| Epic win I fail to see the problem. This is an epic win for customers. |
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| said by DataRiker:I fail to see the problem. This is an epic win for customers. Yeah, until one company is out of biz and Shaw jacks the rates way back up! |
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1 edit | yes well I have a hard time feeling sorry for a FIBER isp that can't compete.
They have an ENORMOUS technical advantage. They could literally offer uncapped speeds 5 times as high. |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | said by DataRiker:yes well I have a hard time feeling sorry for a FIBER isp that can't compete. They have an ENORMOUS technical advantage. They could literally offer uncapped speeds 5 times as high. Except if they don't provide enough fiber capacity to the building. |
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 nklbPremium
join:2000-11-17
Ann Arbor, MI
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said by DataRiker:yes well I have a hard time feeling sorry for a FIBER isp that can't compete. They have an ENORMOUS technical advantage. They could literally offer uncapped speeds 5 times as high. Type of connection to the home says NOTHING about their peering arrangements with other ISPs. It also says NOTHING about their underlying backbone capacity.
If you can't understand the problem here, you don't understand basic economics or technical limitations. |
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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| said by nklb:said by DataRiker:yes well I have a hard time feeling sorry for a FIBER isp that can't compete. They have an ENORMOUS technical advantage. They could literally offer uncapped speeds 5 times as high. Type of connection to the home says NOTHING about their peering arrangements with other ISPs. It also says NOTHING about their underlying backbone capacity. If you can't understand the problem here, you don't understand basic economics or technical limitations. Correct. I do like it when people assume fiber can offer uber speeds. Fiber is a great medium, but it's not connected to the pot o' gold at the end of the bandwidth rainbow.
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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said by DataRiker:I fail to see the problem. This is an epic win for customers. Yeah, for the first year or so until Novus fails, then Epic win becomes epic mega fail.
They flip the script and it becomes $250 a month for 9.95 GB of traffic. Once that pesky competition is gone and all.
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recnepsPremium
join:2006-06-24
Whitby, ON Reviews:
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Enormous advantage? You're clearly not from Canada 
It is near impossible to get any sort of network infrastructure up.
I'm 100% certain they are VERY much in debt in order to get this fibre up and I applaud them.
We are in a true monopoly situation on all major infrastructure.
In every province, there is ONE carrier owning all of the phone lines and ONE carrier owning all the of cable lines. (some provinces are split, but only one provider serves a certain area. No overlap)
Municipalities are also not very happy with the idea of 'little guys' coming in to dig up and put in their own lines, protecting this monopoly even more.
The fact that this company is alive and well and has 9000 subscribers is amazing. I hope they live through this and end up winning one for the consumers (i.e. CHOICE)
Every internet provider has massive profit margins here.
These guys are priced the same, but the difference is that their margins are mostly going to debt payments, I would guess. One can only hope that prices come down once they're in the "plus". |
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said by ptrowski:said by nklb:said by DataRiker:yes well I have a hard time feeling sorry for a FIBER isp that can't compete. They have an ENORMOUS technical advantage. They could literally offer uncapped speeds 5 times as high. Type of connection to the home says NOTHING about their peering arrangements with other ISPs. It also says NOTHING about their underlying backbone capacity. If you can't understand the problem here, you don't understand basic economics or technical limitations. Correct. I do like it when people assume fiber can offer uber speeds. Fiber is a great medium, but it's not connected to the pot o' gold at the end of the bandwidth rainbow. Jesus Christ this is GOLDEN!! |
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| So, if they are so terrible , and allegedly with no backbone capacity (some how again I'm afraid this is there own fault), how is this a problem? |
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WTF!
They're not building this out in the city. The service is only in the buildings owned by Terry.
So yes they do have an advantage they own the network and can lay down any cable they want on THEIR property. It's not like their digging up YOUR lawn.
9000 customers LIVE in their buildings. IT"S NOT VERY MUCH! |
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| This is not true. Novus also services buildings not owned by Terry(aka Concord Pacific). As an example, you won't find my building(Tandem in Burnaby) listed anywhere in Concord's developments, yet we are serviced by Novus. They initially had to get permission from our Strata council. |
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| so they also sign deals with others. Still they're not building out to regular homes. STILL only MDUs/HOAs |
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