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00000 | call their bluff Massachusetts: time to call Verizon's bluff. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: call their bluff You mean like New Hampshire did? That sure worked out for the people of New Hampshire, eh? | |
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00000 | Re: call their bluff working under threat by telco is no way to work. MA should fund a public fiber network. Invite all ISPs to offer service on it. Oh, except Verizon for being such a douche. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: call their bluff I agree that if the people don't like the choices offered they should either provide sufficient incentive for someone to offer what they want, or to, as you suggest, build it themselves with their own (collective) money.
Given that the people of the Commonwealth are disinclined to spend money in that manner, you can read into that that the people of the Commonwealth do not find the threat by Verizon to be a grievous offense, as some here would like folks to consider it. | |
| | | | | | Re: call their bluff "The people of the Commonwealth" as you so aptly denoted in fact *do* often want to build their own networks. However, as documents in numerous cases on this website and others, incumbents spend a great deal of effort, time, and money on litigation to prevent such municipal or other publicly-funded efforts from going through.
Furthermore, it's impossible for every person in a society to have perfect access to all information (especially when they have no internet access!), so many (older) rural residents don't realize how much their community would benefit from ubiquitous broadband availability. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: call their bluff I live in the Commonwealth. Where do you live? 
And just because people are "(older)" and "rural" doesn't mean that they don't have their own, valid perspective regarding the relative value of spending public funds on expanding broadband availability, equally worthy of respect as your own. | |
| | | | | | | | Re: call their bluff said by bicker:I live in the Commonwealth. Where do you live? And just because people are "(older)" and "rural" doesn't mean that they don't have their own, valid perspective regarding the relative value of spending public funds on expanding broadband availability, equally worthy of respect as your own. The vast majority of the elderly in rural areas don't even know what a "gigabyte" is. They don't understand the business, health, and economic potential ubiquitous broadband can have for their community. This situation is extremely similar to what happened when both electricity and phone lines were first being drawn across the country.
On the other hand, most younger rural residents are quite well-versed with modern computer technology and jargon, and are quite eager (in some cases desperate) for access to high-speed broadband at affordable prices.
Furthermore, demand for broadband is in many cases equivalent to the chicken and egg problem. Until people have access to high-speed internet services and make use of them, and until word-of-mouth then spreads about the utility of such services, the demand will always be lacking.
Australia is the perfect example of this. 70% of internet users there don't even use Youtube. Why? Because the incumbents have utterly crippled the networks there, enforcing paltry caps and *hugely excessive* overcharges. | |
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Burlington, MA | Re: call their bluff The vast majority of the elderly in rural areas care about a lot of things that you don't care about. The fact that people are different doesn't mean some people (the people you decide) are smart and the other people are dumb. Your assumption of disrespect is the biggest problem with your argument. It's is indefensible. | |
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