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obeythelaw
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am i missing something

If you really want to use Google Voice then you can use a Blackberry. It's not as if you can't use the Google voice application. No one is forcing someone to use an iPhone.

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Re: am i missing something

said by obeythelaw:

If you really want to use Google Voice then you can use a Blackberry. It's not as if you can't use the Google voice application. No one is forcing someone to use an iPhone.
Or you can use the Google Voice page currently using your iPhone. The app just makes it a slicker way of doing it. That's the thing that Apple/AT&T seem to forget.
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Re: am i missing something

They aren't prventing you from using GV's website on any phone. That would be a clear and indisputable FCC violation.

But AT&T/Apple are degrading a competitor's service (SMS) in order to sell their own. This inquiry by the FCC is aimed at SMS and the anti-competitive nature of degrading google's SMS experience it's just not as clear cut as blocking a website.

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Re: am i missing something

I understand that. I can go to the page on my iPhone and send an SMS from there. My point is that banning the app doesn't prevent the functionality.

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Re: am i missing something

Comcast throttling P2P doesn't prevent it but it does degrade it.
Bell Canada throttling competitor's network traffic doesn't prevent traffic but it does degrade it.
Forcing an iPhone user to goto a website and check for messages and to send a message instead of having an app that will check every 10 mins for you and send one for you without having to maintain 2 contact lists IS DEGRADING it.

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said by FLengineer:

Comcast throttling P2P doesn't prevent it but it does degrade it.
Bell Canada throttling competitor's network traffic doesn't prevent traffic but it does degrade it.
Forcing an iPhone user to goto a website and check for messages and to send a message instead of having an app that will check every 10 mins for you and send one for you without having to maintain 2 contact lists IS DEGRADING it.
While I think having the app is nice and should not have been booted, that is a stretch to say that is degradation.
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Re: am i missing something

I can pick up my phone, open contacts, tap my wife's name, and tap her cell number. I get my regular dialing screen that say Google Voice at the bottom. OR, I can have GV ask each time, so when I tep her cell number it asks me use Tmo or GV. Can you? It's exactly the same with SMS messages. If it's not that easy for you then they are degrading the service. They are making harder to use GV so their service is easier.

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I can pick up my phone, open contacts, tap my wife's name, and tap her cell number. I get my regular dialing screen that say Google Voice at the bottom. OR, I can have GV ask each time, so when I tep her cell number it asks me use Tmo or GV. Can you? It's exactly the same with SMS messages. If it's not that easy for you then they are degrading the service. They are making harder to use GV so their service is easier.
No, and you can't with the iPhone app before it was banned on the app store. The same one is offered by Cydia and you are not able to do it there, so that doesn't exactly prove your point.

From »www.seankovacs.com/

Version Differences: What are the differences between the App Store version and Cydia version? NOTHING, yet. I had to increment the build number on the Cydia version to account for some minor changes in the way jailbroken phones work. I will continue work on GV Mobile for Cydia - in order for you to get the latest updates, you WILL need to jailbreak your phone and load up Cydia. Please visit modmyi.com for guides and what not. It’s so easy, you grandma could do it!

Push: It will never happen now - thank Apple. Push uses Apple’s server/techonology to push notifications - without GV Mobile on the App Store, I can’t utilize their servers to push you notifications.

Palm Pre: I’ll give it a shot…we’ll see.

Enjoy gang. Remember, this is only my hobby, so bear with me.
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Re: am i missing something

ok well even though it's not as easy on the iPhone as it is on the G1/MT but it will improve and if it was allowed on the app store then Google might even make an app. The first GV app on the G1 was by a 3rd party developer and the program is much like the one on the iPhone. Point is the only reason to ban it was to protect SMS income by making it more difficult to use.

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said by FLengineer:

ok well even though it's not as easy on the iPhone as it is on the G1/MT but it will improve and if it was allowed on the app store then Google might even make an app. The first GV app on the G1 was by a 3rd party developer and the program is much like the one on the iPhone. Point is the only reason to ban it was to protect SMS income by making it more difficult to use.
Of course.
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obeythelaw,
Youre right. Noone is forcing iphone users to use an iphone but if youve already bought one and youre locked into a 2 year contract then it wouldnt make much sense to go by a blackberry to me.
The option to use GV has scared ATT half to death and im sure thats why it was rejected as an app. People should have the right to chose if they want to use it or not. Thats why i think it should be an approved app.
If it works, Is cheap, People will use it. If not, They wont.
ATT just doesnt want to give up the $$. I cant really say i fault them for that but in the end the better product is going to win reguardless.

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