Topic 'Epix' in forum 'Verizon FIOS TV' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Epix-22777057 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:10:20 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:10:20 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23507133 said by alan47:

Does anyone know how EPIX is doing subscriber-wise?
Nothing public that I know of but they are on the verge of signing deals with Dish and Cox for 2010.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23507133 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:39:34 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23506976 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23506976 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:12:25 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23359001 said by chitchatjf:

I got an Email from the folks at Epix

"We hear you loud and clear about getting the movies in OAR."
That's all they said?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23359001 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:22:55 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23350619
"We hear you loud and clear about getting the movies in OAR."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23350619 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:55:15 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23309426 I remember saying back in the late 1970's "What A**hole is going to pay for TV " Period!
Guess who the ass is ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23309426 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:41:37 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23307843 said by chitchatjf:

Showtime is NOT interested in the films.

Besides they had an 18 month window between a theatrical release and a screening on their channel.

I agree as much as you about OAR,but with Epix actually OWNED by the studios they could have a much shorter window.

I can even foresee the day when they air movies BEFORE they run in theaters a la HDNet Movies.
SHOWTIME is certainly interested...just not at the higher price those studios were demanding. And the "window" can always be renegotiated. But, shorter window or not, I wouldn't watch a cropped film, especially if I'm being asked to pay for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23307843 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:19:58 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306823
Besides they had an 18 month window between a theatrical release and a screening on their channel.

I agree as much as you about OAR,but with Epix actually OWNED by the studios they could have a much shorter window.

I can even foresee the day when they air movies BEFORE they run in theaters a la HDNet Movies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306823 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:22:01 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306599 said by chitchatjf See Profile
I would had shown Star Trek :)
[/BQUOTE :

A cropped STAR TREK! Great!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306599 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:15:51 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306452 said by nascar See Profile
What matters to me the most is that Paramount, Lions Gate and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer won't sell or won't sell in a timely manner their content to anyone else like Showtime and HBO.

Frankly, part of me wants Epix to fail.
[/BQUOTE :

Same here. If Sh0wtime were to regain the rights, the films would be presented properly, without any mutilation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306452 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:53:09 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306459
One thing that would really help them. Lower the window between theatrical release and Epix screening even more.

Tonight the linear channel features rebroadcasts of Benjamin Button and the Madonna concert.

I would had shown Star Trek :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306459 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:30:47 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306265
I could have sworn in the beginning when it was announced that it was going to be included in the Movie package. Wishful thinking on my part I guess.

What matters to me the most is that Paramount, Lions Gate and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer won't sell or won't sell in a timely manner their content to anyone else like Showtime and HBO.

Frankly, part of me wants Epix to fail. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23306265 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:41:56 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23290702 said by JoeRu :

Did anyone sign up for this?
Apparently. »Poll: Will you pay $9.99/mo to sign up for EPIX?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23290702 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:36:53 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23290429 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23290429 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:09 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23287351 said by HDTVFanAtic:

Using your logic, you should have never paid the money to invest in an HDTV - its only a few cents per movie, so what do you for that price? You could have accepted SD and been done with it.

Just because you do not see something because of physcial limitation, quoting you:

said by JPL:

My eyesight's not great
That doesn't mean that we should all come down to the least common denominator - that being your eyesight.
Seems as though this thread has become a discussion about audio and video qualities and less about Epix (just a reason to have the discussion rather than the topic itself. Any other new channel would have served the same purpose)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23287351 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:23:36 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23287106
Just because you do not see something because of physcial limitation, quoting you:

said by JPL:

My eyesight's not great
That doesn't mean that we should all come down to the least common denominator - that being your eyesight.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23287106 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:41:56 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23284589 said by HDTVFanAtic:

said by jimboe:

said by jasg:

... Long ago, when I got started with high fidelity audio, a wise friend explained to me that 'audiophiles listen to the distortion in their gear but music lovers hear the music'.
Excellent, truly excellent.

Comical.

Audiophiles are the true music lovers who want the music to be sound like it does when it is performed liver - free of distortion.

They want the attack when a drumstick hits the cymbal. A ringing that has a slow decay - just like in real life - Not the sound of a piece of wood against something that does not even sound musical.

Its the non-audiophiles who listen to distortion and think its really music when in fact it is really distortion.

In Video, we want to see what the Director intended for us to see.

Its even more comical you are asking for OAR when you want it distorted OAR.
You misunderstand.

I was NOT downplaying the issue(s) Re: 'Poor' picture quality on Epix: I was merely commenting on a clever 'philisophical' expression which can at times, be apropos. Not necessarily here.

In fact, I happen to agree with your criticims w.r.t. to Epix and happen to appreciate your detailed analysis and the discussion which is generated.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23284589 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:13:01 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23283224 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23283224 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:32:23 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282998
Second, if Epix isn't a premium way to see movies, then why get it? That's an individual choice - but if you're expecting the premium way to see movies for $10/month, you're living on another planet. You're talking, literally about having access to hundreds of movies for $10/month. That works out to pennies per movie... and you're expecting to have the most pristine movie-going experience for that? Last time I checked, people who want premium aren't afraid to PAY premium. I don't go into a gas station expecting to pay the price of regular if I get the premium gas.

It all comes down to what you get and what you pay for. If I'm spending $30 for Blu-Ray movie and it's not in OAR, then I'm very upset. If I'm paying a couple cents to see a movie on a TV channel and it's not in OAR, I shrug.

Please stop with the insults. I'm not some bone-headed bafoon who doesn't understand this stuff. Most people on here understand what you're saying just fine. What I don't get is why you're so stinking upset about it. Again, what exactly are your expectations for a channel where you pay pennies per movie?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282998 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:48:35 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282818 said by jimboe:

said by jasg:

... Long ago, when I got started with high fidelity audio, a wise friend explained to me that 'audiophiles listen to the distortion in their gear but music lovers hear the music'.
Excellent, truly excellent.

Comical.

Audiophiles are the true music lovers who want the music to be sound like it does when it is performed liver - free of distortion.

They want the attack when a drumstick hits the cymbal. A ringing that has a slow decay - just like in real life - Not the sound of a piece of wood against something that does not even sound musical.

Its the non-audiophiles who listen to distortion and think its really music when in fact it is really distortion.

In Video, we want to see what the Director intended for us to see.

Its even more comical you are asking for OAR when you want it distorted OAR.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282818 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:44:26 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282810
For those who want the reason why, further examination has shown it is because EPIX is using a very poorly implemented GOP structure.

First, they are putting 2 B frames back to back in between every I Frame or P Frame. This is very poor practice, especially when you only use 1 I Frame per GOP for reasons that are far more technical than those that think the earth is still flat can put their hands around - and outside the topic of this thread. Let's just say that you waste massive amount of bandwidth on B Frames as no other frame can be based on a B Frame, providing you know how Video works with I, B and P frames.

Second, they are leading off the GOP with 2 B Frames which is suicide for PQ, even with the smallest amount of change from the previous GOP.

Third, instead of using scene change detection and variable length GOPs, they are using constant GOP lengths all starting with 2 B Frames instead of an I Frame, which they should do if they wish to destroy the rest of the GOP with back to back B Frames.

Fourth, they are using an Open GOP, which is good in and of itself UNLESS YOU ARE LEADING THE GOP WITH B FRAMES.

Fifth, by not using the telecine flag they are wasting over 20% of their bitrate on repeated frames that the STB could do locally just as well. If they did this, they could move to an I-B-P-B-P-B-P etc pattern for each GOP instead of the current B-B-I-B-B-P-B-B-P pattern that is causing the macroblocking.

Finally, on another Quality Issue, the DialNorm is set to -24db, which means you get 3db more compression than most of the other Premium Channels and in some cases 7db more compression.

Frame 1 of GOP - B Frame showing severe Macroblocking



Frame 2 of GOP - B Frame showing Macroblocking



Frame 3 of GOP - I Frame finally free of Macroblocking



Dial Norm below default -27db setting and at a very low -24db on EPIX.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282810 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:34:41 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282482 said by jasg:

... Long ago, when I got started with high fidelity audio, a wise friend explained to me that 'audiophiles listen to the distortion in their gear but music lovers hear the music'. Excellent, truly excellent.

Thank you (and your friend).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282482 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:19:40 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282065 said by jasg:

said by aaronwt:

I don't think it is there I KNOW it is there.
It's good if you don't see the macroblocking since ignorance is bliss when it comes to picture quality. Once you notice the imperfections it's difficult to ignore them.
Perhaps you can train your brain to not notice the defects, I know that I have done that with DLP 'rainbows'.

Long ago, when I got started with high fidelity audio, a wise friend explained to me that 'audiophiles listen to the distortion in their gear but music lovers hear the music'.

I have tried to keep that in mind with my current video hobby.
Yes that is a good philosophy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23282065 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:40:24 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23281800 said by aaronwt:

I don't think it is there I KNOW it is there.
It's good if you don't see the macroblocking since ignorance is bliss when it comes to picture quality. Once you notice the imperfections it's difficult to ignore them.
Perhaps you can train your brain to not notice the defects, I know that I have done that with DLP 'rainbows'.

Long ago, when I got started with high fidelity audio, a wise friend explained to me that 'audiophiles listen to the distortion in their gear but music lovers hear the music'.

I have tried to keep that in mind with my current video hobby.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23281800 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:45:20 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23281069 said by justin9876:

said by aaronwt:

There is macroblocking on every broadcast. they were there on IronMan even if you didn't notice them.
You know, it really doesn't matter if you think they are there or not, or even if they are really there, if I don't see them, for me they are not there. I really think you are beating the proverbial dead horse to death. If you don't like it, don't watch it, but please quit telling me what I am or should be seeing, it is pointless.

Thank you.
I don't think it is there I KNOW it is there.
It's good if you don't see the macroblocking since ignorance is bliss when it comes to picture quality. Once you notice the imperfections it's difficult to ignore them.

I see the problems from every TV I've seen whether analog or digital, and from Comcast, FIOS, DirecTV, DISH and OTA.
I have equipment to minimize it at home, which makes it more tolerable, but without it, sometimes it's too annoying to watch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23281069 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:23:54 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278971 said by aaronwt:

There is macroblocking on every broadcast. they were there on IronMan even if you didn't notice them.
You know, it really doesn't matter if you think they are there or not, or even if they are really there, if I don't see them, for me they are not there. I really think you are beating the proverbial dead horse to death. If you don't like it, don't watch it, but please quit telling me what I am or should be seeing, it is pointless.

Thank you.
--
Justin
Verizon FiOS TV and Internet
Motorola QIP6416 HD DVR
Sony KDL-V40XBR1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278971 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:01:33 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278887 said by shark2k See Profile

It's really anything 2.0:1 and greater that matters if it gets chopped up where you lose a lot of image.

-Shark2k
[/BQUOTE :

Exactly my point. I'm not worried about missing a tiny sliver. But what EPIX does to widescreen films is serious butchering.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278887 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:54:20 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278833 said by JPL:

The House of the Devil filled my screen. If there were black bars then I would have seen them. Yes, they would have been small, but I've noticed them with other movies done in 1.85:1. I would have noticed them on this movie too. There were none. My eyesight's not great, and I can see them at 10 - 11' from my TV... I don't need to be inches from the TV to see them.1.85:1 Movies tend to just fill the screen. The ratio is so close to 1.78:1 that most of the time studios don't bother with that extra little area. 1.66:1 movies also tend to fill the screen (Disney movies mainly are where you see this ratio). But interestingly enough, The Nightmare Before Christmas on Blu-ray actually has to small black bars to the left and right of the image which means it is displayed properly. Aladdin on DVD though does fill the screen up entirely if I'm not mistaken and that has a 1.66:1 ratio.

It's really anything 2.0:1 and greater that matters if it gets chopped up where you lose a lot of image.

-Shark2k]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278833 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:43:06 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278733 said by film11 :

said by JPL:

said by film11 :

Maybe I'm doing the math wrong, but 16:9 works out to 1.78:1... not 1.85:1. Meaning that there should have been black bars on the top and bottom - minimal though they would have been. There were none.
I have 2 settings on my monitor: 16:9 and Screen Fit. Using screen fit, there were black bars but they were so small that I had to be inches away from the screen to see them. It's one thing to lose a tiny sliver of picture...but it's another thing to lose 25% - 40% of the picture, which is what EPIX does.
The House of the Devil filled my screen. If there were black bars then I would have seen them. Yes, they would have been small, but I've noticed them with other movies done in 1.85:1. I would have noticed them on this movie too. There were none. My eyesight's not great, and I can see them at 10 - 11' from my TV... I don't need to be inches from the TV to see them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278733 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:30:14 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278723 said by JPL:

said by film11 :

Maybe I'm doing the math wrong, but 16:9 works out to 1.78:1... not 1.85:1. Meaning that there should have been black bars on the top and bottom - minimal though they would have been. There were none.
I have 2 settings on my monitor: 16:9 and Screen Fit. Using screen fit, there were black bars but they were so small that I had to be inches away from the screen to see them. It's one thing to lose a tiny sliver of picture...but it's another thing to lose 25% - 40% of the picture, which is what EPIX does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278723 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:28:30 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278618 said by film11 :

said by JPL:

While I agree that Epix should be running all their stuff in OAR, I have to believe over time they will. Heck even channels like HD Net Movies - lauded for their dedication to preserving the vision of the artists who made the movie - crop movies from time to time. I love HD Net and HD Net Movies, so this is far from a criticism. I love horror movies, and around Halloween I go trolling the listings for stuff that I want to record. HD Net Movies had one (very crappy movie) called House of the Devil. Yeah, I watched it all the way through. And last night, as I watched the end, it hit me - the movie is 16:9. I hit the info button to make sure that it was indeed recorded off of HD Net Movies - it was.
HOUSE OF THE DEVIL was not cropped. It was filmed at 1.85:1, not 2.35:1... so HDNet showed it correctly. I have never found a movie cropped on HDNet Movies.
Maybe I'm doing the math wrong, but 16:9 works out to 1.78:1... not 1.85:1. Meaning that there should have been black bars on the top and bottom - minimal though they would have been. There were none.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278618 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:10:11 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278553 said by Greg2600:

I didn't notice macro blocking on Epix. Frankly HBO has some of the worst PQ of any HD channel, on movies. I swear the reason is their stupid crop and zoom. I agree that this practice also affects PQ...perhaps because they might crop by "zooming in" on the picture. And, while I thought the PQ on EPIX was good, it would have been even sharper if it were shown properly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278553 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:08:06 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278537 said by JPL:

While I agree that Epix should be running all their stuff in OAR, I have to believe over time they will. Heck even channels like HD Net Movies - lauded for their dedication to preserving the vision of the artists who made the movie - crop movies from time to time. I love HD Net and HD Net Movies, so this is far from a criticism. I love horror movies, and around Halloween I go trolling the listings for stuff that I want to record. HD Net Movies had one (very crappy movie) called House of the Devil. Yeah, I watched it all the way through. And last night, as I watched the end, it hit me - the movie is 16:9. I hit the info button to make sure that it was indeed recorded off of HD Net Movies - it was.
HOUSE OF THE DEVIL was not cropped. It was filmed at 1.85:1, not 2.35:1... so HDNet showed it correctly. I have never found a movie cropped on HDNet Movies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278537 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:07:55 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278372 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278372 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:27:30 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278311 said by aaronwt:

There is macroblocking on every broadcast. they were there on IronMan even if you didn't notice them.
Please look at the context of what I wrote initially. I was responding to HDFanatic's comment that Epix was so blocky that it was like watching something off his PC via the web. I understand that there's macroblocking on every feed - I do get that. But if there was any there on Iron Man I didn't see it. THAT was my point. Whereas on other channels the macroblocking can be very noticeable, I didn't see any on Epix when I was watching it. In my mind, in terms of PQ, if you can watch a movie like Iron Man with no real noticeable macroblocking, then that tells me that the PQ for that channel is pretty darn nice. I see more macroblocking on HD Net when watching concert footage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278311 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:12:23 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278307 Lee]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278307 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:11:48 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278180 said by film11 :

Jeez! Now EPIX has cropped the first 3 INDIANA JONES films as well. Where do I sign up?!?!?!
I've had the first Inidana Jones films in HD since the early 2000's from ABC HD recordings I made back then. Back when they had higher bit rates and less macroblocking, If it wasn't for the commercials, the ABC broadcast would certainly be considered better than EPIX.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278180 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:53:07 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278159 said by jaw2012:

said by justin9876:

said by JPL:

I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free.
I agree. I watched the whole movie and not any pixelation or macroblocking that I saw.
I agree too.....no macroblocks were on my set either.
There is macroblocking on every broadcast. they were there on IronMan even if you didn't notice them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278159 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:50:49 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278146 said by JeepMatt:

Damn,
VZ didn't waste any time turning off this channel!

$10/mo for movies from 1975?? C'mon now..
And for only one channel and for some butchered movies too. Someone at FIOS is smoking something they shouldn't be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23278146 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:49:18 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23277292 VZ didn't waste any time turning off this channel!

$10/mo for movies from 1975?? C'mon now..
--
"ONE team - ONE city - ONE dream!!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23277292 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:51:29 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23277287 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23277287 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:46:08 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23277059 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23277059 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 03:18:43 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276938 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276938 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:12:04 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276919
You can't turn it back on from the box.

My online access is still on and the Epix free preview on demand menu is still up ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276919 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:00:04 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276133 said by justin9876:

said by JPL:

I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free.
I agree. I watched the whole movie and not any pixelation or macroblocking that I saw.
I agree too.....no macroblocks were on my set either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276133 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:03:57 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276115 said by JPL:

I'm just saying that even with a movie like Iron Man I saw no macroblocking on Epix at all - not even during the fast action scenes. I never said that fios delivers all their stuff macro-block free.
I agree. I watched the whole movie and not any pixelation or macroblocking that I saw.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23276115 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:59:20 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23275879 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23275879 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:50:51 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23274225 said by lewisc:

A poster in another forum had an online chat with VZ and was told Epix will be included in the movie package. NO GUARANTEE THAT'S ACCURATE but there is still no way to sign up for Epix on the FiOS website, unless I'm missing something, no pricing or signup information on the Epix channel.
I just signed onto "My Account" and see an option to add Epix for $9.99, which of course I am not]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23274225 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:01:03 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23273903 said by JPL:

I think you need to have your setup checked - in all seriousness. I've been watching stuff on Epix all weekend and I've seen absolutely zero macroblocking. I actually expected some on a movie like Iron Man, but saw none. If you're seeing macroblocking everywhere, then I would check your setup. Of all the gripes I've read on here about the channel, your's is the first with this one complaint. Not saying it's not legitimate, but I have to say, the PQ on Epix that I've seen so far has been really nice.
Zero macro blocking does not exist from the cable providers. While it is less from FIOS when compared to other providers, it is still there.

Every channel, escpecially VOD on FIOS, has macroblocking whenever there is fast movement, fast pans, or bright flashes. Even running the picture through thousands of dollars of processing to help eliminate macroblocking can't get rid of it all for me.

I can easily see the macroblocking on a 26" HD set, 32", 37", 40", 65" and 67".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23273903 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:25:47 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23273899 said by Theman2006:

Cool man, I guess everyone does not watch a movie the same way. Yes information is lost but me personally I get entranced in the movie and would have probably missed that headline on I'am Legend. And as far as macro blocking, it's not worst than any other premium channel I've seen. I watched IronMan last night while sitting next to my pc which is about 3 feet away from my 50 inch plasma and did not notice any macro blocking. I understand some people are videophiles but nothing is every going to be perfect. If you want perfect OAR copies then buy the Blu Ray. Films not being shown in OAR is not a good enough reason too hate on the channel, especially when every other premium channel does it as well and you're paying for those channels.
Yes but for $10 you can get multiple HD channel from other premiums. $10 for one HD channel that also butchers the content is absurd.

And it's pretty obvious right away that the pciture from IronMan did not look right. I don't need a side by side picture to figure that out. Not when people are partially cut off in the picture. That is not normal when filming a movie.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23273899 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:23:04 EDT Re: Epix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23273866 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Epix-23273866 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:08:56 EDT