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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO

Wait, what?

Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA.
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It's a trick. Get an axe. - Ash


Telco_Tech

join:2009-05-18
Toledo, OH

said by footballdude:

Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA.
I honestly thought that this had to be a The Onion article when I first read the blurb. Who would greenlight such an intrusive and unrealistic idea?

- Tate

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Down with AT&T!


fatmanskinny
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join:2004-01-04
Wandering
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·Comcast Digital ..

said by Telco_Tech:

Who would greenlight such an intrusive and unrealistic idea?

- Tate

A piece of cold flesh called a company executive.
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Satan is always busy. He makes bad things look good and good things look bad! Watch that Devil.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

reply to footballdude

said by footballdude:

Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA.
Who would know? Say its the "remote sensor array", don't like it? don't get subscriber TV.

Nobody seems to protest that the cell phone company knows where you phone is 24/7 to a 2000 foot radius, GSM or CDMA. Latency from phone to antenna sector plus aim of the cell tower antenna sector. I'm not talking about triangulation or the AGPS chip. Just sitting on the paging channel will make you give away your position to a 4 intersection radius.


SrsBsns

join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK

reply to footballdude

said by footballdude:

Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA.
That's why there will be no mention of the word "camera" in the documentation about the receiver. Most customer wont have a clue it is there. I bet it will have a spiffy name like "intelligent user customization processor".


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to patcat88
And how many of us (using the term loosely)
have the following:

1. Cellphone(s) with built in camera
2. PC/Laptop with webcam



footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO

said by en102:

And how many of us (using the term loosely)
have the following:

1. Cellphone(s) with built in camera
2. PC/Laptop with webcam
The difference would be that you can decide when those cameras are on.
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It's a trick. Get an axe. - Ash


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

reply to footballdude

said by footballdude:

Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA.
People always seem to think that. Then, some clever marketroid comes up with a way to get people to WANT to have these kinds of erosions of privacy.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

reply to footballdude

said by footballdude:

said by en102:

And how many of us (using the term loosely)
have the following:

1. Cellphone(s) with built in camera
2. PC/Laptop with webcam
The difference would be that you can decide when those cameras are on.
You want to bet on that? So long as there's juice flowing through the phone, someone can hijack the mic or camera. The FBI has already admitted that they've used peoples turned-off cell phone's to gather audio surveillance.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

reply to SrsBsns

said by SrsBsns:

said by footballdude:

Do they seriously think anyone will go for this? Very, very, very few people would want a camera of any kind in their home, for any reason. Even if they get the technology to work, this is DOA.
That's why there will be no mention of the word "camera" in the documentation about the receiver. Most customer wont have a clue it is there. I bet it will have a spiffy name like "intelligent user customization processor".
Why *not* put it in the documentation. It's not like anyone's going to read it.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell


Thespis
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX

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reply to nixen

quote:
The FBI has already admitted that they've used peoples turned-off cell phone's to gather audio surveillance.
Got a link?
I'd love to know how a phone with no power can transmit audio. Maybe it only works if you're wearing a tinfoil hat...


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA

said by Thespis:

quote:
The FBI has already admitted that they've used peoples turned-off cell phone's to gather audio surveillance.
Got a link?
»news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html

There's others that go into more specific detail.

said by Thespis:

I'd love to know how a phone with no power can transmit audio. Maybe it only works if you're wearing a tinfoil hat...
If you've got a battery in your phone, there's juice flowing through it. Only way to fully turn off a mobile phone is to remove the battery.
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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
Reviews:
·Comcast

100% accurate.

I used to work on the systems that helped make this possible.

The phones can e hijacked to send data back on all networks. The same system that allows sms messaging also allows phone tracking.

Some companies even have this worked into their phone triangulation software to provide up to the minute traffic congestion reports to their subscribers.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"


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