James121
@verizon.net
| reply to nascar
Re: Epix
Watching the channel for a few hours this does have the potential to be a great service since the Studio libraries are massive and with some real classics. If they could actually show a wide range of movies and present them in top quality audio and OAR then they could be very competitive with HBO and the rest. Whens the last time HBO or Starz/Showtime with all of their individual channels ever routinely showed classic movies from the past? I think it could be a great channel addition however I dont feel its worth $9. If it was $5 or less and bundled with the total movie package I would have no problem. I dont need online streaming nor do I want it so to pay $9 for one channel and VOD is a bit much. Still this does have the potential and that I give them credit for. |
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jimboe
join:2000-08-14
New York
 ·Optimum Online
1 edit | reply to appleman102
said by appleman102  :why is the original aspect ratio such a big deal? It seriously looks fine, don't be such a videophile that you can't enjoy anything! Let me take a swing for the majority here:
Because it's a, quote, un-quote, *premium channel*.
..and the other more salient reasons given with nice links  .
Seriously tho, on another note/question:
I see ST:Generations in the guide coming up, which was admittedly played ad-nauseum on SHO (? IIRC ?) over the last upteen months/years.
So, does that mean, that we will no longer EVER see THAT movie (or Iron Man, etc., etc.) on ANY of the other, "normal" premium movie channels?
Cuz I sometimes enjoy watching some things over and over, in the background while working, whatever.
I know, I'm lame.. |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to nascar
overview | 
more stuff | 
other stuff | 
partial details (sans |
 I thought the "watch with friends" bit was interesting.
The "movie details" page is really quite extensive, posted about half of it here... |
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Indisbief
@verizon.net | reply to nascar
"The Untouchables" is in OAR right now. Possibly older films will not be modifed since they already exist as masters. |
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techygeek
join:2008-04-30
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| reply to darcilicious
I like it but to promise a consistant $9.95, better to also..
I like seeing these "my feeling, hardly ever on cable" classics in HD no less and very clear and sharp. Looks like they took the time, in most cases, to get as much detail off the film as possible.
That said, my gosh, im shelling out enough, now another $9.95/mo. Instead, it can be that but they should also sell individually for, say $2.99/Movie for say 24 hrs.
2 ways of selling it will reap better profits, I feel cause I think they have a nice selection of movies. I don't think people feel a few bucks, once in a while as much as they feel $10/mo just to see anything. |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
1 edit | reply to nascar
Re: Epix
Epix is an EPIC FAIL.
IronMan was cropped last night. They butchered it by zooming in and cutting off 40% of the picture. For any chance to get some money from me they would need to show the movies without being butchered. |
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Jad1325
@verizon.net
| reply to nascar
I like what this channel can be and the enormous libraries that it is backed by. However while liking the channel I still am not able to justify spending $10 for one channel. I use VOD a ton but to me that should not factor into the cost just like I do not factor it into HBO or Showtime's cost. I never stream anything online since the quality is usually inferior and real small in size. They need to add the linear feed and the VOD to the ultimate movie package or the showtime/starz package and sell the online streaming separately. I cant justify spending $10 for one network.
Has anyone who has seen the free preview decided to subscribe come monday? |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
Premium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
·Verizon FIOS
| said by Jad1325 :
I use VOD a ton but to me that should not factor into the cost just like I do not factor it into HBO or Showtime's cost.
If you don't think you're paying for VOD when you subscribe to HBO or Showtime you're wrong. |
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appleman102
join:2002-07-23
Morristown, NJ | reply to nascar
I will be purchasing Epix for 30 cents a day on Monaday. You figure if I watch 10 movies a month I'm only spending 1$ per movie. Good deal IMO. Epix rocks! |
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MeatChicken
join:2007-08-15
Paramus, NJ
1 edit | reply to nascar
I also do not see this channel being able to sustain itself with a price of $120/yr.
Forget us knowledgeable 'geeks', the vast majority of Fios subscribers & general public will know little or nothing about this channel .. even a year from now.
When it comes time to pick a movie pkg, they will see a massive multichannel & on Demand package that includes the well known & wanted Stars/Showtime/TMC/Encore, Flix, IFC & Cinemax for about $15,
A big HBO multichannel pkg for about $15, or there's also this single EPIX movie channel they probably never heard of for $10.
There's no perceived value here. It's got to appeal to the masses to become a success, not just the occasional in-the-know movie 'geek', or a few super rich customers that just check "every box" when ordering service ....
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Jad1325
@verizon.net
| reply to darcilicious
said by darcilicious :said by Jad1325 :
I use VOD a ton but to me that should not factor into the cost just like I do not factor it into HBO or Showtime's cost.
If you don't think you're paying for VOD when you subscribe to HBO or Showtime you're wrong. Cablevision and other services charge extra for HBO VOD. So my point was while it may be included in the package fee its not a separate charge. I know its paid for just that we don't buy it separately like you do with Cablevision. |
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RockLad1
@verizon.net
| reply to appleman102
said by appleman102 :I will be purchasing Epix for 30 cents a day on Monaday. You figure if I watch 10 movies a month I'm only spending 1$ per movie. Good deal IMO. Epix rocks! But earlier you said "....Im not paying over 2$ for this crap channel". |
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millerzone
join:2004-10-15
Kirkland, WA | reply to nascar
No OAR == no sale.
HDNet Movies and MGM-HD show movies in OAR and uncut, and are included with Extreme HD.
Can someone remind me why I need Epix? |
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Tested
join:2008-01-19
Plano, TX
| said by millerzone :No OAR == no sale. HDNet Movies and MGM-HD show movies in OAR and uncut, and are included with Extreme HD. Can someone remind me why I need Epix? OAR? |
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Greg2600
join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ
1 edit | reply to nascar
OAR - original aspect ratio. Films are usually 2.35:1. Widescreen televisions are not, they are 16:9 or 1.78. Therefore you have two main choices. Either you crop the sides of the video to go from 2.35 to 1.78, or you sort of shrink the whole picture a little, and have a think black bar on the top and bottom. OAR is preferred by film makers, of course, since this is what they put in the theater. Even with the slight letter boxing, every HDTV out there has a zoom feature, usually called HD Zoom, for those who want it to fill the screen.
The irony is that most older films, as The Untouchables prove, not THAT much older, are shown in OAR. That of course is idiotic, but the networks have this perception that people don't want letter boxing. Sporting events are filmed as 1.78:1, so they automatically fit the screen. Films, obviously, are shot with a theater in mind. |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Jad1325
said by Jad1325 :
I like what this channel can be and the enormous libraries that it is backed by. However while liking the channel I still am not able to justify spending $10 for one channel. I use VOD a ton but to me that should not factor into the cost just like I do not factor it into HBO or Showtime's cost. I never stream anything online since the quality is usually inferior and real small in size. They need to add the linear feed and the VOD to the ultimate movie package or the showtime/starz package and sell the online streaming separately. I cant justify spending $10 for one network.
Has anyone who has seen the free preview decided to subscribe come monday?
They would have to pay me to have any chance of it being worth it to wacth the butchered content |
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RockLad
@verizon.net
| said by aaronwt :said by Jad1325 :
They would have to pay me to have any chance of it being worth it to wacth the butchered content Same here. |
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gsjs316
join:2008-10-16
Langhorne, PA
| reply to Greg2600
said by Greg2600 :That of course is idiotic, but the networks have this perception that people don't want letter boxing. Sporting events are filmed as 1.78:1, so they automatically fit the screen. Films, obviously, are shot with a theater in mind. While that may seem true, a majority of people can't stand having black bars on the left and right side of a 16:9 TV on SD channels, so they stretch it out. Even if they don't want to watch SD channels, they still do that.
Most people just flat-out don't want to see black bars anywhere on their screen. They bought a 16:9 TV, they want the whole screen filled out. I don't feel that way, but most people do. |
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Timothy28
join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX | I like the whole screen filled but if i want that on a letterboxed movie pushing a button is simple enough to do so. |
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RockLad
@verizon.net
| said by Timothy28 :I like the whole screen filled but if i want that on a letterboxed movie pushing a button is simple enough to do so. Exactly. If there was a button people could use to "zoom out" of a cropped movie, I wouldn't care. But there isn't. Presenting the film properly is good for everyone. People who don't like black bars can zoom in and crop the picture themselves! And everyone else can still see the movie as it should be. But cropping, as EPIX does, is a lose/lose situation for all. |
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