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IPPlanMan
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Bandwidth Management in Relation to CC TV Offerings

said by K Patterson:

....open, unfettered access to all the sources of data, many of which have now and will increasingly in the future be competitive with Comcast's TV offerings.
Sounds familiar...
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Re: Bandwidth Management in Relation to CC TV Offerings

It is familiar. One model is that of the mob-controlled garbage industry on the East coast. If an ISP tries to control by restrictive agreements, constraints, manipulations, etc they will just end up with more regulation that makes them uncompetitive.

Cases in point - Iphone, Bing, Microsoft, Apple.

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Re: Bandwidth Management in Relation to CC TV Offerings

So, unless I am misunderstanding you, it seems that you agree with me that Comcast is protecting the turf of its TV offerings. So I ask, how is it able to do so?

It can:
1) Impose a cap on usage that keeps people from actually watching competitive services in any appreciable volume, essentially keeping Internet for Internet, and not for TV. However, this imposed 250 GB cap has nothing to do with managing real-time congestion as we learned from JLivingood earlier.

2) Impose network congestion management so that the "Internet TV watchers" don't saturate the system and negatively affect the "user experience for others".

In this case Comcast has chosen to do both.

Sometimes it doesn't matter if it's uncompetitive. Try getting a different garbage company.
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K Patterson
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Re: Bandwidth Management in Relation to CC TV Offerings

Please don't put words in my mouth. I did not say anything like that.

What I said was that until there is definitive legislation and regulation insuring a free and open Internet, the ISP's have to figure out on their own what is free and open.

Please don't quote the decision about p2p and reset packets. That was 3 to 2 with two vigorous dissents, and one of the commissioners weighed in last week on the same subject, and it wasn't on our side.

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Re: Bandwidth Management in Relation to CC TV Offerings

What about this is putting words in your mouth?

said by K Patterson:

....open, unfettered access to all the sources of data, many of which have now and will increasingly in the future be competitive with Comcast's TV offerings.
K Patterson
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Re: Bandwidth Management in Relation to CC TV Offerings

Out of context, and I'm out of this "discussion".

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