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netTalk tk6000

It's not the same device -- it's not reliant on a PC.

It has a USB connection that can optionally be used to connect to a PC, but it also can be directly attached via RJ45 to a router or modem...

But no, I never heard of it before...

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It's a very interesting device(&service), the mini-USB port is used for power as well as PC connectivity. I read the manual but can't find a download for the driver(It does work along without PC).

And, its SIP-based and should work with other ATA/Asterisk box. Their web portal is the standard A2billing interface with SIP/IAX info provided!!

»faq.nettalk.com/index.php?_m=dow···temid=29

reply to macman4hire
Is it one year or three years, I can see

You will receive free unlimited local and long distance calling for 3 years. After that time you will be billed $19.95 per year for phone service.

Sorry I guess I miss read it. Corrected initial post. Thanks!

reply to macman4hire
yes I purchased One. Received in about 3 days. I just plugged the device it into my router and plugged the phone into the device. works fine so far.

reply to macman4hire
Looks like they just got their current website last month.

But the company was incorporated in Florida a few years ago, and changed its name from Discover Screens.

They have been applying for CLEC licenses in various states.

And here's something interesting:

»www.flpsc.com/library/filings/09···4-09.pdf

Looks like they are asking the Florida authorities to approve this change:

An interconnection agreement between Verizon and YMax (MagicJack) now exists. NetTalk will adopt the same agreement with Verizon as well.

They are also doing this in other states.

Interesting that they are based in Miami, same town as MagicJack/YMax.

MUCH MORE INFO:

»investing.businessweek.com/resea···52892952

Includes this:

Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced delayed 10-Q filing-----
On 06/30/2009, Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced that they will be unable to file their next 10-Q by the deadline required by the SEC.

Net Talk.Com, Inc. Auditor Raises 'Going Concern' Doubt----
Net Talk.Com, Inc. filed its Annual on February 09, 2009 for the period ending September 30, 2008. In this report its auditor, KBL LLP, gave an unqualified opinion expressing doubt that the company can continue as a going concern.

I doubt anyone really gives a !$()@*#$% about the company, but that little ATA is very interesting.

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PX,

Nice job on the research! This is indeed very interesting.

reply to macman4hire
According to this video the hardware is made in the USA.

reply to macman4hire
Fascinating. Another CLEC, "Ntera", is right next door too.

The Internet's such a wonderful tool.

Another variation on the above filings at »docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cach···en&gl=us

You know, after a little sleuthing I thought the trail was cold -- no other apparent connections between the two company heads.

But then I found this from December 2008

»74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:nF···nk&gl=us

(Google Cache)

Whether or not there's a formal connection, at the least NetTalk "borrowed" that document from YMax -- they neglected to change at least two occurrences of "YMax" to NetTalk.

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It is also disheartening to see basic language errors in a legal document:

"NET TALK.COM, INC. has no principle office in South Dakota..."

(The word should be "principal" in this context).

We all make such mistakes in daily life and in casual contexts. Seeing them in legal filings, Wall Street Journal articles, and so forth, is unfortunate.

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"A reader once suggested to us a way that everyone can keep this pair straight: if you can substitute 'main' (which contains an 'a'), use principal (which also contains an 'a'). If you can substitute 'rule' (which ends in 'le'), use principle (which also ends in 'le')."

(William and Mary Morris, Harper Dictionary of Contemporary Usage, Harper & Row, 1975)

Nah! Even 30 years ago that would have been a stupid, unrealistic, and excessively obscure rule. I suspect it was made up by patronizing grammarians with too much time on their hands.

Everyone can "remember" how to "keep this pair straight" by... knowing what the damn words mean! Their meanings aren't even close to one another, so mistaking one for the other should be no more likely than mistaking "brake" for "break" or "past" for "passed". In other words, if you're that stupid or careless there's no hope.

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reply to macman4hire
Not much information about porting, international rates, etc? Is it an "ATA"?

reply to PX Eliezer
I work in telecom. It is standard practice for CLEC's to Opt-in to existing Interconnection Agreements. YMAX did the same, So did many other Telephone companies. It is faster opting into an existing negotiated agreement between the Local Exchange then having to start from scratch. MY 2 cents!

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Err, ironically for two people patting their own backs for being precise with language, I'm not sure where we disagree.

I'm not contradicting anything you've said. My only issue was with the rather ponderous and questionable "substitute main or rule" technique of trying to keep straight the distinction between the words "principal" and "principle".

I'm saying the right way to honor that distinction isn't by memorizing silly mnemonics, but by memorizing the meaning of the words one is choosing to use...

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In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles.