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wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

Anyone ever heard of a company called "Navy Finance..."?

Note to Mods: if you feel it appropriate to merge this with my thread on Treasury Finance, Inc you should feel free to do so.

You may remember my »Anyone ever heard of a company called "Treasury Finance Inc" thread from a couple months ago...well...this one is in the same vein. I am looking for information on a company called "Navy Finance and Payroll, Inc". They have a CSR position posted at »www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/···ostID=US. A Google search does not turn any info on this company, thus I am wondering, as with "Treasury Finance, Inc" from my other thread, if this is a scam. Any info would be appreciated.
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fourboxers
Premium,Mod
join:2003-05-04
Toronto, ON

I think I'd worry about any company when you do a search on them only show up on job search sites.


wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

said by fourboxers:

I think I'd worry about any company when you do a search on them only show up on job search sites.
Bingo. That's why I am asking if anyone knows something I am unable to find online.
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K Patterson
Premium,MVM
join:2006-03-12
Columbus, OH
kudos:1

reply to wolfy339
This has to be a con. That kind of pay plus a company car for HS ed and no experience?

Likely one of two things -

Identity theft

Money laundering scam.


wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

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said by K Patterson:

This has to be a con. That kind of pay plus a company car for HS ed and no experience?
That's what initially made me suspicious. Additionally, when you google the the "Contact" for this position it comes up with two guys that are dead.
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Mr Neutron
Looks like I picked the wrong week to
Premium
join:2005-05-30
Gorham, ME

said by wolfy339:

Additionally, when you google the the "Contact" for this position it comes up with two guys that are dead.
Apparently, you haven't kept up with the times. Employing the dead is merely keeping up with the latest in "equal opportunity" practices.

I mean, just because someone doesn't move and/or register a pulse, that doesn't mean s/he can't make a valuable contribution to a given company. Stop being so narrow-minded!
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UsCanuk

@sbcglobal.net

Thank you, You just confirmed my own suspicions about this company and its job postings.
Good luck and thanks again!



logicwoman

@aol.com

reply to wolfy339
I sent my resume to Navy Finance and Payroll. It sound like a money laundering company. Here's what they replied back with:
For example:
$7,500 you will receive to your bank account from our client.
Then you go to the your bank, withdraw this money in cash and then go to nearest Money Gram or Western Union department and send it,
your salary in this example is 8 percents = $600, $6,900.00 you will transfer via western union or MG to our head office.
Since this moment the task of our company completed, we will send orders to both parts , sender and receiver.

Since then main service was transferring money worldwide and exchange the currency at the same time.
Within 8 years of hard work the company acquired international standing and managed to develop into a global financial holding
having the staff of 3000 people and representative offices in more than 30 countries.
Through these years we are keeping optimizing our services to the client's needs and update our technologies.
We transfer money and exchange currencies in over 20 money units.

I certainly don't want to give me my bank account to deposit money to. Yikes! Hope this helps.



the Grumble
Yep, I changed my name again -

join:2009-05-11

reply to wolfy339
Best bet is that when you never heard of the company don't do business with them.

"It sound like a money laundering company."
Looks like one to me too, Stay clear.


wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

Overall it sounds like, as with "Treasury Finance, Inc", the advice is to stay as far away as possible from this company as it is a money laundering type scam. I, for one, will certainly be heeding such advice. I do wonder (and it does sound like logicwoman did the smart thing here by not sending her bank account info) why people fall for things like this.
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Mr Neutron
Looks like I picked the wrong week to
Premium
join:2005-05-30
Gorham, ME

said by wolfy339:

I do wonder (and it does sound like logicwoman did the smart thing here by not sending her bank account info) why people fall for things like this.
Con games work largely because of greed. Everyone likes the thought of making money without having to do much to earn it.

Nowadays, unfortunately, there's also a measure of desperation for confidence tricksters to play off, too. If you haven't worked and/or eaten in a while, it's a lot easier to convince yourself not to ask too many questions when something like this comes up, even when the arrangement appears too good to be true.
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pcdebb
RIP dadkins
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Brandon, FL
kudos:4

reply to logicwoman

said by logicwoman :

I sent my resume to Navy Finance and Payroll. It sound like a money laundering company. Here's what they replied back with:
For example:
$7,500 you will receive to your bank account from our client.
Then you go to the your bank, withdraw this money in cash and then go to nearest Money Gram or Western Union department and send it,
your salary in this example is 8 percents = $600, $6,900.00 you will transfer via western union or MG to our head office.
Since this moment the task of our company completed, we will send orders to both parts , sender and receiver.

Since then main service was transferring money worldwide and exchange the currency at the same time.
Within 8 years of hard work the company acquired international standing and managed to develop into a global financial holding
having the staff of 3000 people and representative offices in more than 30 countries.
Through these years we are keeping optimizing our services to the client's needs and update our technologies.
We transfer money and exchange currencies in over 20 money units.

I certainly don't want to give me my bank account to deposit money to. Yikes! Hope this helps.
good grief. for a company boasting a huge staff in so many countries, they couldnt find a school that had a grammar class? I thought they were getting better at one point. that was pitiful
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SparkChaser
R.I.P. Doc
Premium
join:2000-06-06
Downingtown, PA
kudos:3

reply to wolfy339
Doing a search on "Navy Finance and Payroll, Inc." -job gives nothing. They are only referenced by sites like career builder.


wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

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reply to Mr Neutron

said by Mr Neutron:

said by wolfy339:

I do wonder (and it does sound like logicwoman did the smart thing here by not sending her bank account info) why people fall for things like this.
Con games work largely because of greed. Everyone likes the thought of making money without having to do much to earn it.

Nowadays, unfortunately, there's also a measure of desperation for confidence tricksters to play off, too. If you haven't worked and/or eaten in a while, it's a lot easier to convince yourself not to ask too many questions when something like this comes up, even when the arrangement appears too good to be true.
The scary part is that you are probably right.

Thanks everyone for your posts
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gitr done

@comcast.net

reply to wolfy339
There a scam man dont do biz with them they got my sister for $5000. They trasfer mo tour account and have u takeit out and send it to Ukraine or some shit. Only thing is the money they send isnt real moneyit fails after 72 hrs. My advice dont do anything with them


Fraud PI

join:2009-07-08
Saint Petersburg, FL

reply to wolfy339
Definitely a fraud. Also related to Remington Finance. These sites are being used to recruit money mules and to try and give some degree of credibility to their scams.



Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI

reply to logicwoman
Definite scam. The kicker is the Money Gram/Western Union. That is how they avoid the Postal fraud penalties.

What happens is the check they send you is bad, but by the time you find that out they already have the money and you now need to pay your bank the face value plus penalties.
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wolfy339

join:2005-04-30
Edmonds, WA

1 edit

said by Kilroy:

Definite scam. The kicker is the Money Gram/Western Union. That is how they avoid the Postal fraud penalties.

What happens is the check they send you is bad, but by the time you find that out they already have the money and you now need to pay your bank the face value plus penalties.
I know this one, have heard stories on the news of people who got suckered in by companies like the one I have posted about in this thread. Fortunately, this is one of the oldest scams in the book (and thus should be well known/understood by now), unfortunately many people still get suckered into scams like this.

said by Fraud PI:

Definitely a fraud. Also related to Remington Finance. These sites are being used to recruit money mules and to try and give some degree of credibility to their scams.
Good info

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Mr Neutron
Looks like I picked the wrong week to
Premium
join:2005-05-30
Gorham, ME

reply to Kilroy

said by Kilroy:

Definite scam. The kicker is the Money Gram/Western Union. That is how they avoid the Postal fraud penalties.
Doesn't that open them up to wire fraud, instead? Or maybe this is a calculated risk on their part, seeing as how the criminal penalties for wire fraud are less severe (?) than those for mail fraud?
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Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI

said by Mr Neutron:

said by Kilroy:

Definite scam. The kicker is the Money Gram/Western Union. That is how they avoid the Postal fraud penalties.
Doesn't that open them up to wire fraud, instead? Or maybe this is a calculated risk on their part, seeing as how the criminal penalties for wire fraud are less severe (?) than those for mail fraud?
Yes, but postal penalties are much more severe. The wire fraud, I believe, are a slap on the wrist and pay a fine much less than what you scammed.
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