Topic 'XBOX 360 using DMZ' in forum 'Networking' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22851820 en Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:37:55 EDT Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:37:55 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22875668
Whenever I go to log in, it says I can't connect and need to run a network test. I run the test, it comes back fine, and then I can log in.

Any thoughts as to how I can keep from having to run the test each time?
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Here is an example thread - »My Router and the Blizzard Downloader
Ah. That's not an 'Official Forum'. That's a DSLReports forum. The official forums are at »forums.worldofwarcraft.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22873864 Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:49:38 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22872785 said by Jahntassa:

I've never seen that advice given in the official forums.

Personally i'd rather have an XBOX DMZ'd than enable UPnP. While UPnP does help the masses get their networking stuff working easily, I have no desire to let anything on my network simply open ports at will without my knowledge.
Here is an example thread - »My Router and the Blizzard Downloader

The problem is the Blizzard updater not working well with many routers.

I'm not pro or con network UPnP, it is dangerous, I make certain its disabled on my PC's. It does a great job at handling multiple game consoles on a single IP address in my experience.
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The advise to DMZ or even to port forward the UPnP capable Xbox 360 reminds me of the advise others give on the WoW forum to put a PC in the DMZ and drop all firewalls.

It is just a bad idea that isn't necessary. If his firmware appropriately supports UPnP he should use it, if not, he may want to try a router which will work with UPnP correctly.
I've never seen that advice given in the official forums.

Personally i'd rather have an XBOX DMZ'd than enable UPnP. While UPnP does help the masses get their networking stuff working easily, I have no desire to let anything on my network simply open ports at will without my knowledge.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22872746 Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:58:24 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22872609 said by Napsterbater:

With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now.
The advise to DMZ or even to port forward the UPnP capable Xbox 360 reminds me of the advise others give on the WoW forum to put a PC in the DMZ and drop all firewalls.

It is just a bad idea that isn't necessary. If his firmware appropriately supports UPnP he should use it, if not, he may want to try a router which will work with UPnP correctly.
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If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! ;)

They are very harsh when it comes their warranties.

Leathal
I'm not aware of a single incident in which an Xbox 360 was hacked in any way shape or form in relation to having it open on the internet. Please provide at least a single link to back up your claim.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22871156 Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:02:01 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22870284 said by bryank:

I was more concerned about the XBOX allowing the traffic through to my network to be hacked because it was DMZ'd. With the latest Xbox Live Update, my chats have been solid with no disconnects.
Has never happened, to my knowledge.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22870284 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:35:08 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22868250 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22868250 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:09:21 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22866395 said by Leathal:

said by Napsterbater:

said by Leathal:

If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! ;)

They are very harsh when it comes their warranties.

Leathal
With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now.
Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! :o)

It's not like the X360 has a firewall of it's own and we all know from experience if you stick a windows box on the internet (except for ISA server) it will be hacked in a matter of seconds. :)

Leathal

It wouldn't mater if the 360 had no ports forwarded let alone DMZ, Xbox 360 Games use P2P networking for gaming so anyone can find anyone else IP with little work.
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Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! :o)He was harassing the guy, he didn't attack nor hack him. The guy was subsequently fired from his job for accessing customer information for a non-business use also.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22866293 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:29:40 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22866153 said by Leathal:

Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! :o)

It's not like the X360 has a firewall of it's own and we all know from experience if you stick a windows box on the internet (except for ISA server) it will be hacked in a matter of seconds. :)

Leathal

Still there was nothing 'hacked' in the XBOX. It wasn't used as part of a Botnet. It wasn't loaded with viruses. It wasn't made into a gateway that allowed access to the rest of the internal network.

If port forwarding isn't getting the job done, try using the DMZ and see if it helps. I've run my 360 DMZ'd since I got it two years ago and yet to have had any problems.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22866153 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:56:39 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22866042 said by Napsterbater:

said by Leathal:

If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! ;)

They are very harsh when it comes their warranties.

Leathal
With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now.
Well I know for sure you can attacked, there is an story posted on DSL Reports this year of a guy who worked for Comcast Teir2 support who was attacked by an X360 gammer while on Xbox Live; he managed to find the kids IP and looked him up at work before calling his father who freaked out and smashed his kids x360 into little bits! :o)

It's not like the X360 has a firewall of it's own and we all know from experience if you stick a windows box on the internet (except for ISA server) it will be hacked in a matter of seconds. :)

Leathal
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22866042 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:18:13 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22865926 said by Leathal:

If you want your x360 to be hacked put it on the DMZ, but keep in mind if you get hacked you complete void the warranty as Microsoft doesn't support stupid people! ;)

They are very harsh when it comes their warranties.

Leathal
With as many sights the tell you to DMZ and the amount of people that do it I would expect to have heard of a single case of where a 360 was hacked over its network port. Not saying it not possible just think their would have been news by now.
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They are very harsh when it comes their warranties.

Leathal]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22865912 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:26:12 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22855396 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22855396 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:03:00 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22855001 said by bryank:

Well my main concern is that I sometimes drop from chat party's and not sure why. Most of the time my gameplay is fine, but was just wondering if DMZ would help. Being the XBOX is not exactly like a computer I didn't know if DMZ is safe or not. Currently, I have port 88 and 3074 port forwarded to my XBOX.
It is a computer and DMZ would work the same.

Like Napsterbater said though, if it works, no need to change it.

According to portfoward.com, Xbox Live 360 requires you to forward the 53,80,88,3074 ports.

The dropping of chat connection may be due to your MTU setting, take it off the auto setting and change the entry of 1500 to 1492 and give this a try. It worked for some.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22855001 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:07:39 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852702
DD-WRT has a UPNP which allows auto port forwarding for the Xbox 360 as well as other things and can allow more then 1 Xbox 360 to have open NAT if it is ever needed.

But if that's not need no point in changing anything now.
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DMZ is just like leaving your front door open & unlocked. So, now does that answer your question?
Not really. DMZing an XBOX is like leaving a front door open to a room with a safe that has never been known to have been cracked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852509 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:29:09 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852229 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852229 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:31:13 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852075 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852075 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:56:32 EDT Re: XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852012 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22852012 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:45:49 EDT XBOX 360 using DMZ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22851820 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/XBOX-360-using-DMZ-22851820 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:08:48 EDT