 MaccawolfPremium
join:2001-02-20
Hillsdale, NJ
kudos:6 | Too late Didn't quite a few people, myself included, drop their landline for cell only service, and don't we pay a monthly charge for 911 access?
The answer to both those questions is YES.
Hypothetically, if someone I knows, dies because I can't get through to 911, AT&T will have a NICE lawsuit on their hands. And I'm NOT one of those who sues everything in sight.
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 screavic4Premium
join:2006-08-11
Paron, AR
kudos:1 | We pay 911 access charge on our cell, I think it is a state thing though. |
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MaccawolfPremium
join:2001-02-20
Hillsdale, NJ
kudos:6 | I thought it was a charge imposed by ALL the cellular carriers.....
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screavic4Premium
join:2006-08-11
Paron, AR
kudos:1 | It could be, I'm not certain, I quit paying attention to it cause I have always paid it and I have used it before so it's paid for itself.
I think there is a federal 911 service charge I've been trying to look it up but I'm not having very much luck. I think if they are registered as a CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier) you have to pay it
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
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For example, I live near a county line and if my neighborhood calls 911, the call comes form the tower in the other county, in which they must residential our county, adding time and confusion, where if I pick up my landline, it goes to the right department. Many people in my neighborhood have found this out.
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said by Maccawolf:Didn't quite a few people, myself included, drop their landline for cell only service, and don't we pay a monthly charge for 911 access? The answer to both those questions is YES. Hypothetically, if someone I knows, dies because I can't get through to 911, AT&T will have a NICE lawsuit on their hands. And I'm NOT one of those who sues everything in sight. True that. If I needed to call 911, and couldn't get through, I would sue AT&T for so much money I would use their $20 bills it to light my $100 cigars.
I really believe though if you didn't want the ability to call 911 you could tell them to disable the feature and drop the charge. But, if you are really in need of an extra $12/year, I don't think you should buy a cell phone in the first place! |
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| said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by Maccawolf:Didn't quite a few people, myself included, drop their landline for cell only service, and don't we pay a monthly charge for 911 access? The answer to both those questions is YES. Hypothetically, if someone I knows, dies because I can't get through to 911, AT&T will have a NICE lawsuit on their hands. And I'm NOT one of those who sues everything in sight. True that. If I needed to call 911, and couldn't get through, I would sue AT&T for so much money I would use their $20 bills it to light my $100 cigars. You're both living in a dream world if you think that you will see some kind of huge payoff for not being able to reach nine one one from your mobile phone. You can file suit -but one of your causes of action better include a death- and secondly, you better have airtight evidence that it was either (1) Not your phone's malfunction that caused the inability to reach nine one one and/or (2) the network was faulty.
In either scenario, I hope you have pockets as deep as the carrier you think you're going to sue because you will need it to pay your attorney's retainer and fees. If not, then you're going to have to wake up and quit dreaming about lighting a cigar with $100.00 bills. |
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YES you are required to pay 911 on cellular and landline services and many VoIP services. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to Maccawolf
I have to agree. If we are paying monthly for 911 service then it should work at least as well as a landline, regardless of the technological hurdles involved. Overcome them.
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 SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
I don't think AT&T is afraid of being sued by someone that writes "true that" and smokes cigars. |
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said by SilverSurfer1:said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by Maccawolf:Didn't quite a few people, myself included, drop their landline for cell only service, and don't we pay a monthly charge for 911 access? The answer to both those questions is YES. Hypothetically, if someone I knows, dies because I can't get through to 911, AT&T will have a NICE lawsuit on their hands. And I'm NOT one of those who sues everything in sight. True that. If I needed to call 911, and couldn't get through, I would sue AT&T for so much money I would use their $20 bills it to light my $100 cigars. You're both living in a dream world if you think that you will see some kind of huge payoff for not being able to reach nine one one from your mobile phone. You can file suit -but one of your causes of action better include a death- and secondly, you better have airtight evidence that it was either (1) Not your phone's malfunction that caused the inability to reach nine one one and/or (2) the network was faulty. In either scenario, I hope you have pockets as deep as the carrier you think you're going to sue because you will need it to pay your attorney's retainer and fees. If not, then you're going to have to wake up and quit dreaming about lighting a cigar with $100.00 bills. Uhh, then why do you pay an extra fee to use 911? Afaik, 911 calls are NOT routed over the normal GSM network, rather through CDMA which allows better tracking for your position. And most providers will allow a 911 call to go through on a non activated phone, which logically can't go through the normal network because it isn't authorized to make/receive calls, data, or text.
You are making a tone that makes me think you don't think its that reliable, if that is the case, then why don't *you* have it disabled on your phone?
The case is fairly easy to show -
- Show that a call to 911 was placed during the time of the emergency and it should show a duration of 0 seconds if they call was never connected.
- Show that you can make and receive calls now.
I don't understand what other evidence you need? |
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said by SLD:I don't think AT&T is afraid of being sued by someone that writes "true that" and smokes cigars. If you write perfect, proper English in any of the following:
+ Emails
+ Text messages
+ IMs
You:
+ Are an alien
+ Are a robot
+ Have no friends
No one on planet Earth, speaks or writes perfect English every day of their lives since language rules are really dictated by the society (which change daily) and everyone will have their own slang or way of saying things.
But, we are getting off topic I suppose. |
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SLDPremium
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San Francisco, CA | Nice response, I'm sure that statement is true in your circles; but it isn't true in mine.
Have a nice day! |
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:Uhh, then why do you pay an extra fee to use 911? Afaik, 911 calls are NOT routed over the normal GSM network, rather through CDMA which allows better tracking for your position. And most providers will allow a 911 call to go through on a non activated phone, which logically can't go through the normal network because it isn't authorized to make/receive calls, data, or text. You are making a tone that makes me think you don't think its that reliable, if that is the case, then why don't *you* have it disabled on your phone? The case is fairly easy to show - - Show that a call to 911 was placed during the time of the emergency and it should show a duration of 0 seconds if they call was never connected. - Show that you can make and receive calls now. I don't understand what other evidence you need? Nope. If a GSM customer calls 911 it will use the GSM network to route the 911 call, it will be less reliable for locating though because GSM based networks including W-CDMA 3GSM network ONLY use Triangulation for location, unless the 3G network and handset support A-GPS E911 which I am not sure T-Mobile or AT&T support that. Real CDMA1x2000 based networks like Verizon and Sprint use AFLT Triangulation and A-GPS for location.
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 bionicRodFunkier than a mohair disco ball.Premium
join:2009-07-06
united state
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Sorry, but you failed. Nice response is a sentence all by itself. So is the sentence that begins with "I'm sure...". Therefore you should not separate the two with a comma but with either a period or a semicolon. Similarly, the semicolon later on is used incorrectly as well. THAT is where you would correctly use a comma.  |
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said by Maccawolf:Didn't quite a few people, myself included, drop their landline for cell only service, and don't we pay a monthly charge for 911 access? The answer to both those questions is YES. Hypothetically, if someone I knows, dies because I can't get through to 911, AT&T will have a NICE lawsuit on their hands. And I'm NOT one of those who sues everything in sight. ========================================
1st off all, theres NOTHING WRONG with or any problems dialing & talking to 911-1st time I ever had to call them today from outside on a cell phone
WE ARE paying for 911 at last those of us with land lines ( I hav both)
Surcharges and Other Fees
1-05 911 Service Fee .50
1-06 911 Equalization Surcharge .03
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Cell phone service
and your paying for it on your AT&T CELL PHONE BILL
TOTAL CREDITS, ADJUSTMENTS & OTHER CHARGES $3.23
Government Fees & Taxes
9-1-1 Service Fee 0.50
TX State Sales Tax 2.70
City Sales Tax 0.43
TOTAL GOVERNMENT FEES & TAXES $3.63
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA
1 edit | reply to bionicRod
It is irrelevant. The comment was regarding language, not punctuation.
[Was that better?]
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911 worked till VZ took over Alltel. |
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said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:said by SLD:I don't think AT&T is afraid of being sued by someone that writes "true that" and smokes cigars. If you write perfect, proper English in any of the following: + Emails + Text messages + IMs You: + Are an alien + Are a robot + Have no friends No one on planet Earth, speaks or writes perfect English every day of their lives since language rules are really dictated by the society (which change daily) and everyone will have their own slang or way of saying things. But, we are getting off topic I suppose. said by SLD:It is irrelevant. The comment was regarding language, not punctuation. [Was that better?] Punctuation IS a part of language. The Spanish language uses an upside question mark for questions. German language uses 2 funny dots at the top of some of their letters to show how a word should be pronounced.
So, therefore, in your last statement you proved that even you don't write perfect English. So, why criticize other people how they talk, or I guess in this case, type? You understood what I meant, the language I used was a common slang in the English language. I hope outside of this forum you don't laugh at people because they can't speak English well or have an accent...or speak slang. |
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said by iLive4Fusion:said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:Uhh, then why do you pay an extra fee to use 911? Afaik, 911 calls are NOT routed over the normal GSM network, rather through CDMA which allows better tracking for your position. And most providers will allow a 911 call to go through on a non activated phone, which logically can't go through the normal network because it isn't authorized to make/receive calls, data, or text. You are making a tone that makes me think you don't think its that reliable, if that is the case, then why don't *you* have it disabled on your phone? The case is fairly easy to show - - Show that a call to 911 was placed during the time of the emergency and it should show a duration of 0 seconds if they call was never connected. - Show that you can make and receive calls now. I don't understand what other evidence you need? Nope. If a GSM customer calls 911 it will use the GSM network to route the 911 call, it will be less reliable for locating though because GSM based networks including W-CDMA 3GSM network ONLY use Triangulation for location, unless the 3G network and handset support A-GPS E911 which I am not sure T-Mobile or AT&T support that. Real CDMA1x2000 based networks like Verizon and Sprint use AFLT Triangulation and A-GPS for location. Not that I am calling you a lier, but can you post a source so I can read more up on it?
I could have sworn that when you dial 911 it does it over a different network and not treat it like a normal voice call. |
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