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Re: Is It Really That Bad? said by Homer J:So because a tech is non-union he is fly by night. I don't think so, a union tech is no more qualified to perform his job than a non-union tech. Union workers may be good at taking their time, but it is not to do the job right. It's called laziness. Non-union techs are not any more pressure to get a certain amount of work done in a day then a union tech. If they can not do their job they need to look for another one. Being a member of a union does not make someone a better worker. All unions have done in years is protect lousy workers who need to be fired and pay them far more than they are worth. The irony here is you're criticizing someone for making a broad-based assumption about all non-union workers, and then you follow it up with your own broad-based assumption about "lazy" union workers.
How do you know unions over the years have only protected people who "need to be fired"?
Are you saying that workers who don't work 16 hour work days for a few dollars a day like in China "need to be fired"? Because that's what we had in America before unions.
And since when do you define what "they are worth"? Why is it OK for a corporation that never has to worry about debt or loss of livelihood from bankruptcy to rake in *billions* in profit every year, while subjecting their employees to draconian rules and regulations and stripping away their benefits? |
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 Homer JMmmm, Free Goo
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Springfield | So a guy who does a lousy job and is lazy should be paid $25+/hour to do a job that could be mastered in a few hours because he needs to make a living wage. He needs to do something to earn that living wage. Showing up at work everyday is not enough to earn a living.
If you look at my other posts you will see I say there are plenty of hard working union people out there. They likely do not need the union. Companies will want to hire them as they work hard and take pride in their work. There are others who are lazy and need the union to prtect their job. Without the union they would have a hard time finding work if at all as they would have to be judged on their own performance.
I looked and I did not mention working 16 hours a day for a few dollars a day like in China.
I do think people need to be paid a fair wage for the job they are performing. A guy working on a production line somewhere should not be being paid $25+/hr for that type of work. If he wishes to make more money he could learn a skill or go to college to get a better job if he wishes to make more money. They also should not be paid most of their salary for showing up at a closed K-mart because the union won a concession from a company.
A corporation should be able to decide what they think the work is worth. If they do not pay enough they will raise the amount they are offering to get the people they need. Corparations have to live with the fear of bankruptcy everyday. They must compete with other businesses for people and sales all the time.
Corporations are owned by share holders and they are responsible to them to make a profit and give the investor a return on their investment. So it should be ok for them to make money in a fair and ethical way. I
If they are subjecting their employees to such draconian conditions. The employees should quit and find employment elsewhere. If enough people do this, the company will change their rules to get the people they need.
A job and a certain amount of pay is not an entitlement as the union seems to tell people. People should have to earn what they get and if they want more they can work harder or get more education to get a better job. |
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