netTalk tk6000 in VOIP Tech Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22773621 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:21:37 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:21:37 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23716922 Kosherdog : »www.crunchgear.com/2010/01/26/ma···e-arent/

I found the link above along with the quoted text below which is funny reading and viewing together.

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I love CEO spats. A few days ago the MagicJack CEO, Dan Borislow (Shown above at his party at CES. Seriously. It was just like that.) was talking about his femtocell and was all like:

I’m sure you’ve heard of netTALK, the new magicJack rival. Any opinions on the device?
It’s a piece of sh*t. It has static. The call quality is pathetic. There’s no phone numbers available, and it’s run by a bunch of fly-by-nights with no assets. They’ll be bankrupt soon. We’re a real company with the best network and best software.

BAM! TWO HITS! I HIT YOU, YOU HIT THE GROUND.

So anyway, netTALK is now all like:

We, at netTALK, would like to respond to the comments made about our company and our product, the TK6000, as of late. Contrary to comments made, our company is founded and run by a staff of seasoned executives with decades of experience who firmly attests to and stands behind the high quality of netTALK’s policies, customer service practices, network and product development activities. Unlike others on the market, the TK6000 works independent of a computer, offering more convenience, flexibility and functionality to the end user – not to mention cost and energy savings. Because the TK6000 is flexible enough to not require the use of a fully powered computer to make and receive calls like other units, our customers are able to save time, energy and money. We developed the TK6000 by reviewing the current leading products in the category and focusing on the best attributes from each, resulting in a product we, and our loyal customers, feel is a best-of-all-worlds communication device.

BOOM! BACK ATCHA!

Anyway, MagicJack is good for folks who don’t know how to use Skype and, presumably, netTALK is the same stuff. Both are good for your grandma who doesn’t know VoIP from Vincent Price. But it’s nice to see that netTALK took the high road.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23716922 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:24:26 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23709282 macman4hire : Here is a link to a comment reportedly made by Dan Borislow about the competition netTalk from a recent interview he did with Laptop Magazine as reported Engadget.com.
»www.engadget.com/2010/01/21/nett···founder/

Dan Borislow said "It's a piece of shit. It has static. The call quality is pathetic. There's no phone numbers available, and it's run by a bunch of fly-by-nights with no assets. They'll be bankrupt soon. We're a real company with the best network and best software."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23709282 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:03:47 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23703420 Beware u :
said by Kosherdog See Profile :


It looks like booze is taking its toll!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23703420 Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:50:20 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23698655 Kosherdog :
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23698655 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:03:49 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23688051 garys_2k :
said by wa2tqi See Profile :

I have had 2 TK6000's now and both have a very loud hum on the single line phone I want to use...
Sounds like the unit's sitting in a pretty strong AC magnetic field. Could you try moving it to a different room (use a long Ethernet cable) and see if the problem goes away?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23688051 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:00:43 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23687845 wa2tqi : I can tell you for certain the user name is admin.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23687845 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:15:25 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23687794 anon : I have had 2 TK6000's now and both have a very loud hum on the single line phone I want to use with them. No solution found to resolve this from there tech group. The last one they want me to send back to corporate so they can see this problem. If I hold the unit in my hand the hum goes completely away.
Anyone else have this problem?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23687794 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:05:41 EDT To: macman4hire Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23686492 Kosherdog : Qiuck question? Are selling your 3 magic jacks. If yes, my I ask why?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23686492 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:24:12 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23682958 PX Eliezer :
said by macman4hire See Profile :

Watch this YouTube video and you will see Dan Borislow enter the shot at about the 43 second mark. He appears out of shape and is missing the glint of winning energy in his eyes.
The result of too much Magicjacking.

It drains vital bodily fluids.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23682958 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:33:28 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23682846 macman4hire : Watch this YouTube video and you will see Dan Borislow enter the shot at about the 43 second mark. He appears out of shape and is missing the glint of winning energy in his eyes. This not the way I would choose represent a company that owned.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyRnDQw2b2U
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23682846 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:10:59 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23681542 PX Eliezer : The chief MagicJacker, Dan Borislow, has done NetTalk a big favor by lashing out at them.

It generates enormous publicity, which is very useful for them.

NetTalk should send Dan a gift!

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I suppose that Dan never read the story "A Slander" by the great Russian author Anton Chekhov.

»chekhov2.tripod.com/013.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23681542 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:39:42 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23679565 Kosherdog : I have not posted in a while. Sometimes it is good just to observe the world without comments. But for those that may have missed it, NetTalk was referred to in a short write up in Laptopmag. See:
»blog.laptopmag.com/can-the-netta···agicjack
I guess this really upset MJ’s Ceo, Dan Borislow, who lashed out in the following article:
»www.slashgear.com/magicjack-plan···2170929/
I would not have believed that little Nettalk could attract such a scathing comment.
And, at the same time, I see NetTalk getting better reviews from it users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23679565 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:35:23 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23656034 macman4hire : netTalk's web traffic appears to of its recent October high.

»siteanalytics.compete.com/nettalk.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23656034 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:06:15 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23656033 macman4hire : Preston not sure what you are saying. I do not know what gpes is.

Acronym Definition
GPES Ground Proximity Extraction System
GPES Great Plains Energy Services, Inc. (Kansas City, MO)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23656033 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:03:32 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23655950 prestonlewis :
said by macman4hire See Profile :

Has anyone used this service »https://www.tk6000.com According to their website the total with shipping is $100.00 including the first 3 years of service. The service can renew for another year for $20.00. I wonder if this is Ymax company like MagicJack as the video style and wording resembles MagicJack ads.
good luck,. Luck luck i no what it gpes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23655950 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:17:18 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23655361 mitchd123 : I was considering purchasing the device until I saw what happened to the stock earlier this month. I'm making no judgments, but the stock appears to have dropped from the $1 dollar range to 58 cents. The technology seems amazing and I would love to see this company make it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23655361 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:47:43 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23548308 prestonlewis : You're using a stock quote from the month netTALK left beta and began general sales? That's an example of "your homework" skills?

And here I was, waiting with baited breath for you to reply with some link demonstrating the evils of netTALK's managers, their criminal conspiracies, and how they all engage in Satanic rituals in their server room.

And the best you can come up with is "i told you so" in 6 months before your dire predictions of criminal carnage occur.

Pretty lame, dude. Pretty lame.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23548308 Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:26:21 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23548122 Beware u : I haven't said anything other than what was written by others: namely Yahoo sources and Nettalk web site & their quarterly Reports.
Interlink has nothing to do with the present operation.

See attached Statement. NTLK YTD

For your sake I hope they will still be around in 6-12months.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23548122 Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:15:40 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23547947 prestonlewis : Beware u, I don't think you're being completely fair.

netTALK was a product offered by Interlink Global (established 1987) back around 2005. It was mainly a video/voip offering. Interlink was a big pay by the minute operation and serviced a number of South American nations as well as the US. The netTALK video/voip service was never that popular and was just a small part of Interlink's business.

Then, Interlink went bankrupt and the majority of their assets were purchased by a NC based advertising company which wanted the netTALK dongle. The NC advertising company eventually took the name netTALK, exited the advertising business, and now operates as netTALK. The NC advertiser kept the majority of netTALK's employees and management.

Some might think the Interlink bankrupty was due to mismangement by Kyriakides and I haven't fully explored the reasons for Interlinks bankrupty but one reason that others have put forth is the socialist tendencies of Venzuela, Peru and other South American nations where Interlink Global operated.

So the "team" of nettalk has been around in the phone industry for a while, the nettalk product has been around for about 6 years, and the name wasn't borrowed from a European company.

As for the stocks and financial situation, I'm not sure how much of the money/stock came from the NC advertiser that purchased the Interlink assets and how much was sold recently.

I don't think you've done your homework with your assertions.
Additionally, Kyriakides, who ran the old Interlink and the current netTALK has had his hand in many business such as Regency Cruise Lines and can be considered as a "startup tycoon". Now, any businessman is likely to have his dark side and his shady dealings, but Kyriakides doesn't have a history of wrecking his startups or of stealing and enriching himself from the various enterprises he has operated.

So again, I think your post is very superficial and is lacking many of the overall details.

If you want to build a case against Kyriakides and other netTALK managers, you should begin by invetigating Interlink Global's SEC filings. Interlink wrapped up operations and filings in April, 2009, so there is a lot of paper trail you can explore. I haven't seen anything concerning Interlink Global that concerns me. Additionally, if you look at netTALK's various stock papertrails, Kyriakides and a few others control the vast majority of netTALK's stock. It doesn't appear like they are selling stock to get rich, they're buying their own stock.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23547947 Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:13:14 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23530441 prestonlewis : There is no access to the TK6000s settings. It's a locked unit. So no dial plan configuration is possible.

Yes, you have to dial 11 digits to make a call. netTALK has stated they are "working" on a solution for several months now but nothing so far.

You are not required to dial # after entering a phone number.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23530441 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:31:10 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23529495 mazilo :
said by Jacked_ip :

The only thing i
can say i don't like about the tk is you have to push 1 for all number's and pound at the end to make a call.
On (all) Linksys/Cisco SPA devices, these features can be automatically accomplished through a dial-plan context. If your TK device supports for a dial-plan context configuration, then you probably can reconfigure your TK device to achieve these two features.
--
Mazilo always prays for FREEBIES!
UK Phone: +44-703-194-2574
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23529495 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:57:52 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23529383 anon : Just got my tk6000 and i happy to say it work's very good!
I have a magicjack and this is much better! The only thing i
can say i don't like about the tk is you have to push 1 for all number's and pound at the end to make a call. It has a good call quality and not having to plug it into your pc is nice!
I don't care what anyone says the guy's at magicjack hack your pc when there bord, there ip's are always trying to get onto my pc even when i unplug it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23529383 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:46:31 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23512909 anon : In most cases, NetTalk will give you a special request Area Code phone number, if you submit a trouble ticket. That's how I received my 202.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23512909 Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:59:12 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23512907 anon : As of today, the garble/stutter problem appears to be fixed. I've been enjoying stutter free calls all afternoon using the TK6000.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23512907 Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:59:02 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23484213 joe123 :
said by prestonlewis See Profile :

Does anyone have any information on netTALK providing/selling the login password or have any other ideas?
If you ever find the answer, please post it. Several of us like to be able to log into the Tk6000 dongle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23484213 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:40:35 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23481354 prestonlewis : Changing the subject, I have 2 TK6000 netTALK dongles that are paid for but I don't plan to use them. I thought about selling them on eBay for a fraction of what I paid for them.

However, what I'd really like to do is unlock them and use them with another provider.

Does anyone have any information on netTALK providing/selling the login password or have any other ideas?

Normally, I'd give this to a friend or coworker to use to save money but the stutter problem makes netTALK useless in my opinion. Additionally, they don't offer phone numbers in my area code. The nearest they offer is in the Bay Area about 80 miles away.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23481354 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:22:02 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479346 mazilo :
said by Paul Beanyun :

There are posts at another forum from users saying they've done so with their NetTalk credentials. The stutter problem persists.
Thanks for all your information. At least, now I know to avoid this company. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479346 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:44:05 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479066 anon : There are posts at another forum from users saying they've done so with their NetTalk credentials. The stutter problem persists.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479066 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:48:37 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479031 anon : The second to last post on this page »forum.nettalk.com/viewtopic.php?···start=10

suggests that has been tried, and the same stutter happens. If true, that should at least exonerate the TK6K device. However, the network still has this chronic problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479031 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:47:34 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479040 prestonlewis : The stutter netTALK problem is pretty unique in my experience using various VOIP providers. I've never heard anything quite like it. It's like a noise pulse. A steady, short rhythmic pulse that is unlike anything else I've encountered with other providers.

Since netTALK is proprietary and locked down, similar to MJ, it's impossible to duplicate using other equipment.

netTALK reportedly uses various codecs to save on bandwidth and I've suspected that could be the issue.

netTALK also uses Asterisk, which I know very little about. I got an email recently:

Asterisk PBX concen1@nettalktelecom.com
Dear lewis preston:

Just wanted to let you know you were just left a 0:27 long message (number 3)
in mailbox 2173260447 from +18187103721, on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 at 12:53:20 PM so you might
want to check it when you get a chance. Thanks!

--Asterisk

I don't know much about Asterisk to know whether the stutter might be a problem in the software or what.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23479040 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:24:04 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478996 mazilo :
said by Paul Beanyun :

No, it's not bandwidth. I have other VOIP services, and they work great.
Can you configure your TK6K account on any ATA device to see if the problem still persist?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478996 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:10:56 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478696 anon : No, it's not bandwidth. I have other VOIP services, and they work great.

Besides, we've not been able to locate a single TK6000 user who does not suffer from the stutters.

7.1mb/768kbps Verizon DSL.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478696 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:45:51 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478473 mazilo :
said by Paul Beanyun :

You'll be talking fine, then suddenenenenenenenly, you'll hear stutter for a few seconds (or loss of transmit).
Itttt lookookok likekeke yououour conononececection suffffers from sufficient bandwidth. Whahahaht is yoyouourr bababandndndwididth?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478473 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:33:07 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478297 anon : Good thinking, but this problem doesn't happen during dial tone.

It happens periodically within a conversation. Usually, in my experience, it is my outgoing voice (as tested with my landline in the same home). You'll be talking fine, then suddenenenenenenenly, you'll hear stutter for a few seconds (or loss of transmit). Annoying, especially when you're trying to talk to someone for real, and not just for test calls. You keep hearing the other party say "I lost you for a few seconds, can you repeat that?"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478297 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:29:01 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478245 mazilo :
said by Micah512 :

..., I really do wish they would fix the stutter problem and ...
Doesn't stutter tone indicate the presence of a voicemail? I don't use this device and don't know if this feature can be turned off; however, on a Linksys PAP2v1 unit, this feature can be turned off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23478245 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:59:33 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477787 anon : you are correct sir--I stand corrected!--However, I really do wish they would fix the stutter problem and the dropped calls and get the voicemail/email thing working properly--I am wanting to do away with my traditional phone service, and if they can ever get it working properly this would be as close to perfect as I have seen, for the price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477787 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:43:17 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477728 prestonlewis :
said by Micah512 :

Well, I took the plunge, and got myself a tk6000, imagine my surprise when I opened the box and I can see, inside the device a RJ45 jack that has Magic-jack molded into it!
MagJack is etched on the RJ45 port, not MagicJack. If you Google "MagJack", you'll see it a widely used connector module used in many products.

netTALK as a company has also been pretty widely investigated. It has nothing to do with MJ.

If you dig around, you'll see that a previous company operated netTALK as a video/VOIP product around 2005. That company went bankrupt. A NC company bought the assets and kept the employees and rolled out the current netTALK product.

As for the stutter, that's why I'd never recommend netTALK to anyone. netTALK works perfectly fine, very similar to MJ and not needing a computer to use netTALK really is great. But the stutter problem ruins the whole product.

MagJack
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477728 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:57:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477635 anon : Well, I took the plunge, and got myself a tk6000, imagine my surprise when I opened the box and I can see, inside the device a RJ45 jack that has Magic-jack molded into it!--I think this is a pretty good sign that these are being made by the same company, although I suspect that the service is being offered by a "daughter" company. so far I have had it up and running for 3 days now, the caller id seems to work ok, and the call clarity is ok, there seems to be a lot of "stutter " when I am using it, and for most of the 1st day the calls all seemed to be trying to go to a voicemail, which I never got, but I think I got that fixed, now if it would stop dropping calls in the middle of a conversation I would be very happy with this service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477635 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:18:54 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477470 joe123 : I double checked and it's like I said.

The username and password on the Tk6000 is for accessing the Nettalk web interface for your account.

So does anyone know how to get into the Tk6000 dongle itself? What is the username and password?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23477470 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:11:05 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23475947 joe123 : Not the Nettalk web customer interface, but the Tk6000 dongle itself.

Not sure what the username and password is, but I will try the ones that came with the unit and report back, but I doubt that's it.

Again, it's the login into the Tk6000 unit iself which when open with IE, it responds back with username and password.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23475947 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:50:16 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23475766 PX Eliezer :
said by joe123 See Profile :

I can access the URL http : // tk600-ip-address and see a login screen asking username and password.

Anyone figured out how to get into the Tk6000?
By putting in the username and password?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23475766 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:13:06 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23475406 joe123 : Has anyone figured out how to log into the Tk6000 unit?

I can access the URL http : // tk600-ip-address and see a login screen asking username and password.

Anyone figured out how to get into the Tk6000?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23475406 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:57:53 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23388115 Solearth : I had UPS send mine back last week. The incoming voice was fine, but the outgoing voice was too choppy. I assume that they were using the G729 codec without sufficient jitter buffering.
Lifetime service was great, but poor outgoing voice meant an early death.

If a later model comes out with a faster compression processor and larger buffer, I may order one later. At least I have Magicjack and Voxox as backup lines for for my mobile phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23388115 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:12:08 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23384664 anon :
said by macman4hire See Profile :

Has anyone used this service »https://www.tk6000.com According to their website the total with shipping is $100.00 including the first 3 years of service. The service can renew for another year for $20.00. I wonder if this is Ymax company like MagicJack as the video style and wording resembles MagicJack ads.
This is way better than Majic Jack because Majic Jack you must have a computer to login to. NET TALK doesn't need the computer. It is a great deal and works awesome. The deal right now is so good because they are trying to get it out there! I totally recommend it! Can't go wrong on the deal! I got mine on www.tk6000.com. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23384664 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:45:45 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23325405 amigo_boy :
said by prestonlewis See Profile :

netTALK is not supporting BYOD either.

However, they have been known to let people bend the rules from time to time. Go over to the forums and IM or email Nick and ask him if he'll let you use the iPhone app with their service. Nick or other netTALK people might be interested in it.
From what I could gather, netTalk will face the same challenge MagicJack did. They apparently use possession of the dongle as proof of ownership. If they let people use their SIP credentials, they won't have any way to determine whether someone's sharing their service, or if they returned it to a retailer for a refund (if NT begins selling retail).

It sounded like they were a little more exposed to this problem than MagicJack. From what I read on the NT forum, you could connect multiple SIP devices (or, NT devices) and incoming calls would ring everywhere. You could place a call from any of them. I don't recall ever hearing that MJ operated like that.

They may not realize the potential problem until they begin selling retail. I think that's when MJ realized it.

I think the problem is that both NT and MJ sell time by the year. If you have a monthly subscription, it's easy to know when a customer stops paying. But, when the customer pays the full price for a year at a retail store, and can return the product for a full refund, you have no idea they discontinued service.

Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23325405 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:56 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23323999 prestonlewis :
said by DLance :

blah, blah, blah
Username: (on the box, hopefully is the one they need)
Password: ( hopefully is the same one thats also on the box)
Auth Username: ( Not sure what that is.)
Proxy Server:
Regustration Timeout:
Nat Detect: On/Off?
APNS: On/Off?

To the best of my knowledge, netTALK is not supporting anything like an iPhone app. The info on the box is for logging into your web account at netTALK, not for anything to do anywhere else.

netTALK is not supporting BYOD either.

However, they have been known to let people bend the rules from time to time. Go over to the forums and IM or email Nick and ask him if he'll let you use the iPhone app with their service. Nick or other netTALK people might be interested in it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23323999 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:28:16 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23312498 anon : Would anyone please care to give me a hand. i been driving myself crazy with the amount opf post i have read so far trying to set my tk600 on my iphone with the Isip applicastion. it looks like the information im entering is not correct.

Isip needs.
Domain:
Username: (on the box, hopefully is the one they need)
Password: ( hopefully is the same one thats also on the box)
Auth Username: ( Not sure what that is.)
Proxy Server:
Regustration Timeout:
Nat Detect: On/Off?
APNS: On/Off?

Please folks someone please give me a hang, i will be greatful otherwise this TK6000 going back cause its all i need it for and always on the roads and i can used it on my iphone when on the road. (i know u need wifi, but there are ways around it, wish i took care of already.
here the link to the iphone app i want to add tk6000.
»www.vnet-corp.com/iphone.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23312498 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:26:36 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309745 Solearth : I have had mine for 3 days now, and it is failing my tests so far. The signal is too choppy. For those who think my internet is at fault, my Future Nine calls just after the TK6000 calls are much "smother".
The choppiness seems as if they are trying to compress the signal for narrow bandwidth, with an internal processor that is too slow.
Lifetime service is one thing, but too many chops in the voice can lead to an early death.
It would be nice if I could use my own ATA device to test the New Talk service, independent of my purchased TK6000 device.

I admit that the sound coming in is OK. but I called my cell phone to check the outgoing voice, and that is where the failure lies. Especially compared to my other VOIP on the same router.

I will give it 3 more days to clear up (presumably after an update). ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309745 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:37 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307745 prestonlewis :
said by mike100 :

How come no one has compared this to ooma,
pros and cons wise.
Pro: netTALK is about 1/3 the price of Ooma
No other pros I can think of.

Con: Ooma reportedly has much better call quality and reliability.

netTALK is pretty much only viewed as an alternative to MagicJack.

Comparing netTALK with Ooma just hasn't seemed to be a logical thing to do. Ooma apparently has much better quality/reliability but it's price has always been difficult to overcome. After Sunrocket, no one trusts lifetime service from a VOIP provider. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307745 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:47:18 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 - acceptable http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307148 anon : I have used my newly purchased TK6000 for continuously 3 days. I plugged to my second router (modem - router/voip adapter - router - TK6000). I didn't configure anything as I don't know how. It's working fine. unlike my another voip phone (paying monthly fee) which is connected to the modem directly, I can hear a little bit of background noise if listening carefully. The voice got garbled for one or two seconds for every 5 or 10 minutes, but not for every call. Overall the sound quality is acceptable if it's not crystal clear. I just hope, they would have a manual for coaching an average person like to understand and set up this device conveniently.

By the way, the sound quality of the international call seems even better than the domestic call. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307148 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:46:02 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23299402 anon : Hi,

I listened to all talk here.
Just wondered, anybody knew or used here the ooma phone?

How come no one has compared this to ooma,
pros and cons wise.

I ma using ooma phone and it also plugs into router/cable box and qlty is lot better than magic jack.

Can someone please compare ooma v/s TK 6000?

Thanks.

»www.ooma.com/forums/

»www.ooma.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4048

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I did need assistance to get incoming calls set up at first.
I got the only 310 area code number available at the time.

The service hardly ever goes down and is quite reliable. There is however a major problem for me. During a call there are periods of 2-5 seconds when the incoming and outgoing voices get garbled. This happens randonly about every 10 minutes. It does not cut the line, but it does cause problems with the wife acceptance factor.

Other than that, it is great with very good sound quality - equal to a landline. I like the service and hope they fix this garble/stutter issue.

Also, I have not tried using any of the special features, only outgoing and some incoming.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297363 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:57:50 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289675 thunder15 : @prestonlewis
1) The 11 digit dialing is something I will have to get used to in the Chicago coming this week besides the Nettalk device. T-mobile sent me a notice that starting this week, the Chicago area will have another area code added to the existing 773 and 312 area codes. I will have to dial 1+area code+7digit even on my cellphone now. Like any change, its uncomfortable at the beginning. It's a minor inconvenience, but I am used to it now.

Although, I hope they can come up with a solution to show or add the "1" to the 10digit INCOMING numbers on the callerID so that I can save and call back without having to add the "1" to my phonebook.

2) I wish they work something out with the respected companies to get more numbers. I was lucky (and surprised that they have it so soon after I requested it) to grab the only 408 area code number last week!

PS: Some people reported that Nettalk is starting to show advertisements on TV now. I welcome competition to this market, as it forces others like MagicJack to keep on innovation and improve services to the user. I can't wait to see this product in retail stores.
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Even though I don't usually but extended warranties, I went ahead and paid $19.95 for a 5 year warranty. The promotion on the website was "lifetime service". if it is the lifetime of the device, then that is what the extra 4 dollars a year should cover.
Just like a previous poster that ordered one, but had not yet received it, if it does not preform with decent sound quality, and in a reliable manner, it goes back.
However, I am willing to give it a try. Hopefully, it will work reliably enough, and I will simply let my MJ service expire in December. I will use Google Voice for voicemail, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23288124 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:23:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23287018 prestonlewis : I had netTALK for a couple of months. Some issues early on that were resolved fairly quickly. Since then, very reliable incoming and outgoing phone calls.

I had my cell phone stolen at work and right now I'm pretty much using the netTALK phone as my only phone and it's working perfectly.

I don't use any email/voicemail so I haven't a clue how that's working.

Only 2 major annoyances for me:

1. 11 digit dialing is required
2. No phone numbers in my local area code. Got a phone number in an area code about 50 miles from my home (SF Bay Area area code)

Otherwise, it's about the same as a MJ in terms of quality and reliability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23287018 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:24:02 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23285431 thunder15 : I have been using this product now for more than two weeks. It's basically plug and play for me. Easy setup. Worked behind a Comcast business gateway (SMC) and a Smoothwall server. I will write a detailed review when I have some more time. The experience will change as the company continues to work on issues reported by customers (sort of a betta users) like me.

FYI: The device and service (lifetime as of this post) will ship for a few cents less than $100 if you make a one time payment (free shipping) instead of making 4 payments (no free shipping). It can take up to two weeks to receive the item from order to delivery.

They are still working out some issues, like getting more phone numbers (you can change/switch number several times for free at this time) and speeding up their shipping system. Overall, I am happy using this device and service without the need to have my computer on all the time. Check out Nettalk's forum if you want to see how other customers are experiencing.
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Thanks.

--------------------------------

Of course, in professional sports these days, too often the "pros" turn into "cons". :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23073222 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:29:20 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23073050 macman4hire : I read recently that calls are limited 90 mins.

Here is a link for an excellent review »www.magicjacksupport.com/anyone-···-75.html To find the review just scroll down to the last post on the page and look for the post by UPdownLoAD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23073050 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:48:37 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23072816 PX Eliezer : So is there anything new on the TK-6000 service?

Have not heard anything lately.

They are still advertising "lifetime" for about $ 110 including the shipping.

Anybody new try it out?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23072816 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:55:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23037594 anon :
said by macman4hire See Profile :

Has anyone used this service »https://www.tk6000.com
I came across this post while trouble shooting my newly bought tk6000. I had problems setting it up at work, but when I brought it home and plugged it into my home router, it worked perfectly. The sound quality was perfect. I think even better than magic jack simply because the tk6000 was not plugged into my computer so it was not competing for resources. Before now I was using the magic jack for about a year. I decided that I had to try the tk6000 because I had gotten pretty annoyed with MJ's interface popping up. Even with the program "magichide" there would still be a pop up caller id tab. This was unnecessary because my phone has caller id, and this caller id tab would pop up on top and kick whatever I was doing to the back. I think the tk6000 definitively resolved that problem. Though I highly recommend it, the tk6000 has two flaws that I didn't like. First, the initial setup (both the website login and the unit) needed more explaining. The website login is only required for inputting your address, but there are multiple tabs on the site that do not have explanations and do not pertain to the average user like myself. They are just unnecessary and confusing. Then there is the setup of the unit. It's suppose to be just plug n play. It didn't workout that way on my router at work. The problem is that once you've encountered a problem, there isn't a built in configuration emulator to try to trouble shoot your problem. Tech support was available by phone but was unable to fix the problem. My problem was then passed along to another part of tech support who took 3 days to reply. This other tech support then gave me three things to try, one of which was to try to connect it to a router on a different network, which seemed to work great. Now the second flaw that I didn't like too much about my new tk6000. The number assigned to my unit is in another city. Not a big deal, but requires a little explaining when I give this phone number out to friends and family. Overall I really like the tk6000, sound quality is great, call logs are online and can be printed. Most importantly, there are no annoying pop ups]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23037594 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:39:16 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23000654 PX Eliezer : Phone service over the internet ain't as easy as it looks.

VOIPo took a long time in beta but even after that they had major glitches.

Vonage has a huge technical staff and has been doing it for years.

The CallCentric guys live and breathe this stuff. I don't even think they get to go out on dates.

A mature service like ViaTalk still has its issues and still seems to recast its technology all the time.

So I am not surprised about the TK-6000.

Hopefully the TK-7400 will be an upspiff. That's a joke, folks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23000654 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:05:36 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23000594 PX Eliezer :
said by turboted48 See Profile :

I too am feed up with there service and explanations. I have yet to have a ticket answered since 8-10-09-and since that date with great persistence........
Are you surprised?

When phone service is sold with the same approach as ShamWow?

»https://www.shamwow.com/ver13/index.asp

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In fact, what an interesting name for THAT product. Sham. Wow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23000594 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:53:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23000463 turboted48 : I too am feed up with there service and explinations. I have yet to have a ticket answered since 8-10-09-and since that date with great persistance i have called tech support and have ask them the same question "when will Voice/email be up" the answer is always "buy the end of the week" It would be nice if there were honest and just said we don't know for sure we are still working on the software or something that make sense. Mine dials out most of the time but rarely does it ever ring or go thru when I call my own number from my home phone or cell phone.-very disapoonting product!

Ted]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23000463 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:21:33 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22999359 amigo_boy :
said by CubedRoot See Profile :

Dont think so, even the guys at Nettalk said they didnt care if you had 1 or 100 TK6000's on your network, and they all could be calling out at the same time.
Here's what I'm getting at:

I saw NetTalk's forum posting saying they sell multiple dongles (for one phone number) to allow multiple and simultaneous usage. Each dongle costs money and would serve as proof of purchase for the simultaneous usage.

But, it sounds like they let you buy one dongle, get your SIP credentials, and then use those credentials on multiple softphones and ATA devices?

That's a little different. Multiple, simultaneous uses without the revenue from selling multiple dongles (service contracts)?

I wonder if they really anticipated people using SIP credentials like this? Are we about to witness another MagicJack episode? :)

Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22999359 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:56:21 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22993985 CubedRoot : Dont think so, even the guys at Nettalk said they didnt care if you had 1 or 100 TK6000's on your network, and they all could be calling out at the same time. They even offer the ability to buy more than one TK6000 with the same programming as your original for multiple outgoing calls on same phone number.

SO, no different that habving a dual line ATA :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22993985 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:49:52 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22993840 amigo_boy :
said by CubedRoot See Profile :

To get the IP, you can simply monitor your network traffic on your TK6000's MAC and see where it goes to :) you should be able to figure the rest out.
Does anything prevent you from reusing the SIP credentials for multiple, simultaneous outbound calls? I.e., in the absence of requiring the tk6000 device as a "dongle" to prove purchase?

Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22993840 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:03:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22993068 anon : When they ship the TK6000, they provide a username and password on the card that it ships with. This is used to login to the asterisk based "user control panel", but it is also your SIP username and pass.
They also provide the MAC for the device on the same card, and its also labled on a sticker on the TK6000.

To get the IP, you can simply monitor your network traffic on your TK6000's MAC and see where it goes to :) you should be able to figure the rest out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22993068 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:34:35 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22992332 rameshb_v :
said by CubedRoot :

I have a TK6000 and it is working great for me.

And, if you know how, you can get it working on an ATA. I have my creds working nicely on my PAP2 :)
Please provide the SIP details ..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22992332 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:09:56 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22990528 anon : Can u share here step by step how you were able to get the Credentials from the product to use in the ATA. Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22990528 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:16:49 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22971223 N9MD :
said by turboted48 See Profile :

reply to N9MD

Hope yours is working ok...

Ted
Not I ... I do not have the NT service ... nor to I have even a faint interest in signing up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22971223 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:49:59 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22970708 anon : I have a TK6000 and it is working great for me.

And, if you know how, you can get it working on an ATA. I have my creds working nicely on my PAP2 :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22970708 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:15:54 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22958989 prestonlewis : The current pay $99 and get calls forever is not permanent. It's a promotion according to the forums at netTALK. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22958989 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:40:22 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22956197 turboted48 : Hope yours is working ok-after a terrible weekend and many trials, I found one of the problems with mine-the t-10 port on the tk6000 was intermittent and after using some contact cleaner and trying several cat-5 cables it seems to be considerably more reliable-now if they can get voice/e-mail up 1'll be happy-call waiting might be nice also-but just glad at this point i don't have to go reset it 6 times a day

Ted]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22956197 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:35:59 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949759 josephf : Agreed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949759 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:53:48 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949754 nitzan : Exactly - it's not OK - for anyone. It's false advertising - just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it OK. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949754 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:51:31 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949738 josephf :
said by nitzan See Profile :

Small print:

* unlimited is actually limited

Which provider's unlimited plan truly is unlimited? None? So it just isn't this provider... (Doesn't make it okay for anyone; but lets put it in perspective.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949738 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:40:06 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949720 nitzan : Small print:

* unlimited is actually limited
* forever is actually not forever

Never mind the small details....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949720 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:32:46 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949560 lstevens : Now their site is stating "free unlimited local and long distance calling forever!"!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22949560 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:32:58 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22946893 kkkccc : Did truConsumer
every get equipment & try service?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22946893 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:33:45 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22927290 PX Eliezer : My secretary is a smart lady but not too much into Voip.

Her son was asking about MJ and I showed her the MJ website. Then I showed her the NetTalk website also.

She was instantly taken aback and exclaimed "The pages look so much the same!"

Yeah, I know, I know, no connection.

So if there really is no connection, then let them establish their own image.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22927290 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:42:16 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22927074 nitzan : Let us know how easy (or hard) it is to cancel. I have my doubts...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22927074 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:08:21 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22926888 anon : I have to agree this product is not ready for retail. I received my TK6000 yesterday and none of the features advertised are readily available.

Worse the USB drivers trashed my system to the point I had to recover the OS.

Calls to tech support go to a broken mailbox.

Even without the advanced features I cannot even use the unit as a general phone line as it will not allow me to input # for conference calls.

I have opened a trouble ticket with them but many of these problems have been outstanding for more than a month on their board. I will be requesting my RMA shortly. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22926888 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:00:39 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22910497 PX Eliezer :
said by N9MD See Profile :

Wow ... what a dishonorable reputation NT will acquire, given the evidence that newpup most certainly is a NT shill!
I think we all figured it out a while back, based on his contradictory comments and general attitude.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22910497 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:34:19 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22910491 pandora :
said by N9MD See Profile :

Keep in mind that Net Talk has been seeking approval to operate as a CLEC in scores of states throughout the US ... meaning that, just like MagicJack/YMAX ... Net Talk intends to be all things to all people which, according to Abraham Lincoln, is tough to do: You can fool all of the people...] Googling reveals a host of pending Net Talk applications to Telecommunications/Public Utility Commissions throughout the US.
Your post is representative of a problem with this board generally ... anytime something innovative and different rolls along ... just about every pundit on this forum suffers what I consider "post sunrocket stress syndrome" which is a variant of PTSD.

Obviously this is a company preparing to go nationwide with a new and innovative product. It plans to be a national CLEC. It's ducks don't currently seem all in a row at this time. As with most companies it doesn't broadcast it's entire business plan, provide blueprints, engineering diagrams and copies of its proprietary software. Somehow failure to provide all these things is taken as a hostile act by many VOIP tech forum pundits.

I wish you guys would calm down a bit. Lets see what happens. This may be interesting, it may bomb, at least it'll be a worthwhile experience for us all.

IMO what bothers many is the relatively high up-front charge, and the long term "free" service which supposedly will follow. I counted less than 2 dozen posts before Ponzi was used in this thread.

Guys, take it easy. Not every new innovation is Sunrocket II, not every company is creating a Ponzi scheme.
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said by Pascagoula :

Be sure to tell them you think nettalk is a Ponzi scheme because you do not believe $100 can buy 3 year's of service.
ROFL.
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said by newpup See Profile :

yes I purchased One. Received in about 3 days. I just plugged the device it into my router and plugged the phone into the device. works fine so far.
Can we ban anonymous posters who practice to deceive ... blatantly?! :mad:

The above referenced post near the beginning of this thread was painfully misleading. The posting date was July 27, 2009 ... yet all online info at the NANPA site and the localcallingguide.com website indicates that the only rate center assigned to Net Talk --- 786-289-xxxx in North Dade FL --- will not be activated until tomorrow August 23!!

Wow ... what a dishonorable reputation NT will acquire, given the evidence that newpup most certainly is a NT shill!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22910435 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:43 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22898868 Ron R :
quote:
MJ is a reseller of another voip carrier: FALSE


Sorry I meant Vonage, not magicJack.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22898868 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:58:59 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22895953 prestonlewis : MJ is a reseller of another voip carrier: FALSE

If you really want to know what TK6000/netTALK is all about, you should research "Interlink Global" and "Anastasios Kyriakides". Kyriakides is CEO of netTALK and was CEO of now defunct Interlink Global. Interlink Global, founded in 2002, had a lot of VOIP/telecommunications history you can read about on the net. Apparently, TK6000/netTALK was/is simply an extension/expansion of what they already did with a new device.

The link below provides pretty up to date info about netTALK.com, it's previous life as Interlink Global, and it's current finances and plans:

»biz.yahoo.com/e/090731/138382510-q.html

Apparently, Interlink Global's creditors seized it's assets which were then sold to an advertising company that took the name of one of Interlink's subsidiaries, netTALK, and is proceeding with Interlink's plan to promote the TK6000. Interesting story and interesting reading.

Tons of reading here: »www.secinfo.com/d14D5a.s3F9j.htm#5gul

History of the company, who they contract with to make the TK6000, their plans to begin serious marketing of their product in the next month, they are a CLEC in 25 states, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22895953 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:21:34 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882337 Ron R : Hey guys, I found this topic in a Google search and thought I might answer a few of your questions:

1. netTALK has nothing to do with magicJack. Nothing at all. The company may be from the same geographic location, but the similarities end there - magicJack is a reseller of another VOIP carrier, netTALK owns 100% of its own equipment and is a true CLEC.

2. The company itself was incorporated a few years ago and is about to be a public company - it's being accomplished through a reverse merger (that's the Discover Screens connection). The product has been in development for some time.

3. The TK6000 is a true SIP device, so the service is more like Vonage than magicJack. magicJack is simply a cheap audio device that works with a soft phone. With netTALK there is NO SOFTWARE to install on your PC - you just plug it into your Ethernet port and start dialing. You can use it through the USB port like magicJack if you don't have a spare ethernet port, but there is still no software to install, it detects as a network device, bridges the connection to your existing network card, and gets to the Internet to make the calls through there.

4. The website is relatively new, an infomercial is being tested right now. I don't particularly care for the direct response model but whatever.

5. The $99 price is for the device, not the service - the local & long distance service for 3 years just happens to be included at no charge. Remember, this is a public company but if that doesn't quell any concerns of whether or not they'll be around or not just keep in mind that this is not proprietary software - it's a true SIP device that uses standard VOIP protocols, so it could technically be configured to work with pretty much any VOIP carrier.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882337 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:37:33 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882039 anon : I bought one then returned it. I have filed a complaint on the FCC about NetTalk and their TK6000. The product is a barebones device that does not even support half of the features listed right on the box and on the website.

-No Voicemail (much less voice email)
-No Conference Calling
-No Call Waiting
-A place to input speed dial contacts, but no way to use the speed dial
-I hope you don't mind geting a personal number that is "near" your area code. Only a few states away, but hey, it's in the same country.

-The tech team has no timeline as to when the above features will be added to the TK6000.

I would wait a long time before buying one. Wait until a retail store is willing to risk buying one. At least you will not have to wait two weeks to get one and another two weeks to get your money back. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22882039 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:35:07 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22880856 anon : How do I get tk6000's sip info?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22880856 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:37:04 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22873555 anon : For those of you looking for reviews of this product, there are some available from the Magicjack Unofficial Forum.

»www.magicjacksupport.com/anyone-···e7449594

Hope this helps, also people are posting some reviews (good and bad) on the NetTALK official forum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22873555 Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:18:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 - Nothing more than a proprietary ATA box http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22851227 NewUser : Forgive me for noticing, but it seems nothing more than a proprietary ATA box.

I've read the PAP2T can Direct Dial IP addresses too, so using something with it, like Asterisk FreePBX, one could do the very same thing, if you purchased a bunch of DIDs...!

or something FREE, like ...

--> start your own phone service... Free InterNET InterCOM,
not even needing any VoIP provider, unless you need to call an outdated Land Line. :D

I'm wondering if it's time to start this between everyone with Broadband Internet and their own ATA.

Not just Intra-Office of the router IP base, but over the full Internet ... world wide.

If the PAP2T can Directly Dial an IP address, you wouldn't even need the computer, much like this tk6000, and could put the IP to call into "speed-dialing" of the PAP2T.

Does anyone know the exact method to entering the address, and how to setup the router/ATA?

This could be our own competition to the VoIP industry, showing them we may not even need them in the near future.!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22851227 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:07:07 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22849178 anon : If any regulars have bought one of these, please post a review.

TIA]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22849178 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:04:51 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22814551 anon : Magic Jack/ymax is located in West Palm Beach. 2 addresses I found were: 223 Sunset Avenue, Suite 223, Palm Beach, FL 33480 and P.O. Box 6846, West Palm Beach, FL. (Bernie's backyard?). Cust. Service confirmed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22814551 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:05:04 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22813657 anon : I wonder if this company is somehow related to Tiger Direct. The reason being that at the very bottom of their page, it mentions "As Seen On TV", and I've read some time ago they were owned by Tiger Direct. Don't know for sure, hope not though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22813657 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:52:37 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22812535 dJON : FYI Florida DOS has a direct URL »sunbiz.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22812535 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:40:26 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22812167 quatrix :
said by B See Profile :

Everyone can "remember" how to "keep this pair straight" by... knowing what the damn words mean! Their meanings aren't even close to one another, so mistaking one for the other should be no more likely than mistaking "brake" for "break" or "past" for "passed". In other words, if you're that stupid or careless there's no hope. :)
Exactly. People who need to memorize goofy rules to spell simple words lack a firm grasp of the language and won't ever get one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22812167 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:32:58 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22804190 N9MD :
said by truConsumer :

I ordered it. When it arrives, I'll try it out immediately...and if it doesn't work better than MJ, I will return it quickly... If anyone on this forum is interested in how TK6000 performs for avg consumer, I will gladly post my experience. Just please let me know you are interested.
This thread is now 6 days old (opened July 27) and the only poster who reported experience with NewTalk's product --- until truConsumer posted his/her intentions --- was an anonymous individual who appeared out of nowhere on the same day (July 27). Nobody else in this very popular BBR Forum has posted any experience with NT.

I, for one, will be most curious to read truConsumer's upcoming post upon receiving the NT device and initiating service. I would ask that truConsumer confirm our suspicions that the only phone numbers (DIDs) available from NT at this point begin with 786-289-xxxx in the Miami area rate center.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22804190 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:23:52 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22803831 Sterlingo : This string has gone Seinfeld -- it's become a topic about nothing. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22803831 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:41:33 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22803811 nitzan : I wonder if it's really easy (cheap) to get CLEC status in FL or something. There seem to be a LOT of small operators there. I guess so far it's the only place where MagicJack 2.0 managed to get CLEC status? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22803811 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:36:24 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22803758 WhatNow : If the company is registered in Fl they have to register with the state and list the principals. It is not always easy to navigate but you can. It is under the FL Secretary of State, Department of State, Division of Corporation, Sunbiz.org

This may be the search you guys were referring to at the beginning of the thread. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22803758 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:19:44 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22792005 N9MD :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

Looks like that's the only new NPA-NXX they have set up in 2009.
Keep in mind that Net Talk has been seeking approval to operate as a CLEC in scores of states throughout the US ... meaning that, just like MagicJack/YMAX ... Net Talk intends to be all things to all people which, according to Abraham Lincoln, is tough to do: You can fool all of the people...] Googling reveals a host of pending Net Talk applications to Telecommunications/Public Utility Commissions throughout the US.

So, if NT as a VoIP provider plans to supply DIDs from their self-owned CLEC pool, one would expect a wider range of choices of rate centers ... but a search of my favored site for DID research, »www.localcallingguide.com/, shows that NW (the CLEC) currently only has a single 10,000 number block rate center (North Dade FL) ... 786-289-0000 thru 786-289-9999.

This is discerned from LocalCallingGuide's main page by clicking on "telco", typing "Net Talk" into the Company Name box, and hitting ENTER. Sure enough, only one Rate Center.

To confirm accuracy, try entering "YMAX" as the telco ... and three pages of YMAX OCNs appear!

Now, to be fair, many start-up providers have opened their doors with a limited number of rate centers: Future-Nine, Voxoxoxoxoxox, SipGate ... to name the ones I can think of at the moment. F9 initially offered only an Ohio rate center (IIRC) ... but, true to its promise, DID availability was rapidly expanded in short order.

The lack of response to those legitimate questions posed by prior posters is certainly problematic. It suggests either that Net Talk has been premature in beginning marketing efforts -- or -- Net Talk is just another fly by night operation such as the now defunct provider that operated out of UPS store in Boca Raton FL.

I know that RockyBB is distrusting of any company based in Las Vegas NV ... but I'm starting to feel that way about SouthEast FL offerings. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22792005 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:45:47 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791824 voipjunk : I asked few basic questions on their forum and got these answers.

Questions:-
Can somebody give more insight on
1) Codec
2) Number porting
3) Area codes available
4) Caller ID (just number or with name)
5) Warranty on device
6) replacement cost (If device is lost or broken)
7) International calling / rates
8) Change of number in future

Answers from Nick, site admin

@VJ thanks for good luck wishes! We are working very hard to make our service as feature rich as possible. At the moment:
-We utilize G711 as much as possible for the best call quality
-We are not porting numbers but it will be available (on a rolling schedule) in the future for a fee
-We are expanding our footprint but have a limited number of area codes so we can't guarantee every area code at the moment (working on it )
-Caller ID # is included
-Comes with a 1 year warranty and possible to purchase a 2 year extended for $19.95.
-We don't have a service to honor replacement/lost TK6000's
-We will be publishing our Int'l Rates to the public in the near future (they are very competitive rates) but they are available in your user account.
-We are allowing new customers to change their number (limited time only) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791824 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:06:56 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791443 PX Eliezer :
said by Stewart See Profile :

I called nettalk.com support with three simple pre-sales questions:
How can I get a list of available area codes and cities?
How can I get a copy of your terms of service?
How can I get a list of your international rates?
Sounds like pretty basic stuff for anyone in the marketplace.

said by Stewart See Profile :

I called the contact number; it's answered by voicemail and identifies as Interlink Global. That domain has the same whois info, though their Web site is not working.
One of their former affiliated corporate names, as pointed out by N9MD.

said by Stewart See Profile :

I could only find one NPA-NXX for nettalk, in FL:
»www.telcodata.us/telcodata/compa···state=FL
Looks like that's the only new NPA-NXX they have set up in 2009.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791443 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:33:33 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791351 Stewart : I called nettalk.com support with three simple pre-sales questions:
How can I get a list of available area codes and cities?
How can I get a copy of your terms of service?
How can I get a list of your international rates?

The agent gave me BS answers to all three. I asked to speak with his supervisor and he connected me to the support manager. The manager did not provide any answers, but took my number and promised to call back. He didn't. I called again, this time trying sales, but was referred to customer service. There, I was told that I needed to speak with a "product specialist". That person provided no answers, either, but offered to send me the three documents by email. I have yet to receive anything.

I noticed that when you click on the Login to Account link on the tk6000 site, you are taken to another domain, which is not privately registered. »whois.domaintools.com/nettalktelecom.com

I called the contact number; it's answered by voicemail and identifies as Interlink Global. That domain has the same whois info, though their Web site is not working.

I could only find one NPA-NXX for nettalk, in FL:
»www.telcodata.us/telcodata/compa···state=FL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791351 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:09:04 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791203 PX Eliezer : I think that lots of folks would be interested. Please do post your experiences with it.

You can also plug the phone number into »tnid.org/ to see who the current carrier is. That may be interesting as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22791203 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:39:17 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22790431 anon : I currently use MajicJack(MJ). It has saved me a lot of $$$ so far. It generally works fine..except the beeps(pushing phone buttons noises) that the person on the other end hears. Due to that, I ordered netTalk's TK6000 a few days ago hoping it will be better than MJ. I did look 4 consumer reviews after viewing the TK6000 infomercial...but b4 ordering & found none. It offers 3 pmts & $ back guarantee so I ordered it. When it arrives, I'll try it out immediately...and if it doesn't work better than MJ, I will return it quickly. My credit card co will not let them charge additional pmts and will credit my acct if the company turns out to be unwilling to refund my money. If anyone on this forum is interested in how TK6000 performs for avg consumer, I will gladly post my experience. Just please let me know you are interested.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22790431 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:10:38 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22788288 PX Eliezer :
said by B See Profile :

Gastrula would make a great horror movie. Or band name.

-- B
A gastric band?!
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22788288 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:48:28 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22788190 B : Gastrula would make a great horror movie. Or band name.

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22788190 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:20:47 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22788154 N9MD :
said by Blastocyte :

That wasn't written by me - I'm practically nothing. I was quoting from the nettalk site, forum.nettalk.com.
Blastocyte --- an undifferentiated embryonic cell --- Thanks for pointing out the info in the NT forum.

"I'm practically nothing."
I expect that once you migrate from your undifferentiated embryonic cell status --- which, incidentally, is the stage that produces "morning sickness" in pregnant women --- to a Gastrula, your self-esteem will improve ... and you will contribute mightily to the BBR Forums. ;) :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22788154 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:11:55 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22787828 anon :
said by N9MD See Profile :

My "research" supports your response ... and your post makes perfect sense. If you would like to tell us a bit more about NetTalk ... once we all stop our sniping ... I suspect that many of us might take a sincere interest in the product and service.

So, once again, thank you and welcome to the BBR Forums.
That wasn't written by me - I'm practically nothing. I was quoting from the nettalk site, forum.nettalk.com.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22787828 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:21:54 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22786788 N9MD :
said by Blastocyte :

Re: Connection Between YMax, Majicjack and netTalk?
There is no connection between netTALK, YMax or Majicjack. The document you have linked was used for the "Registration of NET TALK.COM, INC. as a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier" in SD as so it is titled, I can also say it is customary for similar documents to be reprinted to save time by different companies as it involves very similar negotiations with the state.
Thank you, Blastocyte --- an undifferentiated embryonic cell.

My "research" supports your response ... and your post makes perfect sense. If you would like to tell us a bit more about NetTalk ... once we all stop our sniping ... I suspect that many of us might take a sincere interest in the product and service.

It's just that certain nuances and phrases used in posts by newcomers tend to trigger disbelieving responses in the face of suspected trolling ... especially when the more well-versed VoIP-knowledgeable BBR members are challenged (or insulted).

So, once again, thank you and welcome to the BBR Forums.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22786788 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:35:07 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785888 anon :
said by garys_2k See Profile :

I did ask on the netTalk forum if there are any corporate connections »forum.nettalk.com/viewforum.php?f=18

I see three ways that my post will be addressed: answered, ignored or deleted. I think the third is most likely.
Nope. Answered is the answer:

Re: Connection Between YMax, Majicjack and netTalk?
There is no connection between netTALK, YMax or Majicjack. The document you have linked was used for the "Registration of NET TALK.COM, INC. as a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier" in SD as so it is titled, I can also say it is customary for similar documents to be reprinted to save time by different companies as it involves very similar negotiations with the state. YMax was simply typo that was made in the document. I must say very nice eye in catching that mistake]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785888 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:21:59 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785655 garys_2k : I did ask on the netTalk forum if there are any corporate connections »forum.nettalk.com/viewforum.php?f=18

I see three ways that my post will be addressed: answered, ignored or deleted. I think the third is most likely.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785655 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:29:55 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785554 N9MD :
said by ptrowski See Profile :

Hmm, I thought it originally said it was in telecom.
Initial Research Results for NetTalk

InterLink Global Corp name changed to NetTalk.com effective 12/31/2009 (O-T-C “ILKG.PK” on Pink Sheets)

InterLink Global Corp:
6205 Blue Lagoon Drive, Suite 110, Miami FL 33126
Tel. 305-261-2007

Nettalk:
1100 NW 163rd Drive
North Miami Beach FL 33169
Tel. 305-621-1200

Anastasios Kyriakides (President & CEO of Nettalk and Owner of Regency Cruise Lines and “Start-up Tycoon”)
Kenneth Hosfeld (Exec.VP and Director of Sales)
Guillermo Rodriguez (CFO)
Leo Manzewitsch (CTO)
Richard Diamond (Board of Directors)
Ronald Rule (Major Share Holder)

I have found no connections among the Nettalk principals with Dan Borislow of YMAX/MagicJack.

Check out the Verizon/YMAX/NetTalk connection in Docket 090382-TP here: »www.psc.state.fl.us/dockets/cms/···dBetween

Note specifically sub-paragraph “A” paragraph “1” stating “Nettalk shall be substituted in place of YMAX in the Terms wherever appropriate”
»documents.dps.state.ny.us/public···D749A%7D

Denial of NT’s application: »www.state.ia.us/iub/docs/orders/···0813.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785554 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:08:50 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785390 nitzan : Funny thing is - the ONLY people who would know that (it is standard practice for CLECs to opt-in to existing interconnection agreements) are those who've had to research this aspect for.... becoming a CLEC. A "plain" consumer would not know this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785390 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:35:18 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785242 ptrowski :
said by B See Profile :

said by newpup See Profile :

I am just a consumer like anyone else. Not paid. Non-profit consumer rights group. I am not plugging this product just stating I have had a good experience with it and others like it.
You're not paid, but it's your "job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs" ?? So you work for free?

You're not being honest, and you're specifically refusing to answer our requests that you provide more detail about your "good experience" with this new product, so that we can add some more meat to this discussion.

Saying "but it's good!" doesn't contribute anything.

-- B
Hmm, I thought it originally said it was in telecom.
"I work in telecom. It is standard practice for CLEC's to Opt-in to existing Interconnection Agreements...."

Now they are just a consumer? Popcorn anyone?
--
"So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? »www.venganza.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785242 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:59:09 EDT Re: chuckle -> guffaw -> snort http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785169 B : I guess... but it really does seem like a cool product, hardware-wise. I'd love to hear actual reviews or, even better, that the ATA is available for other uses.

By the way, "snort" doesn't cover the sustained chuckling between my glottis and nose. :)

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785169 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:43:06 EDT Re: chuckle -> guffaw -> snort http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785137 N9MD :
said by B See Profile :

Is there an Internet acronym for "chuckling out loud but stifling it through one's nose so as not to attract attention"?
I believe "snort" applies.

Meanwhile, now that we have put to rest the legitimacy or lack thereof for netTalk tk 6000000000000000000000000000000 --- maybe it is time to lock this thread, but leave the comments to date for all to see when doing a Google or Yahoo or Bing search in the future.

EDIT: I just remembered that the acronym is COLBSITONSANTAA. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785137 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:34:54 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785111 B : Is there an Internet acronym for "chuckling out loud but stifling it through one's nose so as not to attract attention"?

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785111 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:30:12 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785096 N9MD :
said by B See Profile :

A telecom consumer rights group? I guess that could exist...

-- B
B ... your spelling is just as bad as luckypup's ... er-r-r newpup's. [Lucky Pup was a dog-puppet from an early daytime kids' TV show in the late 1940s.]

I believe the reference was to "a telecom consumer rites group", part of a fundamentalist anti-VoIP cult that practices ancient VoodooVoip rituals. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785096 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:27:14 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785061 B :
You mess with DSLR's awesome PageRank, you get the horns.

This thread is currently the first, fourth, and sixth Google hit for "nettalk tk6000" (without quotes).

Mission accomplished?

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785061 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:20:03 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785032 N9MD :
said by newpup See Profile :

... it is my job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs....

Research is more than performing searches on Google.
Wow, are you off base with your comments, newpup! Your are dealing with folks in this Forum (not a blog) many of whom have been members for years ... and have explored and researched and discussed all of the facets of VoIP and associated telecommunications technologies. These Forums include many executives and top technical people who own and operate some of the well known VoIP companies. We have learned from them and they have learned from us.

We (and our moderators who "police" these threads) have been able to confirm the sincerity of some posters and we can ferret out those who try to mislead and deceive.

newpup, your initial post in this thread was reasonable. Your subsequent overreaction to rather legitimate information that was brought out about this never before referenced provider was at first defensive (usually a tip-off of things to come) ... and your follow-up comments certainly reminded me of two quotations from Hamlet:
• The (lady) doth protest too much, methinks!
• Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Are you from Copenhagen, perchance?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22785032 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:13:40 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22784964 B : Ya gotta love the Doc. :)

Hey I missed newpup's first post... Fascinating person.

I work in telecom. It is standard practice for CLEC's to Opt-in to existing Interconnection Agreements...

I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX....

it is my job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs.

I am just a consumer like anyone else. Not paid. Non-profit consumer rights group.
Fascinating. As a PR person, that would be massive failure. Ditto for an attempt at astroturfing. The only successful interpretation is minor trolling.

A telecom consumer rights group? I guess that could exist...

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22784964 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:59:32 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22784926 N9MD :
said by newpup See Profile :

yes I purchased One. Received in about 3 days. I just plugged the device it into my router and plugged the phone into the device. works fine so far.
newpup, if you post the first 7 digits of your NetTalk phone number (###-###-#xxx), we can determine the CLEC that controls that number ... and if it is indeed a YMAX number, we can be assured that NetTalk is very very closely connected to MagicJack ... since YMAX is a CLEC that owns MJ and provides DIDs only to MJ.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22784926 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:50:26 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783853 anon : Nettalk has a forum: »forum.nettalk.com/

Maybe some of you skeptics can go over there and confront them with the evidence for your suspicions:

Unregistered domain
Located in Miami
Possible contamination from magicjack
'Two Big Scam Red Flags'
Possible shill in the dslreports forum

Be sure to tell them you think nettalk is a Ponzi scheme because you do not believe $100 can buy 3 year's of service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783853 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:55:42 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783683 anon :
said by newpup See Profile :

have any of you knuckle heads tried the product. I have and I have no complaints. I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX. You people belong on craigslist where you can play spell check police instead of on a technology blog.
I wasn't slamming you or nettalk. My comments were meant as a joke along the off-topic line the thread had taken.

If nettalk turns out to sound decent and be reliable, it should be a winner.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783683 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:31:10 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783736 B :
said by newpup See Profile :

I am just a consumer like anyone else. Not paid. Non-profit consumer rights group. I am not plugging this product just stating I have had a good experience with it and others like it.
You're not paid, but it's your "job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs" ?? So you work for free?

You're not being honest, and you're specifically refusing to answer our requests that you provide more detail about your "good experience" with this new product, so that we can add some more meat to this discussion.

Saying "but it's good!" doesn't contribute anything.

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783736 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:25:17 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783632 macman4hire : I personally enjoy the atmosphere of this forum. I would also highly encourage any who posts to add their humorous observations as long as long as their intent is not to cause harm or emotional distress to any other forum member. PX has been forum member for a long time, who I have found to be very knowledgeable and entertaining. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783632 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:07:11 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783570 newpup :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

said by newpup See Profile :

it is my job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs.
So then you are not a consumer like the rest of us? You are paid by someone? And are you paid to be a neutral observer or to push the product?

If you are supposed to be neutral, then don't post here.

If you are paid to push a product, then please disclose it.

said by newpup See Profile :

it annoys me when people get on a tangent about spelling, make unqualified assumptions without ever trying the product. If someone purchases a new product and provides a firsthand account of their experience (good or bad) then I have no issues. But when chuckle heads start postulating and flaming just to make themselves feel better than I do have an issue.
I am annoyed at your annoyance.

Moreover, no one here has been flaming except you.

By the way, the word is "faring". Sorry, I am a knucklehead.

said by newpup See Profile :

Research is more than performing searches on Google.
Indeed. So we would all benefit from any additional information that you can provide.
I am just a consumer like anyone else. Not paid. Non-profit consumer rights group. I am not plugging this product just stating I have had a good experience with it and others like it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783570 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:53:43 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783542 PX Eliezer :
said by newpup See Profile :

it is my job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs.
So then you are not a consumer like the rest of us? You are paid by someone? And are you paid to be a neutral observer or to push the product?

If you are supposed to be neutral, then don't post here.

If you are paid to push a product, then please disclose it.

said by newpup See Profile :

it annoys me when people get on a tangent about spelling, make unqualified assumptions without ever trying the product. If someone purchases a new product and provides a firsthand account of their experience (good or bad) then I have no issues. But when chuckle heads start postulating and flaming just to make themselves feel better than I do have an issue.
I am annoyed at your annoyance.

Moreover, no one here has been flaming except you.

By the way, the word is "faring". Sorry, I am a knucklehead.

said by newpup See Profile :

Research is more than performing searches on Google.
Indeed. So we would all benefit from any additional information that you can provide.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783542 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:49:00 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783529 ropeguru :
said by newpup See Profile :

have any of you knuckle heads tried the product. I have and I have no complaints. I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX. You people belong on craigslist where you can play spell check police instead of on a technology blog.
I think you need to go back to the dictionary and get your terms straight before you start bashing people. Last time I checked, this was NOT a blog.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783529 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:47:51 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783463 newpup :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

said by newpup See Profile :

have any of you knuckle heads tried the product. I have and I have no complaints. I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX. You people belong on craigslist where you can play spell check police instead of on a technology blog.
In addition, if you read all the posts in this thread, you will see that the particular discussions about [principle vs. principal] and [weary vs. wary] related to the proper use of the English language.

When Stewart said "In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles" he was demonstrating the proper usage of those two words in a very clever and humorous way. My understanding is that he was not speaking about your friends at all.

When plunging into a forum as a newcomer, it is important to understand the milieu and the atmosphere.

To make an analogy to different types of church services---

This is not a forum where we quietly sit and listen to organ music.

Rather, it is a forum where we jump, dance, sing, shout, and smile.

As you said, maybe we are knuckleheads. Maybe you'd be happier over with the peace and quiet (and boredom) over at Voxilla.

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PS: I am curious as well how you "researched" this company, especially when you scoff at us for trying to do the same thing.


it is my job to research new technology companies, evaluate their product and see how they are fairing on the blogs.

it annoys me when people get on a tangent about spelling, make unqualified assumptions without ever trying the product. If someone purchases a new product and provides a firsthand account of their experience (good or bad) then I have no issues. But when chuckle heads start postulating and flaming just to make themselves feel better than I do have an issue.

Research is more than performing searches on Google. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783463 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:38:02 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783435 PX Eliezer :
said by newpup See Profile :

have any of you knuckle heads tried the product. I have and I have no complaints. I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX. You people belong on craigslist where you can play spell check police instead of on a technology blog.
In addition, if you read all the posts in this thread, you will see that the particular discussions about [principle vs. principal] and [weary vs. wary] related to the proper use of the English language.

When Stewart said "In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles" he was demonstrating the proper usage of those two words in a very clever and humorous way. My understanding is that he was not speaking about your friends at all.

When plunging into a forum as a newcomer, it is important to understand the milieu and the atmosphere.

To make an analogy to different types of church services---

This is not a forum where we quietly sit and listen to organ music.

Rather, it is a forum where we jump, dance, sing, shout, and smile.

As you said, maybe we are knuckleheads. Maybe you'd be happier with the peace and quiet (and boredom) over at Voxilla.

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PS: I am curious as well how you "researched" this company, especially when you scoff at us for trying to do the same thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783435 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:32:16 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783308 B :
said by newpup See Profile :

have any of you knuckle heads tried the product. I have and I have no complaints. I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX. You people belong on craigslist where you can play spell check police instead of on a technology blog.
Really? And you just registered to say that?

By the way, how did you come across a service that's existed for just over a month? And how did you research them, and what did you find? Perhaps you can provide a mini-review since you're the only one here who's used it.

I think it's always a bad sign when a company hides behind "private registration" for their own domain name:

Registrant:
Nettalk.com, Inc
ATTN: TK6000.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA20172-0447

Domain Name: TK6000.COM


Administrative Contact :
Nettalk.com, Inc
gx6xq7hk7vt@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: TK6000.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Technical Contact :
Nettalk.com, Inc
gx6xq7hk7vt@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: TK6000.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Record expires on 10-Dec-2011
Record created on 17-Jun-2009
Database last updated on 17-Jun-2009

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS1.ASSEENONTVNETWORK.NET 69.5.65.11
NS2.ASSEENONTVNETWORK.NET
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783308 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:08:55 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783189 newpup :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

said by Stewart See Profile :

In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles.
said by Pascagoula :

I am wary of them and weary of their shills. Please do not infer that I am implying anything derogatory about the majority of vosps.
Gosh I love you guys. :)
have any of you knuckle heads tried the product. I have and I have no complaints. I researched the company and I can tell you they have nothing to do with MJ/YMAX. You people belong on craigslist where you can play spell check police instead of on a technology blog.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22783189 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:50:43 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22778443 PX Eliezer :
said by Stewart See Profile :

In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles.
said by Pascagoula :

I am wary of them and weary of their shills. Please do not infer that I am implying anything derogatory about the majority of vosps.
Gosh I love you guys. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22778443 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:48:27 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22778384 PX Eliezer :
said by B See Profile :

I'm saying the right way to honor that distinction isn't by memorizing silly mnemonics, but by memorizing the meaning of the words one is choosing to use...

-- B
Agreed. :)

Well said.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22778384 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:40:08 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777838 az1324 :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

Looks like they just got their current website last month.

But the company was incorporated in Florida a few years ago, and changed its name from Discover Screens.

They have been applying for CLEC licenses in various states.

And here's something interesting:

»www.flpsc.com/library/filings/09···4-09.pdf

Looks like they are asking the Florida authorities to approve this change:

An interconnection agreement between Verizon and YMax (MagicJack) now exists. NetTalk will adopt the same agreement with Verizon as well.

They are also doing this in other states.

Interesting that they are based in Miami, same town as MagicJack/YMax.

MUCH MORE INFO:

»investing.businessweek.com/resea···52892952

Includes this:

Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced delayed 10-Q filing-----
On 06/30/2009, Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced that they will be unable to file their next 10-Q by the deadline required by the SEC.

Net Talk.Com, Inc. Auditor Raises 'Going Concern' Doubt----
Net Talk.Com, Inc. filed its Annual on February 09, 2009 for the period ending September 30, 2008. In this report its auditor, KBL LLP, gave an unqualified opinion expressing doubt that the company can continue as a going concern.
Interesting catch on the document.

It seems more likely to me that they just copied it and were sloppy but also there could be some SJLabs former engineers involved here since the device is so similar. Overall, it seems a little more amateurish than MagicJack at least on the surface level.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777838 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:03:14 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777432 anon :
said by Stewart See Profile :

In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles.
I am wary of them and weary of their shills. Please do not infer that I am implying anything derogatory about the majority of vosps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777432 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:57:19 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777423 B : ....and we're done here!

-- B]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777423 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:54:40 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777400 Stewart : In too many VoIP companies, the principals have no principles.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777400 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:49:24 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777312 ropeguru :
said by PX Eliezer See Profile :

But the company was incorporated in Florida a few years ago, and changed its name from Discover Screens.

Interesting that they are based in Miami, same town as MagicJack/YMax.

Two big scam red flags... Only thing that would make it worse than Miami is if they were in Boca or Ft. Lauderdale. This area seems to be a hot bed for scams and spam..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777312 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:34:40 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777273 B : Err, ironically for two people patting their own backs for being precise with language, I'm not sure where we disagree.

I'm not contradicting anything you've said. My only issue was with the rather ponderous and questionable "substitute main or rule" technique of trying to keep straight the distinction between the words "principal" and "principle".

I'm saying the right way to honor that distinction isn't by memorizing silly mnemonics, but by memorizing the meaning of the words one is choosing to use...

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777273 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:26:26 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777192 PX Eliezer :
said by B See Profile :

Nah! Even 30 years ago that would have been a stupid, unrealistic, and excessively obscure rule. I suspect it was made up by patronizing grammarians with too much time on their hands.

Everyone can "remember" how to "keep this pair straight" by... knowing what the damn words mean!
I respectfully disagree.

As I said, we all make errors in daily usage, but to see basic errors in legal documents, and in articles in major newspapers, is indicative of the slow death of the language.

This carelessness has already resulted in loss of the rather different meanings of "infer" and "imply".

The process is currently occurring with regard to "wary" and "weary".

Language evolves. Telefacsimile became telefax and then simply fax. (Moderator: That's our VoIP connection :))

However, in that case, there was no loss of precision or clarity.

I agree with the following comment which was recently posted on a site (not "sight") related to education in Ireland:

"...Sometimes I cringe when I see that the best paid teachers in Europe write "to" when they mean "too"; "their" when they mean "there" and vice versa; "click" when they mean "clique" and so on.

To me, that doesn't seem like someone's typing in a hurry and doesn't bother dotting the i's and crossing the t's. That seems like many teachers don't know the difference, and that's both worrying and embarrassing..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22777192 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:16:20 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22776945 newpup : I work in telecom. It is standard practice for CLEC's to Opt-in to existing Interconnection Agreements. YMAX did the same, So did many other Telephone companies. It is faster opting into an existing negotiated agreement between the Local Exchange then having to start from scratch. MY 2 cents!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22776945 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:22:56 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22776896 reho33 : Not much information about porting, international rates, etc? Is it an "ATA"?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22776896 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:10:42 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22776837 B : Nah! Even 30 years ago that would have been a stupid, unrealistic, and excessively obscure rule. I suspect it was made up by patronizing grammarians with too much time on their hands.

Everyone can "remember" how to "keep this pair straight" by... knowing what the damn words mean! Their meanings aren't even close to one another, so mistaking one for the other should be no more likely than mistaking "brake" for "break" or "past" for "passed". In other words, if you're that stupid or careless there's no hope. :)

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22776837 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:58:19 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775640 PX Eliezer : It is also disheartening to see basic language errors in a legal document:

"NET TALK.COM, INC. has no principle office in South Dakota..."

(The word should be "principal" in this context).

We all make such mistakes in daily life and in casual contexts. Seeing them in legal filings, Wall Street Journal articles, and so forth, is unfortunate.

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"A reader once suggested to us a way that everyone can keep this pair straight: if you can substitute 'main' (which contains an 'a'), use principal (which also contains an 'a'). If you can substitute 'rule' (which ends in 'le'), use principle (which also ends in 'le')."

(William and Mary Morris, Harper Dictionary of Contemporary Usage, Harper & Row, 1975)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775640 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:32:42 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775486 B : Fascinating. Another CLEC, "Ntera", is right next door too.

The Internet's such a wonderful tool.

Another variation on the above filings at »docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cach···en&gl=us

You know, after a little sleuthing I thought the trail was cold -- no other apparent connections between the two company heads.

But then I found this from December 2008

»74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:nF···nk&gl=us

(Google Cache)

Whether or not there's a formal connection, at the least NetTalk "borrowed" that document from YMax -- they neglected to change at least two occurrences of "YMax" to NetTalk. :)

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775486 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:00:39 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775134 macman4hire : According to this video the hardware is made in the USA.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bgRariy···=related
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775134 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:52:26 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775022 macman4hire : PX,

Nice job on the research! This is indeed very interesting. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22775022 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:33:28 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774682 PX Eliezer :
said by B See Profile :

I doubt anyone really gives a !$()@*#$% about the company, but that little ATA is very interesting.
-- B
I think the company would be very interesting IF it turns out to have business dealings with MagicJack.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774682 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:20:22 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774653 B : I doubt anyone really gives a !$()@*#$% about the company, but that little ATA is very interesting.

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774653 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:16:20 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774615 PX Eliezer : Looks like they just got their current website last month.

But the company was incorporated in Florida a few years ago, and changed its name from Discover Screens.

They have been applying for CLEC licenses in various states.

And here's something interesting:

»www.flpsc.com/library/filings/09···4-09.pdf

Looks like they are asking the Florida authorities to approve this change:

An interconnection agreement between Verizon and YMax (MagicJack) now exists. NetTalk will adopt the same agreement with Verizon as well.

They are also doing this in other states.

Interesting that they are based in Miami, same town as MagicJack/YMax.

MUCH MORE INFO:

»investing.businessweek.com/resea···52892952

Includes this:

Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced delayed 10-Q filing-----
On 06/30/2009, Net Talk.Com, Inc. announced that they will be unable to file their next 10-Q by the deadline required by the SEC.

Net Talk.Com, Inc. Auditor Raises 'Going Concern' Doubt----
Net Talk.Com, Inc. filed its Annual on February 09, 2009 for the period ending September 30, 2008. In this report its auditor, KBL LLP, gave an unqualified opinion expressing doubt that the company can continue as a going concern.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774615 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:07:06 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774406 anon : yes I purchased One. Received in about 3 days. I just plugged the device it into my router and plugged the phone into the device. works fine so far.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774406 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:25:20 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774062 macman4hire : Sorry I guess I miss read it. Corrected initial post. Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22774062 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:12:53 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773981 voipjunk : Is it one year or three years, I can see

You will receive free unlimited local and long distance calling for 3 years. After that time you will be billed $19.95 per year for phone service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773981 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:56:23 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773977 pagemen : It's a very interesting device(&service), the mini-USB port is used for power as well as PC connectivity. I read the manual but can't find a download for the driver(It does work along without PC).

And, its SIP-based and should work with other ATA/Asterisk box. Their web portal is the standard A2billing interface with SIP/IAX info provided!!

»faq.nettalk.com/index.php?_m=dow···temid=29]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773977 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:55:57 EDT Re: netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773906 B : It's not the same device -- it's not reliant on a PC.

It has a USB connection that can optionally be used to connect to a PC, but it also can be directly attached via RJ45 to a router or modem...

But no, I never heard of it before...

-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773906 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:44:00 EDT netTalk tk6000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773621 macman4hire : Has anyone used this service »https://www.tk6000.com According to their website the total with shipping is $100.00 including the first 3 years of service. The service can renew for another year for $20.00. I wonder if this is Ymax company like MagicJack as the video style and wording resembles MagicJack ads.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,22773621 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:57:54 EDT