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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:7 | reply to ptrowski
Re: caps? I'll toss my 2c in the ring and tell you that based upon real statistics in our real network, customers who buy higher speeds also use more bandwidth.
ALL other things being equal, a person given two different speed connections might consume the same amount of actual data, but all things are not equal. The consumer who pays a higher price for a higher speed is also the same consumer who makes more use of that connection.
-Dane | |
 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Right, there would be some as I have myself. But the typical arguement is wow, now we can hit our caps in 3 days so to speak. | |
jp10558Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY | Well, I don't know about typical use, but I have to figure:
Dial-up - you're loading web pages and occasional pictures
1 Mbps - you're posting a lot more pics to facebook/flicker, you're watching low def youtube etc
3Mbps - you're likely to use youtube all the time, grab streaming video from comedy central etc...
10Mbps - now you might be enjoying high def youtube (which has to eat more bandwidth, but to the end user, they're not "doing more"...), you're probably interested in netflix streaming. I can imagine passing your own videos around...
Also, what about various new services taking off like Orb or Opera Unite or yes all the P2P.
But I just figure that as it becomes possible to do video, lots of normal users like to do so. As it becomes possible for them to use higher def video, they do so because it looks better. But this isn't doing more from a user perspective.
Also, with broadband, more and more ISPs are providing 4 port routers + wi-fi. How many people by now, who aren't techies, are getting more than one PC online and now potentially increasing use if just by updates and simultaneous use? Probably just through not ditching the old PC when they get a new one, or getting a laptop, iPhone, xBox etc... I just can't see how you would deny a continued growth of use by all segments of society in actual transfer.
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jat
join:2008-04-28
Burlington, ON | said by jp10558:Dial-up - you're loading web pages and occasional pictures 1 Mbps - you're posting a lot more pics to facebook/flicker, you're watching low def youtube etc 3Mbps - you're likely to use youtube all the time, grab streaming video from comedy central etc... 10Mbps - now you might be enjoying high def youtube (which has to eat more bandwidth, but to the end user, they're not "doing more"...), you're probably interested in netflix streaming. I can imagine passing your own videos around... This tiered view of internet usage is exactly what the ISPs are counting on. As faster speeds become available, people find more services they can use, and their consumption goes up. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's a linear correlation. Someone switching from 10mbit to 30mbit may use more bandwidth, but probably not three times as much. That's the concept that most ISPs (including Novus) base their scaling on.
Also, while it's probably true that users paying the premium for the highest tier are the ones with the most extreme bandwidth usage, that doesn't mean they're going to be given caps that break the scale used for lower tiers. As someone recently said in the TekSavvy forum: fast, cheap, unlimited; pick two. Unsurprisingly, Novus went with fast and cheap. Even with a 360GB cap, $179.95 for 50/10 is a steal. A truly unlimited (i.e. dedicated) line at that speed would easily cost 10 times as much in this market.
Personally, I think most ISPs have got the scaling of their caps right. What they've got wrong is the base cap, package pricing, and overage fees. Novus could do better in those regards too, but why would they when their current offerings already kick the pants off the competition? | |
 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | In this case it's ultimately about the market but that doesn't mean it's the same everywhere. Telus' Fiber condo project actually provides enough bandwidth to each resident with no bandwidth caps. That isn't a offering that matches the market so it can be done but most residential ISPs would rather sell a shared service. | |
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