macman4hire
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1 edit | netTalk tk6000
Has anyone used this service »https://www.tk6000.com According to their website the total with shipping is $100.00 including the first 3 years of service. The service can renew for another year for $20.00. I wonder if this is Ymax company like MagicJack as the video style and wording resembles MagicJack ads. |
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B
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| It's not the same device -- it's not reliant on a PC.
It has a USB connection that can optionally be used to connect to a PC, but it also can be directly attached via RJ45 to a router or modem...
But no, I never heard of it before...
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pagemen
join:2008-12-28
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| It's a very interesting device(&service), the mini-USB port is used for power as well as PC connectivity. I read the manual but can't find a download for the driver(It does work along without PC).
And, its SIP-based and should work with other ATA/Asterisk box. Their web portal is the standard A2billing interface with SIP/IAX info provided!!
»faq.nettalk.com/index.php?_m=dow···temid=29 |
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voipjunk
join:2004-08-07
Largo, FL | reply to macman4hire
Is it one year or three years, I can see
You will receive free unlimited local and long distance calling for 3 years. After that time you will be billed $19.95 per year for phone service. |
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macman4hire
join:2009-03-30
1 edit | Sorry I guess I miss read it. Corrected initial post. Thanks! |
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newpup
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yes I purchased One. Received in about 3 days. I just plugged the device it into my router and plugged the phone into the device. works fine so far. |
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PX Eliezer
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1 edit | reply to macman4hire
Looks like they just got their current website last month.
But the company was incorporated in Florida a few years ago, and changed its name from Discover Screens.
They have been applying for CLEC licenses in various states.
And here's something interesting:
»www.flpsc.com/library/filings/09···4-09.pdf
Looks like they are asking the Florida authorities to approve this change:
An interconnection agreement between Verizon and YMax (MagicJack) now exists. NetTalk will adopt the same agreement with Verizon as well.
They are also doing this in other states.
Interesting that they are based in Miami, same town as MagicJack/YMax.
MUCH MORE INFO:
»investing.businessweek.com/resea···52892952
Includes this:
Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced delayed 10-Q filing-----
On 06/30/2009, Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced that they will be unable to file their next 10-Q by the deadline required by the SEC.
Net Talk.Com, Inc. Auditor Raises 'Going Concern' Doubt----
Net Talk.Com, Inc. filed its Annual on February 09, 2009 for the period ending September 30, 2008. In this report its auditor, KBL LLP, gave an unqualified opinion expressing doubt that the company can continue as a going concern. |
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B
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join:2000-10-28 | I doubt anyone really gives a !$()@*#$% about the company, but that little ATA is very interesting.
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PX Eliezer
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| said by B  :I doubt anyone really gives a !$()@*#$% about the company, but that little ATA is very interesting. -- B I think the company would be very interesting IF it turns out to have business dealings with MagicJack. |
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macman4hire
join:2009-03-30 | PX,
Nice job on the research! This is indeed very interesting. |
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macman4hire
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According to this video the hardware is made in the USA.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bgRariy···=related |
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B
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Fascinating. Another CLEC, "Ntera", is right next door too.
The Internet's such a wonderful tool.
Another variation on the above filings at »docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cach···en&gl=us
You know, after a little sleuthing I thought the trail was cold -- no other apparent connections between the two company heads.
But then I found this from December 2008
»74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:nF···nk&gl=us
(Google Cache)
Whether or not there's a formal connection, at the least NetTalk "borrowed" that document from YMax -- they neglected to change at least two occurrences of "YMax" to NetTalk. 
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PX Eliezer
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| It is also disheartening to see basic language errors in a legal document:
"NET TALK.COM, INC. has no principle office in South Dakota..."
(The word should be "principal" in this context).
We all make such mistakes in daily life and in casual contexts. Seeing them in legal filings, Wall Street Journal articles, and so forth, is unfortunate.
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"A reader once suggested to us a way that everyone can keep this pair straight: if you can substitute 'main' (which contains an 'a'), use principal (which also contains an 'a'). If you can substitute 'rule' (which ends in 'le'), use principle (which also ends in 'le')."
(William and Mary Morris, Harper Dictionary of Contemporary Usage, Harper & Row, 1975) |
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B
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| Nah! Even 30 years ago that would have been a stupid, unrealistic, and excessively obscure rule. I suspect it was made up by patronizing grammarians with too much time on their hands.
Everyone can "remember" how to "keep this pair straight" by... knowing what the damn words mean! Their meanings aren't even close to one another, so mistaking one for the other should be no more likely than mistaking "brake" for "break" or "past" for "passed". In other words, if you're that stupid or careless there's no hope.
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reho33
join:2009-04-20
Brewster, NY | reply to macman4hire
Not much information about porting, international rates, etc? Is it an "ATA"? |
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newpup
join:2009-07-27
Charlotte, NC
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I work in telecom. It is standard practice for CLEC's to Opt-in to existing Interconnection Agreements. YMAX did the same, So did many other Telephone companies. It is faster opting into an existing negotiated agreement between the Local Exchange then having to start from scratch. MY 2 cents! |
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PX Eliezer
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said by B :Nah! Even 30 years ago that would have been a stupid, unrealistic, and excessively obscure rule. I suspect it was made up by patronizing grammarians with too much time on their hands. Everyone can "remember" how to "keep this pair straight" by... knowing what the damn words mean! I respectfully disagree.
As I said, we all make errors in daily usage, but to see basic errors in legal documents, and in articles in major newspapers, is indicative of the slow death of the language.
This carelessness has already resulted in loss of the rather different meanings of "infer" and "imply".
The process is currently occurring with regard to "wary" and "weary".
Language evolves. Telefacsimile became telefax and then simply fax. (Moderator: That's our VoIP connection )
However, in that case, there was no loss of precision or clarity.
I agree with the following comment which was recently posted on a site (not "sight") related to education in Ireland:
"...Sometimes I cringe when I see that the best paid teachers in Europe write "to" when they mean "too"; "their" when they mean "there" and vice versa; "click" when they mean "clique" and so on.
To me, that doesn't seem like someone's typing in a hurry and doesn't bother dotting the i's and crossing the t's. That seems like many teachers don't know the difference, and that's both worrying and embarrassing..." |
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B
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| Err, ironically for two people patting their own backs for being precise with language, I'm not sure where we disagree.
I'm not contradicting anything you've said. My only issue was with the rather ponderous and questionable "substitute main or rule" technique of trying to keep straight the distinction between the words "principal" and "principle".
I'm saying the right way to honor that distinction isn't by memorizing silly mnemonics, but by memorizing the meaning of the words one is choosing to use...
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said by PX Eliezer :But the company was incorporated in Florida a few years ago, and changed its name from Discover Screens. Interesting that they are based in Miami, same town as MagicJack/YMax. Two big scam red flags... Only thing that would make it worse than Miami is if they were in Boca or Ft. Lauderdale. This area seems to be a hot bed for scams and spam.. |
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Stewart
join:2005-07-13 | reply to B
In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles. |
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