is that about it, or is there more to the success of the cable companies with voip? Why is it that the vosps we know and love, like les.net and voip.ms, are, it seems, relegated to patronage by geeks like us? Isn't there some way short of them going into hock by advertising, that they can get noticed by the general public? There must be gadget stores like bestbuy, TheSource, etc., that would be open to selling ATAs pre-configured to voip.ms, for example. It seems a shame to see cheap but good outfits like les.net and voip.ms stuck in this backwater, while cable companies charge a lot more but bask in the sunshine of success. |
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to macman4hire
Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.I use WRTP54-G. The dial plan is default of the equipment. My line 2 is voxalot, so I have stun.voxalot.com:3478 in my stun server setting. As PX said, it may not be necessary. |
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I got this working, thanks for the post. Now I have free outgoing and free incoming VoIP. For the Google Voice experts here, is there a way to disable Google's voice mail? This is what I am trying to do:
1. GV number forwarded to G5. 2. G5 doing SIP URI forwarding to Callcentric.
That allows me to receive free calls on Callcentric, but I don't want GV's voicemail. I would like Callcentric to handle my VM. I think GV's VM grabs the call after ringing for 25 seconds. I lowered the number of seconds of Callcentric's VM to 20, but GV still grabs the calls. I am afraid that if I go lower on Callcentric the phone is going to ring 2-3 times before GV sends the call to their VM. Any suggestions? |
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I was using my G5 user account id instead of my G5 number as the user id on the ATA. It appears that your G5 user account id will allow to register to the server and place G5 to G5 calls but will not let you dial out any other calls. So you must your G5 number(1747XXXXXXX) and not your user account id. |
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to PX Eliezer704
said by PX Eliezer704:My outbound caller ID with this new Gizmo5/GoogleVoice setup is my GoogleVoice number. Well, actually---- The GoogleVoice number shows up on the caller ID screens of the phones that I am calling. My name does not show, but rather the city (rate center) that the GoogleVoice number originates from. BUT: When I call the MCI numbercheck 1-800-444-4444, it reads back my Gizmo5 account number (1-747-xxx-xxxx) instead of the GoogleVoice number. -------------------------------- I love Voip. --------------------------------- All Gizmo5 numbers are in what used to be a "pretend" area code, 747. But now, 747 is a REAL area code in California. This is gonna cause problems sooner or later. Let us hope that Gizmo5 has thought about this. l looks like these calls may not be going through googlevoice at all; but that gizmo is spoofing the callerID our GV account and sending/paying for the calls themselves. if the case, than why? maybe they find value in access to our contacts, and friends phone numbers, etc. from our GV accounts. gizmo5 has a history of claiming to have specials contracts and capabilities when they are really just paying for stuff. such seems to be the case with the now defunt backdoordialing. |
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to macman4hire
You can customize your CallerID number in Gizmo5. |
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maziloFrom Mazilo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 Lilburn, GA |
mazilo
Premium Member
2009-Jul-26 11:35 am
said by AllThumbs:You can customize your CallerID number in Gizmo5. Can anyone confirm if this customization is only for a G5-to-G5 call? |
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to macman4hire
has anyone read anything anyplace that leads them to believe that this is really a bi-lateral thing between G5 and GV? perhaps a press release or comment from someone working for google?
somehow i believe that this is completely uni-lateral on the part of G5 and that G5 is presently paying for all the calls and simply spoofing callerID. if this is true i do not see this having any kind of a long term future, except perhaps on a paid basis; in fact it would not surprise me if google decides to cut their sip peering links with G5 as a result of this.
smells to me like G5 hoping to quickly aquire a bunch of new customers as GV grows with the hopes of converting a small percentage to paid customers when they abruptly end this as they did with 'backdoor' |
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to digtiger
How do I receive incoming on SIP adapter? I can dial but can never receive a call.. ANy ideas ? I am using user ID 17474732014 proxy01.sipphone.com:5060 Enabled I am using mysipswitch as the server I even gave register this provider |
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Probably you don't need mysipswitch as the server. Remember not to forward sip to anywhere if you want GZ5 to adapter directly. |
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Re: What do the cable companies have going for them?said by CanDID :
It seems a shame to see cheap but good outfits like les.net and voip.ms stuck in this backwater, while cable companies charge a lot more but bask in the sunshine of success. Companies like VOIPo and PhonePower are trying to break into this market. Advertising does cost a lot of money. It's a Catch-22. There is SO much ignorance out there. I know lots of smart people who either have never heard of Voip, or who think that Vonage is the only Voip company. The cable companies charge so much more than independent Voipers, but still a better value than POTS for most customers. And they advertise so much, push their triple plays so much. Smaller Voip players may have to wait until the majority of customers defect from POTS to Cablephone, and THEN they can jump in and say we can offer you something even better and cheaper than your cable phone service. Cable phone does at least keep alive the idea of having a phone at home, rather than ONLY having cellular service. |
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to macman4hire
Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.I found out the trick.I need to forward GV number to Gizmo5 Thanks |
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to macman4hire
What's the daily outbound call limit on GV?I heard it is 300 minutes per day which will come to 5 hours. Any other restrictions? Thanks |
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to PX Eliezer704
Re: What do the cable companies have going for them?said by PX Eliezer704:said by CanDID :
It seems a shame to see cheap but good outfits like les.net and voip.ms stuck in this backwater, while cable companies charge a lot more but bask in the sunshine of success. Companies like VOIPo and PhonePower are trying to break into this market. Advertising does cost a lot of money. It's a Catch-22. There is SO much ignorance out there. I know lots of smart people who either have never heard of Voip, or who think that Vonage is the only Voip company. The cable companies charge so much more than independent Voipers, but still a better value than POTS for most customers. And they advertise so much, push their triple plays so much. Smaller Voip players may have to wait until the majority of customers defect from POTS to Cablephone, and THEN they can jump in and say we can offer you something even better and cheaper than your cable phone service. Cable phone does at least keep alive the idea of having a phone at home, rather than ONLY having cellular service. i find that the only way to avoid utter confusion with the masses is to call whatever form of voip i am really talking about 'SKYPE.' there is simply no way to explain to the average guy what i am talking about when i say 'SIP' or 'VOIP.' but if i call it skype they have i pretty close idea of exactly what i am referring too. on the other hand i know lots of people using 'comcast for phone service.' none of these people see them selves as 'VOIP users' they simply have comcast for phone instead of quest or verizon or AT&T. skype users on the other hand do feel like they are somehow on the cutting edge of technology, and ultra-intelligent compared to the masses for being able to save so much on phone calls. |
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2009-Jul-26 12:09 pm
to AllThumbs
Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.said by AllThumbs:You can customize your CallerID number in Gizmo5. are you able to do this with calls supposedly going through GV? |
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Oh My!!said by tom thomas :
Has anyone read anything anyplace that leads them to believe that this is really a bi-lateral thing between G5 and GV? perhaps a press release or comment from someone working for google?
somehow i believe that this is completely uni-lateral on the part of G5 and that G5 is presently paying for all the calls and simply spoofing callerID. if this is true i do not see this having any kind of a long term future, except perhaps on a paid basis; in fact it would not surprise me if google decides to cut their sip peering links with G5 as a result of this.
smells to me like G5 hoping to quickly aquire a bunch of new customers as GV grows with the hopes of converting a small percentage to paid customers when they abruptly end this as they did with 'backdoor' I think this is possible, but it's CONFUSING! Damm! Evidence FOR this idea:a) As above, outbound calls to other parties show GoogleVoice caller ID, but calling 1-800-444-4444 shows Gizmo5 number. b) Outbound dialing still accesses SipBroker by the usual Gizmo5 method. c) (Added in edit): Outbound calls do not show up on GoogleVoice records. Evidence AGAINST this idea:a) On the Gizmo5 website, we only had to input the GoogleVoice username and password, not the GoogleVoice phone number---- UNLESS you think that Gizmo5 used that info to go to the GoogleVoice website to obtain the GoogleVoice number ?!
NOW THAT WOULD BE DISTURBING!! |
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Re: What do the cable companies have going for them?said by tom thomas :
i find that the only way to avoid utter confusion with the masses is to call whatever form of voip i am really talking about 'SKYPE.' there is simply no way to explain to the average guy what i am talking about when i say 'SIP' or 'VOIP.' but if i call it skype they have i pretty close idea of exactly what i am referring too. That's discouraging. I had visions of a bin full of ATAs at staples, pre-programmed to Callcentric, selling like hotcakes because of a banner that said: "VOIP - Call North America for 2 cents a minute!!!" "VOIP - Call the UK and 17 other countries for 2 cents a minute!!!!" Maybe the banner will have to read: "Just like SKYPE - Call....." |
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Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.so if you add your GV info into G5 and pick use for all calls (realize all usa calls are free) you would then not use G5 'Call Out' credit but instead credit you added to GV, correct?
Im really not sure why they would make it this easy to bypass their system? unless Google buys them out... |
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Re: Oh My!!I can envision the following business model for Google Voice.
1. Serving targeted visual ads on the GV and other Google services web portals. 2. Serving audio ads when any user who places a call either using the GV web portal or by calling their GV number * 2 deal. 3. Buy an existing VoIP service provider possible Gizmo5 or create their own to have a premium direct dial out access option for a fee. 4. Continue to offer free voicemail and call forwarding from customers GV numbers. 5. Test market the reaction to serving ads to individuals who call a GV users number. I believe this is a gray area as far being expectable by GV users and GV should proceed with caution and carefully study the markets reaction to this concept.
Note if they take this approach they will not alienate their current customer base by drastically changing the current functionality of their current service offerings. This type of strategy will ensure revenue from both the free service or the paid service. Of course a small percentage of customers will still complain about being subjected to an ad for a free call but in time this be culturally excepted just like current customers who subscribe to Cable TV/Direct and are forced to watch television ads. |
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Re: Gizmo5 has added a Google Voice section in its members area.I have it working. gizmo does not let me choose 'use for all calls'. I have to use the 'use for us calls'. I'm in Canada, so google voice does not let me call to Canada. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Another odd thing is that I don't see a record of my calls either on the gizmo site or in my google voice account. I just spent 45 minutes talking to someone in the US, plus a few minutes making test calls, but do not see records of any of the calls.
Not that I am complaining. I'll use this until it disappears. |
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i really do not see any weight in an argument that google would consider buying G5. for one they already have gtalk and gmail video and voice chat. they could easily integrate GV into that and even add SIP connectivity. but real reason i do not see it happening is that G5 has traditional had too many hack, workarounds, and unauthorized element to there services. google would never buy a service that relies on hacks to integrate with yahoo and microsoft chat engines, or that uses hacks to connect with skype such as with opensky. it would simply not be acceptable for a company the size of google to do so many things that violates terms of use of there competitors. |
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said by ghgklgfdsdrt :
Another odd thing is that I don't see a record of my calls either on the gizmo site or in my google voice account. I was mistaken. I made a few more test calls and see them showing up in the gv history. |
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I think you missed the larger point of my post. It is not really relevant who GV adds to provide direct dial access. The major point of the post was how GV could expand it revenue without alienating their current user base. I happened to agree with you about Gizmo5 less than stellar reputation in the VoIP industry but if Google did decide to go the route of buying a VSP it would mostly likely be Gizmo5 because of its current association which is a left over from Grand Central days.
Many people have commented at several different forums that GV will not be able offer free continental US calls unless they can find a suitable revenue stream to offset the direct cost offering these free calls. Logistical it makes perfect sense for GV require its user to listen to an ad for the access of free calling. This observation is further strengthened by that fact that GV has recently filed for patents to protect the concept of serving audio advertisements instead the traditional ringing tone. Many may not want the minor inconvenience of listening to 15 to 30 second ad for the opportunity to place a free call. GV would be fiscally irresponsible not offer this percentage of its established users an option which would produce additional revenue for them. GV can add value to this type of customers experience by creating a seamless experience for both ends(inbound and outbound services) Gv concept. Current complaints such having ones caller id not being correctly displayed would obviously now function as intended thus meeting the customers exceptions if controlled solely by GV or a subsidiary company. |
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said by AllThumbs:You can customize your CallerID number in Gizmo5. First, Gizmo5 Outgoing Caller ID for 1 year cost US$4 * Set the Caller ID that other people see when you call them. Example: Set your Caller ID to your mobile phone number, even though you're calling from Gizmo5 * You can renew your Caller ID privilege before it expires Second, Google Voice only pass original CID called directly to Google Voice number. All outgoing calls made from Google Voice has Google Voice number. |
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