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dlewis23

join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL

Not Apple's Fault!

We all know that Apple is not the one behind this, AT&T wouldn't want this because they would loose wireless revenue. But what they fail to realize is that this could help some with network congestion.

squison

join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA
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Not really. SMS runs on a largely unused control network and takes little/nothing to run. Data services, on the other hand, cost much more to operate. So, not only does GV SMS not generate SMS revenue for ATT, but it also costs them more to send each message.



rahlquist
Redeye

join:2001-10-30
Villa Rica, GA
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·Charter

said by squison:

Not really. SMS runs on a largely unused control network and takes little/nothing to run. Data services, on the other hand, cost much more to operate. So, not only does GV SMS not generate SMS revenue for ATT, but it also costs them more to send each message.
Part of your statement deserves reiteration.

SMS uses largely unused control blocks that are sent to your phone constantly anyway.

Data is a direct data connection that doesn't exist till you initiate it.

One is constant and will always come whether you have a SMS message coming in or not. The other occurs only on demand, but occurs for that demand and is traffic in addition to the SMS. The morons at AT&T dont seem to get that data planse are a direct competitor for SMS and by restricting the apps that can use the data fo what they wish they are opening themselves to possible lawsuits for anti-competitive practices.
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puck0114

join:2005-12-24
Portland, OR

reply to dlewis23

Completely Apple's Fault

Last time I checked, AT&T doesn't have the ability to remove things from APPLE'S app store.

dlewis23

join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL

said by puck0114:

Last time I checked, AT&T doesn't have the ability to remove things from APPLE'S app store.
Not true actually. Since its on AT&T's network you can bet that there is a clause in the contact Apple and AT&T have that says some types of apps are not allow. And I can safely say a VOIP related app is one of those.

Also one of the rules for being a developer is to not create a data intensive application. And we all know who wanted that.

puck0114

join:2005-12-24
Portland, OR
Reviews:
·Comcast

Completely true. No one at AT&T has the ability to remove an app from the app store. Only Apple can do that. If they're doing it to fulfill their contractual obligations (which right now we have zero proof of), it's still Apple who removes the app, not AT&T. If Apple agreed to contractual terms that require them to remove the app, that's their issue for agreeing to them instead of protecting the interests of their customers.



EdG

@eastlink.ca

reply to dlewis23

Re: Not Apple's Fault!

said by dlewis23:

We all know that Apple is not the one behind this, AT&T wouldn't want this because they would loose wireless revenue. But what they fail to realize is that this could help some with network congestion.
Apple choose who to partner with - Apple is as much at fault as AT&T.

Apple must have agreed to pulling the app - either a few days ago, or when they (stupidly) agreed to let AT&T to have a say in such matters.

Apple can build design great hardware, but has the business and PR sense of a squirrel...

ross

join:2000-08-16

reply to dlewis23

said by dlewis23:

We all know that Apple is not the one behind this, AT&T wouldn't want this because they would loose wireless revenue. But what they fail to realize is that this could help some with network congestion.
It's LOSE, dammit, LOSE.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to puck0114

Re: Completely Apple's Fault

This is why the people who contract murder for example always get off. Oh wait, they don't.

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