 Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON
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Re: Well if you offer something for free... said by Hpower:True. I wonder though. How the hell are people able to sit at a damn coffee shop for hours, studying and doing their homework with all the damn noise going on? I have to be a ta quiet place to be able to study or read anything. Plus, coffee spills on laptops = awesome. I couldn't get that either... Just go to a library FFS, I hate lugging my laptop around, don't know how some people can do it.
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA | It is free for "customers".
Sitting in a seat for three hours, leeching wifi does not make one a customer, it makes them homeless. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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said by Fireblade:said by Hpower:True. I wonder though. How the hell are people able to sit at a damn coffee shop for hours, studying and doing their homework with all the damn noise going on? I have to be a ta quiet place to be able to study or read anything. I couldn't get that either... Just go to a library FFS, I hate lugging my laptop around, don't know how some people can do it. Have you been to a library recently?
They are anything but quiet - no "shh" etiquette any more. While I disagree, I can understand PC librarian think - noisy, chatty kids playing video games, watching DVDs or yapping on cellphones are still kids not on the streets shooting or stabbing each other...
Libraries are also de-facto homeless daycare/shelters, and most stink to high heaven of body odor and worse, as well as the chemical attempts to sanitize the place, which linger forever in the carpet.
Starbucks actually *wants* loungers - its part of their marketing strategy to make the place appear popular. And contrary to the usual bashing, their coffee is actually less expensive than Denny's, McDonald's, Winchell's/Yum-Yum, etc.
I don't care for anything corporate or franchised, but if I'm stuck on the far side of town for several hours, a Starbucks is the most predictable productive place of refuge, free of most annoyances. |
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| said by elray:And contrary to the usual bashing, their coffee is actually less expensive than Denny's, McDonald's, Winchell's/Yum-Yum, etc. Burnt & stale is still burnt & stale. I don't care if it's called the Pope's Blend. Starschmucks sucks and I won't pay six bucks for a thimbleful of swill. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | reply to bigjimc
I agree. Our country is becoming a graveyard of good intentions because people only think of themselves.
About 15 years ago I attended a Microsoft technical conference where the CIO of the major investment company described a situation early in his career where a service provider signed a contract with them. I forget all of the details but it turned out that the service provider grossly underestimated their costs and they could not keep the contract. His company certainly would have been within their right to enforce the contract not unlike the folks who scream "...unlimited means unlimited..." and "...if you advertise free WiFi, it's a free for all..." However, the CIO said he realized that to do so would have put the service provider out of business causing his company to be without the service it needed. He did the right thing and renegotiated the contract so that his company could get what it needed and the service provider could turn a reasonable profit. I've never forgotten his words when he said that a contract really isn't a contract when it doesn't provide reasonable equity.
With respect to free WiFi, I'm quite certain every coffee house provides the service for paying customers. Furthermore I'm sure it's not equitable for anyone to expect to use that service for three hours after buying one cup of coffee.
Isn't this just common sense? Have today's generations been raised with a sense of entitlement that blinds them to what should be obvious?
I truly believe capitalism and it's belief in private property is the best social system man has yet to create. However, this laissez faire system won't work unless our society practices basic ethics and morals. Don't we all know this to be true or do we believe we have a right do die on a hill screaming that unlimited means unlimited?
Think about it. Do you want Starbucks to offer free WiFi if you buy a cup of coffee or do you want to press the free issue to the point that they finally have to pull the plug? |
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 ggma1126ggma1126Premium
join:2008-08-30
Claymont, DE | Isn't this just common sense? Have today's generations been raised with a sense of entitlement that blinds them to what should be obvious?
This is so true - today's generation thinks everyone and everything owes them |
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pnolte
join:1999-10-21
Chino, CA | reply to SilverSurfer1
said by SilverSurfer1:Burnt & stale is still burnt & stale. I don't care if it's called the Pope's Blend. Starschmucks sucks and I won't pay six bucks for a thimbleful of swill. I never paid more than two bucks for a cup of joe at Starbucks. If you paid six bucks they saw you coming. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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said by SilverSurfer1:Burnt & stale is still burnt & stale. I don't care if it's called the Pope's Blend. Starschmucks sucks and I won't pay six bucks for a thimbleful of swill. My last cup of Pope's Blend cost me $1.35.
It isn't quite as good as McBurntSwill (which costs $2), but the benefit of being apart from McPlayGround and thug moms is priceless. |
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Has there ever been a current generation that hasn't said that about the next generation? |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | No but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Society goes through cycles just like a capitalist economy. Fortunately society moves slower than economies and it requires a lot more generations before things get bad enough that they receive a correction.
The modern idea of society is over and we are now entering post-modernity. Some believe we will shift away from a "me" attitude to a "community" attitude. In moderation this could be good but it could also mean socialism and the thought police. I know health care is hot but it's a great example.
I believe it's broken and we need to do something but what happens when in the public interest, folks start getting the idea of outlawing salt or Big Mac hamburgers? |
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| said by rradina:I believe it's broken and we need to do something but what happens when in the public interest, folks start getting the idea of outlawing salt or Big Mac hamburgers? Several cities are already outlawing certain common food items.
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