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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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reply to doublea

Re: ugh...

said by doublea:

It never ends.... the customer is always LAST
This is true. "Network neutrality" regulation would put big content providers like Google first and the customer (whom it would give poorer and more expensive service and fewer choices of ISPs) last.


digitalfreak
Premium
join:2005-12-09
Blacklick, OH

said by SuperWISP:

said by doublea:

It never ends.... the customer is always LAST
This is true. "Network neutrality" regulation would put big content providers like Google first and the customer (whom it would give poorer and more expensive service and fewer choices of ISPs) last.
More FUD, Wisp?

SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by digitalfreak:

More FUD, Wisp?
Yes, the network neutrality lobbyists are spreading more FUD... and attempting to use the fear they are generating to get legislation passed that would regulate the Internet. Have you seen Markey's latest Internet regulation bill? It would effectively kill off every ISP except for the telephone and cable companies.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Explain how it would kill off all other ISP's including yours?

Because as an ISP, you are more interested in maximizing profits and not providing maximum service to your users, unless of course that meant you could make more money from them.


SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

said by Skippy25:

Explain how it would kill off all other ISP's including yours?
Because it's tough already for competitive ISPs to make a profit. The telcos and cable companies already have buildings full of lawyers to deal with regulations. The smaller and competitive ones don't. What's more, they have higher bandwidth costs, and the bill would prevent these ISPs from effectively controlling bandwidth usage.
said by Skippy25:

Because as an ISP, you are more interested in maximizing profits and not providing maximum service to your users, unless of course that meant you could make more money from them.
Nonsense. You have some nerve. For 17 years, it has been my mission to bring the best Internet possible to unserved and underserved areas. And our company has had several quarters in which it wasn't profitable at all. Those losses were directly out of my pocket.

Just try walking a mile in my moccasins, and you'll know what years of hard work for too little compensation is like.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

I have walked in your shoes as I have ran a computer business that has less then 2% margins for years. Most times I sold parts at a loss and had to make up for it on service.

Regardless, regulation is going to happen and needs to happen. Not only to protect the customer but to protect people like you. You can review every post I have put on here and it is clear I am very much for the consumer. With that, I am very much for bringing the current monopoly/duopoly to it's knees and making it better for people to compete with them. People like you.



tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
Premium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ

reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

Nonsense. You have some nerve. For 17 years, it has been my mission to bring the best Internet possible to unserved and underserved areas. And our company has had several quarters in which it wasn't profitable at all. Those losses were directly out of my pocket.
however, the motivation for you to install a broadband network would not have been there had you felt that there was no potential to make money, correct?
given your incredible "keep government out of broadband posts" that do nothing to villify the current regulatory proposals to help consumers not get blindsided by the current suspects, i have a hard time believing you did this out of the goodness of your own heart.

you did this because you felt you could make money. as any smart business person, you should have weighed the costs of doing business against the return on investment. if you feel that you are receiving "too little compensation" you are more than welcome to go out of business. however, you are a victim in the web you have woven.

if you can't deal, then quit. however, don't bitch about how righteous you are when you are doing this for the same reasons that the major carriers are. they are just making more money at it....

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"...if I in my north room dance naked, grotesquely before my mirror waving my shirt round my head and singing softly to myself..."

SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

said by tubbynet:

however, the motivation for you to install a broadband network would not have been there had you felt that there was no potential to make money, correct?
Not true at all. Deploying broadband, for me, is a mission and a service to the community. In fact, my company was started as a non-profit co-op. However, to create jobs, grow, and provide the best possible service, we went private -- at the request of the membership.

And you have some d**n nerve to attempt to vilify me just because you want something for nothing.


tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
Premium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ

said by SuperWISP:

And you have some d**n nerve to attempt to vilify me just because you want something for nothing.
i'm beginning to see a pattern here. you make bold, outrageous statements that are only there to shill, troll, or further your political agenda. when someone then calls you out on something that is a glaring factual error, glaring logical error, or just plain nonsensical, you attempt to slander them by insisting that they "aren't in the business, so they must be wanting something for free".
its getting old SuperWISP See Profile.

if you actually read my post for its content, rather than the words that you *wanted* to read, you would have seen that in no way did i say "i want everything for nothing". while not in the broadband business, i probably touch more networking gear in a year than the amount of money you bring in as a wisp. i know the cost of the infrastructure. i know the cost of the bandwidth that my customers are paying for. i am versed in broadband policy as this is our future.

my post was simply to verify your motives - to make money. you claim that you are more righteous and holier than thou by bringing broadband to laramie. you act as if *you* are the one who should be receiving a non-stop stream of kudos, accolades, and commendments. my post was simply to point out that you should have done your business research (as every small business must do in order to see if they can "make it" as a business) to find out your total cost of operating. if you miscalculated and are losing money because of it, it is through no ones fault than your own and you have no room to complain - which seems to be all that you do on these forums.

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"...if I in my north room dance naked, grotesquely before my mirror waving my shirt round my head and singing softly to myself..."

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