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| | Re: What a crappy company! said by openbox9:How is Sandvine limiting the Internet? And why are the such a bad company? They actually appear to be turning around and listening to their customers, which are sort of listening to their customers. you have no idea what is happening do you . you better read up in the teksavvy forum maybe  | |
|  openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: What a crappy company! This thread started with a claim that Sandvine is a "crappy" company. So far, that claim hasn't even been close to proven. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten me with exactly what makes Sandvine a bad company. Or maybe you're referring to implementation of the technology itself as being the point of contention and not the company itself. If so, that's a different topic. | |
| | | | Re: What a crappy company! said by openbox9:This thread started with a claim that Sandvine is a "crappy" company. So far, that claim hasn't even been close to proven. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten me with exactly what makes Sandvine a bad company. Or maybe you're referring to implementation of the technology itself as being the point of contention and not the company itself. If so, that's a different topic. they all work together on this. its not a coincidence  but sure. its the implementation of the technology, not the company itself. | |
| | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: What a crappy company! Of course they work together. It's no different than ISPs working with any of the other hardware/software vendors employed to help improve network quality and efficiency. Don't blame the company or the technology, blame the ISP the isn't employing the technology to your satisfaction. | |
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|  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
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3 edits | said by openbox9:This thread started with a claim that Sandvine is a "crappy" company. So far, that claim hasn't even been close to proven. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten me with exactly what makes Sandvine a bad company. Or maybe you're referring to implementation of the technology itself as being the point of contention and not the company itself. If so, that's a different topic. It's choice of product is what makes it a bad company.
September 21, 2007 = stock price $7.01 - an all time high
October 18, 2007 = AP reports on Comcast (who uses Sandvine)
Stock begins a six month slide to current-day levels, where it still lingers. (chart link - Sandvine is Blue, S&P 500 is red)
And its customers over the past year -- mainly repression regimes in the middle east. Look how Nextel-Seimens has been punished for blocking in Iran! Sandvine has been making all the wrong moves. They're a smart company, but they're using their smarts to fight freedom and openness and bandwidth growth in a technology context. That's not a good bet as things are racing toward more freedom, more openness, and more bandwidth as a force of nature.
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| | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: What a crappy company! There's a market for their services or else they wouldn't be around any longer and we wouldn't be having this discussion. There's no doubt that Sandvine has received a lot publicity, a lot of which is due to their customers' poor choices, but that doesn't make Sandvine or their product bad. That's the only point I'm making. Blame the users of the tool, not the tool. | |
| | | | funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: What a crappy company! For a crappy tool that nobody should ever want, they make a great one.
How's that! | |
| | | | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: What a crappy company! You're right, get rid of congestion and other network management tools. Turn residential Internet connections into the Wild West and then we'll see how end users start complaining.
Complaining about Sandvine is like complaining about Cisco because some ISPs use their gear to block inbound port 80 or outbound port 25  | |
| | | | | | funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: What a crappy company! said by openbox9:Complaining about Sandvine is like complaining about Cisco because some ISPs use their gear to block inbound port 80 or outbound port 25 I do see your point, I really do.
But Cisco hasn't proven itself as the blocking company that Sandvine has, and in so much as they keep it that way, they'll probably be popular. However Cisco has invested "deeply" in stuff other than fast and efficient packet routing and forwarding, and I suggest that they be careful to remember what really butters their bread.
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Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- District of Columbia -- KJ7RL
Evil does seek to maintain power by suppressing the truth, or by misleading the innocent. --Spock and McCoy stardate 5029.5 | |
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| |  AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | said by funchords: That's not a good bet as things are racing toward more freedom, more openness, and more bandwidth as a force of nature. Be vigilant my friend. Entropy and momentum are working against our freedoms. Freedom is earned by vigilance, courage and blood.
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