JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to lewisc
Re: Epix
The channel lineup on their website is very out of date too... all that tells me is that they take their time updating their website. I am surprised not to see anything on there about ordering Epix, but not by too much. It wouldn't surprise me if they packaged it with the movie pack, for a couple extra bucks a month. If they did that, I'd sign up for it. |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Theman2006
said by Theman2006  :Cool man, I guess everyone does not watch a movie the same way. Yes information is lost but me personally I get entranced in the movie and would have probably missed that headline on I'am Legend. And as far as macro blocking, it's not worst than any other premium channel I've seen. I watched IronMan last night while sitting next to my pc which is about 3 feet away from my 50 inch plasma and did not notice any macro blocking. I understand some people are videophiles but nothing is every going to be perfect. If you want perfect OAR copies then buy the Blu Ray. Films not being shown in OAR is not a good enough reason too hate on the channel, especially when every other premium channel does it as well and you're paying for those channels. Yes but for $10 you can get multiple HD channel from other premiums. $10 for one HD channel that also butchers the content is absurd.
And it's pretty obvious right away that the pciture from IronMan did not look right. I don't need a side by side picture to figure that out. Not when people are partially cut off in the picture. That is not normal when filming a movie. |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
3 edits | reply to JPL
said by JPL :I think you need to have your setup checked - in all seriousness. I've been watching stuff on Epix all weekend and I've seen absolutely zero macroblocking. I actually expected some on a movie like Iron Man, but saw none. If you're seeing macroblocking everywhere, then I would check your setup. Of all the gripes I've read on here about the channel, your's is the first with this one complaint. Not saying it's not legitimate, but I have to say, the PQ on Epix that I've seen so far has been really nice. Zero macro blocking does not exist from the cable providers. While it is less from FIOS when compared to other providers, it is still there.
Every channel, escpecially VOD on FIOS, has macroblocking whenever there is fast movement, fast pans, or bright flashes. Even running the picture through thousands of dollars of processing to help eliminate macroblocking can't get rid of it all for me.
I can easily see the macroblocking on a 26" HD set, 32", 37", 40", 65" and 67". |
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matcarl
join:2007-03-09
Franklin Square, NY
1 edit | reply to lewisc
said by lewisc :A poster in another forum had an online chat with VZ and was told Epix will be included in the movie package. NO GUARANTEE THAT'S ACCURATE but there is still no way to sign up for Epix on the FiOS website, unless I'm missing something, no pricing or signup information on the Epix channel. I just signed onto "My Account" and see an option to add Epix for $9.99, which of course I am not |
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JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA | reply to aaronwt
I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free. |
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justin9876
join:2006-04-21
Keller, TX
| said by JPL :I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free. I agree. I watched the whole movie and not any pixelation or macroblocking that I saw. |
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jaw2012
join:2008-08-01
019405
| said by justin9876 :said by JPL :I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free. I agree. I watched the whole movie and not any pixelation or macroblocking that I saw. I agree too.....no macroblocks were on my set either. |
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chitchatjf
join:2008-07-13
Lawrence, MA | reply to nascar
895 is off and I put in an order too.
You can't turn it back on from the box.
My online access is still on and the Epix free preview on demand menu is still up |
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Timothy28
join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX | reply to nascar
895 is still on here in Lewisville Texas. |
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film11
@verizon.net | reply to nascar
Jeez! Now EPIX has cropped the first 3 INDIANA JONES films as well. Where do I sign up?!?!?! |
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JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| While I agree that Epix should be running all their stuff in OAR, I have to believe over time they will. Heck even channels like HD Net Movies - lauded for their dedication to preserving the vision of the artists who made the movie - crop movies from time to time. I love HD Net and HD Net Movies, so this is far from a criticism. I love horror movies, and around Halloween I go trolling the listings for stuff that I want to record. HD Net Movies had one (very crappy movie) called House of the Devil. Yeah, I watched it all the way through. And last night, as I watched the end, it hit me - the movie is 16:9. I hit the info button to make sure that it was indeed recorded off of HD Net Movies - it was. |
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Damn,
VZ didn't waste any time turning off this channel!
$10/mo for movies from 1975?? C'mon now..
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"ONE team - ONE city - ONE dream!!" |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| said by JeepMatt :Damn, VZ didn't waste any time turning off this channel! $10/mo for movies from 1975?? C'mon now.. And for only one channel and for some butchered movies too. Someone at FIOS is smoking something they shouldn't be. |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to jaw2012
said by jaw2012 :said by justin9876 :said by JPL :I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free. I agree. I watched the whole movie and not any pixelation or macroblocking that I saw. I agree too.....no macroblocks were on my set either. There is macroblocking on every broadcast. they were there on IronMan even if you didn't notice them. |
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to film11
said by film11 :
Jeez! Now EPIX has cropped the first 3 INDIANA JONES films as well. Where do I sign up?!?!?!
I've had the first Inidana Jones films in HD since the early 2000's from ABC HD recordings I made back then. Back when they had higher bit rates and less macroblocking, If it wasn't for the commercials, the ABC broadcast would certainly be considered better than EPIX. |
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Lee GWB
Yaco
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join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ | If it ain't free ... It ain't for me  I am dumping Phone this week and going with OOma as soon as I get an answer from Billing on ETF.
Lee |
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JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to aaronwt
said by aaronwt :There is macroblocking on every broadcast. they were there on IronMan even if you didn't notice them. Please look at the context of what I wrote initially. I was responding to HDFanatic's comment that Epix was so blocky that it was like watching something off his PC via the web. I understand that there's macroblocking on every feed - I do get that. But if there was any there on Iron Man I didn't see it. THAT was my point. Whereas on other channels the macroblocking can be very noticeable, I didn't see any on Epix when I was watching it. In my mind, in terms of PQ, if you can watch a movie like Iron Man with no real noticeable macroblocking, then that tells me that the PQ for that channel is pretty darn nice. I see more macroblocking on HD Net when watching concert footage. |
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Greg2600
join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ | reply to nascar
I didn't notice macro blocking on Epix. Frankly HBO has some of the worst PQ of any HD channel, on movies. I swear the reason is their stupid crop and zoom. |
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film11
@verizon.net
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said by JPL :While I agree that Epix should be running all their stuff in OAR, I have to believe over time they will. Heck even channels like HD Net Movies - lauded for their dedication to preserving the vision of the artists who made the movie - crop movies from time to time. I love HD Net and HD Net Movies, so this is far from a criticism. I love horror movies, and around Halloween I go trolling the listings for stuff that I want to record. HD Net Movies had one (very crappy movie) called House of the Devil. Yeah, I watched it all the way through. And last night, as I watched the end, it hit me - the movie is 16:9. I hit the info button to make sure that it was indeed recorded off of HD Net Movies - it was. HOUSE OF THE DEVIL was not cropped. It was filmed at 1.85:1, not 2.35:1... so HDNet showed it correctly. I have never found a movie cropped on HDNet Movies. |
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film11
@verizon.net
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said by Greg2600 :I didn't notice macro blocking on Epix. Frankly HBO has some of the worst PQ of any HD channel, on movies. I swear the reason is their stupid crop and zoom. I agree that this practice also affects PQ...perhaps because they might crop by "zooming in" on the picture. And, while I thought the PQ on EPIX was good, it would have been even sharper if it were shown properly. |
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